#musicbrainz

yllona - you just woke me up by yelling MOOSE so loudly :)

that's 'cuz i was eating elk jerky -- very tasty, and close enough to yell out loud :)

muz will be very unhappy that you are eating a moose (elk)

almost as bad as puppy eating

ah, well but maybe moose and elk are a different species?

very probably

Shepard` is now known as Shepard

hi shep

very quiet on here tonight - everybody asleep in Europe and out for the evening in the US and still at work in Australia

eek, moose & elk are the same... uh, i'm in trouble

I promise not to tell him

Nah, we just had some interesting conversations about geeky stuff a little while ago

I stay well away from geeky stuff - anyway you cannot get a word in edgeways when deadchip is on - entertaining though he is

...what am I saying, everything is geeky in a channel about a metadata database and related software =D

joan: i gotta say the elk jerky was mighty tasty tho.

eating moose is not at all geeky

I suppose so

Doesn't have much to do with Musicbrainz, but that's fine I guess =D

that's why, at times, we come on here - to get away from the editing we have been doing for the last three hours - light entertainment

dholmes: nope, other than to tease mustaqila, moose has absolutely nothing to do with MusicBrainz -- and never will.

but it's fun though yllona - pity muz isn't here

sadly, it looks like mustaquila went to sleep without logging off, i'll have to save at least one piece of jerky for another day ;)

rpedro__ is now known as rpedro

"anyway you cannot get a word in edgeways when deadchip is on" <-- what does this mean?

relating to the recent issue with nightgroove/mo?

well seriously i don't want to discuss this

what recent issue with nightgroove?

ok then nvm

I don't think that's what they meant =D

but what did you mean with thaT?

sorry i'm currently totally out-confused by the people in #bmp

i don't think i can think very well right nwo about this discussion here

It means you keep talking about things they don't understand and thus they can't talk

but i'd still like to know what this meant

ok

Because they channel is already full of talking

I was just wondering if you write down every thought you have

Joan_W: well not everything

Joan_W: actually a lot of it not

which i regret later on

LOL

since i had some idea and then forget it

but the ideas i have before falling asleep, i always remember those

hold on - don't write anything for a minute

ah you mean write down into the IRC channel

yeah

be quiet for a minute

i think it's a trait of mine to just type down/out everything i type

ok

i think*

(sorry, it was only a correction)

LOL

shush

you're treating me like a kid!

i can't take this

Hm

of the last 32 lines written - three were from me - two were dhomes and the rest were yours - that's what I meant by writing down every thought

well yeah i am just like that i guess

It seems whenever my mods expire with no votes except an abstain, the vote that eventually decides it always ends up being cast by a newbie

i have ADD if that helps understandin git

understanding it*

but i guess a lot of people have it anyway

so does mo

lol

yeah ok then it's understandable how he behaves

so if you are able to bear mo's behaviour

i can't see how you can't bear mine

except for that he's your friend and i'm not or something

no - I have known him since January

but, yes, he is a friend because I have got to know him.

You don't give us a chance to really get to know you because you don't join in any of our off topic conversations

yeah well let's say, and you can judge me on that in whatever way you want that, you can objectively judge my behaviour and tell me or ask me to do or not to do something

but i will not accept judgements based/influenced by emotional attachement

no emotional attachment - that I can guarantee you

aka just because you know mo better and feel closer to him you tolerate his behaviour more <-- not a valid point for me

Joan_W: ^^^

i didn't mean ROMANTIC emotional attachment

but you said he's your friend and that obviously is emotional attachment

no - you misunderstand me - I am just saying give us a chance to get to know you on a different level to what dholmes calls the "geeky" level

in a 50:50 situation, you're more likely to defend mo than me

(my best guess as that'd be rather normal for a human)

so this already rules these kinds of things out

no - I do not get involved in arguments if I can possibly help it

well what do you mean by this "geeky" level anyway :

:|

i don't get it

how am i especially geeky?

ok i talk more about tech stuff

I don't know - ask dholmes - he said you had been having geeky conversations that I had missed

rather than doing normal conversations

but i guess that's also due to the fact that

*drummmmrollllll*

(and here comes the major part of what i meant with friend vs. no friend)

that no one asks me when i join the channel

"hey deadchip, how is it?"

"hi deadchip, how are you?"

I wouldn't read too much into that

coz no one asks that, i am unlikely to start or scratch the walls of the hole i'm in to start one myself

no no i'm not taking it personal

do you ever ask - usually when I log on I say good evening or make some such comment

that's not my point dholmes

the point is just that if no one asks me how i am

then i will never reply how i am

and a "normal" ungeek conversation will never take place

Joan_W: yeah i ask people but with some i don't as i think they don't really like me

allright i'll try

but

give yourself a chance to be liked

to come back to the "mo incident" of recent

as a person and not just as a techie

which scared me off of talking in here except for tech stuff

to sum it up it was this:

well then - talk to me to start with

Joan_W: mo mentioned that he's got to go regularily to a hopsital

Joan_W: now it so happens that i sometimes have to do that too

Joan_W: i have a heart condition because of which i have to visit the hospital regularily

Joan_W: then i asked mo why he's got to go there and i had NO IDEA it has to do something with his mom

-no- idea

i was totally innocent

I am sorry to hear that - I trust the doctors keep it well under control

Joan_W: but obivously, this is a personal matter for him

Joan_W: so he won't discuss this with everyone

which i totally understand

Joan_W: but the outcome was that he just completely ignored me

back in a minute

don't go away

Joan_W: and while in a way this is understandable (he didn't want to talk about it with me and one way to not do that is to say nothing at all, although especially when having ADD, and especially when TWO people having ADD get together, the best way is clear communication, so he'd have been better off saying "sorry but this is a private matter")

Joan_W: so, while this is understandable, and from his POV was ok, it ALSO undeniably led to frustration on my side

because i felt simply completely ignored

Joan_W: then mudcrow explained me that of course it's mo's business etc, and it's none of my concern etc

Joan_W: which is _ALL_ _really_ true

Joan_W: but it doesn't change the fact that i feel ignored if i don't get a response at all

I can understand that - but as you would like people to make allowances for your ADD, now that you know mo has the same problem, make allowances as we all do.

Joan_W: there is no 1 side of the situation

Joan_W: the situation is two fold and always ill be: he didn't reply because he felt he doesn't want to, and i feel ignored because i receive no reply

both points stand along side each other and are just as valid

I think it is best to forget that particular incident - I'm sure mo has. Start afresh

Joan_W: and since then i'm rather scared to ask anyone anything

yeah i'll try

well yeah now that i know that he has too i'll try to do my best as i know how problematic i can be for people

mo, nikki, nyght and I all get along particularly well because we all love cats. Silly thing to bond people together isn't it.

Beats computers.

definitely