#musicbrainz

nightgroove: Because not all browsers might send ä as %C3%A4.

my opera does it

also my ie

so?

dmp_panda: Look at http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=40174 and judge.

uughh

o_O

but it shows as ä jo?!

nightgroove: It does. Because of MB's parser.

I only have until 8:40

so I'm late late late

nightgroove: As I said, it's been discussed somewhere, and consensus was to use URL encoded URIs.

bblater in the day guys

(I was of the oppinion to use ä instead of %C3%A4 initially as well.)

(Which will also be seen from some of my earlier WP article linkings.)

cya nightgroove !

bonne journée le chat ;)

Schika: I can't think about the difference between "compose" and "write". To me, it looks the same... and I guess I'll have a lot of difficulties to use one or the other for stuff like free-jazz... how would you phrase the difference?

maybe someone wrote the notes and such - and some other composed the instrumentation

mmmm... I guess I need a wikipedia reading session...

or another idea the song was original written by artist a (written by) and artist B made a "cover" of it with other instruments (composed by)?

another idea... artist a wrote the song and sold it to artist b, who finaly made the song

nasty artists :P

anyhow, IMO we lack an essential concept in MB: compositions (or tunes), which really are not the same thing as tracks...

I'm struggling with Jazz compositions been played hundred of times...

we sure don't want a composer to compose a tune hundred of times, do we?

not to mention "cover" is deeply inadequate to depict the fact somebody do interpret a (jazz) composition...

you mean that we should set the AR one time and this AR apply for all tracks with the same name and artist?

Okay. The shower thing.

I don't know... but take the example of Take the "A" Train, composed by Ellington, and played by a huge number of different artists...

I'll be back in the eve!

Take care, and don't miss me ((too) much)! :D

ciao Freso

do we really want each track be composed by Ellington? (~+400 hundred)

or do we really want the very first "Take the..." to be "covered" 400 hundred times?

so yes, I really wish we add "entities" for compositions.

and we may link tracks to the corresponding composition

IMO, this is what we already (sometime) do when we use the first appearance of the tune as a track, and when we use covers AR to it, but it's awkward... and prone to errors... how do we know what is the very first recorded appearance of old tunes?

that's random thoughts... I'm not sure this is clear... but I've seen alarming edits already that makes me think we might end up with a nice mess of anarchic and multiple composed by / covered by....

people want "composed by" for all the tracks of their album. Nice thing. But they don't want to check/verify ASCAP. And they don't mind if we end-up with artist cluttered with hundreds of "identical" AR "composed by"...

I see what you mean ...

*sigh*

:p

;)

When one thinks there are "alarming" edits, one sure needs to take a break from MB :D

That said... /me goes back tidying the horribly messed Edith Piaf ;)

AMurderofCrows is now known as mudcrow

!away: bah! skole!

Anybody think they could help me get picard working on Linux?

I'm using the musicbrainz overlay in Gentoo, so I have all the deps

I add it work (debian sid)

but whenever I go to start it, I get a traceback ending in: ImportError: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_gizmos-2.6.so.0: symbol _ZNK11wxClassInfo8IsKindOfEPKS_, version WXU_2.6 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 with link time reference

mmm...

I've tried re-emerging wxGTK (the package that owns that file), even changing some of the use flags, no dice :/

what version of wxgtk2 is that exactly?

2.6.3.2

kay... who is maintaining tge Gentoo overlay? I guess he would be of more use than me :/

s/tge/the

I... don't remember their name. I think I can find it though

juffo?

name found familiar?

no :(

but intgr more :)

I don't know if he comes on irc though

I've seen him around

I guess he's your best shot. Just curious: do you use a stable profile?

reasonably

lol

I don't rice out my gentoo, if that's what you're asking :-)

2006.1/x86, -O2 -pipe

I don't throw you the stone, going unstable/experimental may be fun for breakfast ;)

sorry I can't help you more :/

Shepard` is now known as Shepard

thanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkyard_%28album%29 I've never seen so much bollocks

hi mud ;)

wrong studio, wrong date, wrong producer, wrong info on tracy pew and wrong tracklisting

hi panda

"never mind the bollocks..." :D

the first sentence is correct, none of the others are...

lol - sometimes, I don't even understand why wikipedia persist on maintaining their own data rather than sourcing it from MB...

I love this "Richard Mazda has claimed that his dedication and perseverance played a major role in the album's sound, and it's completion" he engineered two tracks, hardly a major role :)

VxJasonxV: re: the gentoo problem - http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/1978

I should get intgr to modify the ebuild to make wxpython depend on wxGTK so that it builds in the right order

thanks luks

i know this is probably a stupid question here :)

but does somebody here have a lot of MB untagged files?

preferable with very ugly tags

yes

no ugly tags though :)

ahhh, yes I have old mpc files

i need some test cases

ok. more precisely?

if i send you a little app to extract the tags, would you be willing to run it on them?

and then send me the result

yes. a linux app.

I don't have a windows at hand :/

ok, i'll hack up some script

kay

thanks

n.p

loool: look at the label line http://www.amazon.fr/Genius-Keyboards-Art-Tatum... (this is released by the label Giants of Jazz,) - I guess amz.fr people do abuse some substance

about half of my archive is mb tagged, the other half is a mess

Dump them all on Picard? It won't go nuts, I promise! ;)

HA

makes me think I may even have files that make picard crash :p

i'm on linux

FauxFaux: that's exactly what i'm working on :)

you can put them all to picard and let it do it's job

it will be a little more automated than simply puid lookups

Fedora Core 3

luks: I'm up for testing, btw

^^ me too :P

xxxx is now known as deadchip

me three

and me four

i one a sandbox

you dem man who speak wit da sensi

one day i'll be able to sort out my downloads folders with either picard or bmp

stuff like finding duplicates requires 2 pass

i eight a sandbox

i mean now speaking all the legal issues of downloading aside, let's just say it happened

and you have 4 duplicates of

lol BrainzBot

BrianG*

and you have 4 dupes of a file, with a different filename, and slightly different tags

then it requires a first-pass-run to find the fingerprint, retag them identically

and then a 2nd pass to remove all the duplicates

stuff like that is what i'm going to do coz i have dem dupliceeats too much, oh jah

i have probably 20 times "Karen Ramirez - Looking For Love}|

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