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      • luks
        okay, here is the script get the tags - http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/extract_tags.t…

        • 2006-09-08 25143, 2006

      • luks
        the tag reading lib it uses included in the tarball, so you don't have to install anything

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      • luks
        could you please run it on some music with crappy tags and then send me tags.csv?

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      • FauxFaux
        I would if I could get to my desktop, damn internet. :/

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      • deadchip
        luks: yeah i'm doing it

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      • deadchip
        sec

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      • mustaqila
        Hmmmm, there appears to be a large number of kittens running through mine and my neighbours back garden, and they're all mewing rather loudly

        • 2006-09-08 25146, 2006

      • deadchip
        luks: http://futurepast.free.fr/badtags.zip

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      • deadchip
        luks: has 3 .csv files from 3 different folders with mostly crap tags

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      • deadchip
        like, 1000 files or so

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      • luks
        thanks!

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      • deadchip
        sure :D

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      • BrianG
        does anyone else have to export JAVA_HOME=/usr before running MIP Mixer

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      • BrianG
        when did mixer 1.6 get released?

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      • luks
        BrianG: add the "export JAVA_HOME=/usr" line to ~/.gnomerc

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      • luks
        or maybe system-wide to /etc/profile

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      • BrianG
        i don't have a ~/.gnomerc , should i just create it with that one line?

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      • luks
        yes

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      • BrianG
        thanks

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      • deadchip
        luks: btw what kind of badly tagged do you need, though?

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      • deadchip
        this waas all from my downloads folders

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      • deadchip
        most of the rest of my music is already tagged using MB, but some isn't

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      • deadchip
        i can run it trough that again

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      • luks
        any kind :)

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      • deadchip
        heh ok

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      • luks
        i want them to testing the automatic tagging in picard

        • 2006-09-08 25109, 2006

      • deadchip
        i'll run it trough some more folders

        • 2006-09-08 25139, 2006

      • luks
        egg, -ing

        • 2006-09-08 25110, 2006

      • luks
        blah

        • 2006-09-08 25135, 2006

      • luks
        basically i need the tags only to fine-tune the coeficients, thresholds, etc.

        • 2006-09-08 25131, 2006

      • deadchip
        ah

        • 2006-09-08 25134, 2006

      • deadchip
        hmm

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      • deadchip
        luks: do you perform lexical analysis on the tags contents?

        • 2006-09-08 25119, 2006

      • luks
        not yet

        • 2006-09-08 25121, 2006

      • deadchip
        like pattern matching/string matching?

        • 2006-09-08 25105, 2006

      • luks
        currently it uses only MB lucene lookups + lots of levenshtein distances calculation

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      • FauxFaux was contemplating writing a "bad tag recogniser" baesd on something like ID3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3_algorithm), would be nice to see what you come up with, luks.

        • 2006-09-08 25131, 2006

      • deadchip
        hmm

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      • deadchip
        well in BMP, i'm going to implement that duplicate scanner certainly i think

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      • deadchip
        hum levenshtein distances don't really account for various languages?

        • 2006-09-08 25103, 2006

      • deadchip
        ok that's wrongly put

        • 2006-09-08 25104, 2006

      • luks
        nope

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      • deadchip
        but, they will only get so far either

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      • FauxFaux
        A duplicate checker would be great, too. (and a windows port ;p)

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      • deadchip
        let's say you compare a certain tag of one file with one from another, and it's a different language

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      • deadchip
        and for some reason the word is correct in one language, and the other word as well in another

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      • deadchip
        then there would be a LD > 0, but they would be still actually distinct and valid

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: well i'll implement it _in_ BMP, not sure how externalizable it'll be

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      • luks
        well, in badly tagged files you can usually expect romanized titles

        • 2006-09-08 25130, 2006

      • luks
        and for most of scripts it's quite easy to write a simple transliterator

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: i'll try to make it a library, but i have no idea of win32 programming

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      • FauxFaux
        deadchip: I meant a windows port /of/ bmp. :)

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: ah haha

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: yeah we're working on that ... slow :P

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: i've dropped the nonsense winamp2 interface btw now

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: looks more like this now:

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      • deadchip
        http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/logos/logo-20.p…

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      • deadchip
        but i have a fun time implementing a lastfm player correctly with gstreamer

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      • Schika
        luks I've submitted "tags.csv" via gmail to you

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      • luks
        thanks

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      • deadchip
        because they use non-existant http status codes like 667 for "no more content for this station"

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      • FauxFaux
        Super happy fun proxy time?

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: well more like neonhttpsrc (it's a gstreamer element that uses libneon for the http streaming) doesn't recongize those status codes

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      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: so i basically forked it, and put a derived version into BMP itself

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      • chefkoch joined the channel

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      • chefkoch
        chefkoch is now known as chefkoch_Zzz

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      • deadchip
        which i'm using for the lastfm stream

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      • chefkoch_Zzz
        chefkoch_Zzz is now known as chefkoch

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      • deadchip
        don't drink and drive, but join+sleep

        • 2006-09-08 25131, 2006

      • deadchip
        ._.

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      • VxJasonxV
        roffle

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      • chefkoch
        :D

        • 2006-09-08 25107, 2006

      • deadchip
        :)

        • 2006-09-08 25110, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        luks, random mention: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/1978 <-- I had to do the reverse O_o

        • 2006-09-08 25123, 2006

      • luks
        heh

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      • luks
        i had gentoo installed once, but i'm pretty sure i won't do it anymore :)

        • 2006-09-08 25120, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        luks: quick question about the extract tags py script

        • 2006-09-08 25131, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        1) does it do recursive? or do I need to run it specifically against one folder?

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      • luks
        yes, it's recursive

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      • VxJasonxV
        ideally, I just wanna run it against my whole collection here at work (not that big)

        • 2006-09-08 25154, 2006

      • deadchip
        gentoo is developer's nightmare

        • 2006-09-08 25159, 2006

      • deadchip
        i don't get how developers can run gentoo

        • 2006-09-08 25118, 2006

      • deadchip
        i really prefer and have to often enough compile my own software which takes long enough since it's C++

        • 2006-09-08 25129, 2006

      • deadchip
        rather than constantly compile other people's software

        • 2006-09-08 25132, 2006

      • deadchip
        x_x

        • 2006-09-08 25111, 2006

      • deadchip
        i really need to finally implement collections

        • 2006-09-08 25125, 2006

      • deadchip
        so i can group files that are otherwise unrelated together as an entity inside the player

        • 2006-09-08 25157, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        You mean, like, playlists?

        • 2006-09-08 25112, 2006

      • deadchip
        i think (and hope) i can generalize albums out as specific case of a collection

        • 2006-09-08 25127, 2006

      • deadchip
        FauxFaux: well, yeah, sort of like playlists, but dynamically adapting

        • 2006-09-08 25133, 2006

      • rpedro has quit

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      • deadchip
        it's not an outrageous invention either but i just need to finally add it

        • 2006-09-08 25137, 2006

      • deadchip
        you can have a number of match attributes, and a number of sort attributes

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      • deadchip
        static playlists work for that mostly but they don't accomodate for stuff like when you rename the file

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      • deadchip
        (BMP tracks files independent of the name)

        • 2006-09-08 25142, 2006

      • deadchip
        this "static" matching of data everywhere really has come to an end

        • 2006-09-08 25104, 2006

      • deadchip
        when built with HAL, BMP doesn't even store full paths for files anymore, but only the volume UUID and the volume roor relative path

        • 2006-09-08 25114, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        wheee, 2868 files extract_tags is working on

        • 2006-09-08 25125, 2006

      • deadchip
        i've extended our XSPF writer to write application-specific XML for each <track/> item which stores the volume UDI and the relative path into it as well

        • 2006-09-08 25153, 2006

      • deadchip
        so for example if you make a playlist from your portable device or external usb storage or whatever, you can still load it indepdendtly of where it gets mounted as a UNIX mountpoint

        • 2006-09-08 25127, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        luks, would you prefer I send it over a particular medium?

        • 2006-09-08 25151, 2006

      • deadchip
        pigeons

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      • rpedro joined the channel

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      • luks
        :)

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      • BrianG
        smoke signal

        • 2006-09-08 25111, 2006

      • luks
        email lalinsky @ gmail, or if you can upload it somewhere

        • 2006-09-08 25121, 2006

      • deadchip
        :|

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      • deadchip
        :D

        • 2006-09-08 25145, 2006

      • deadchip
        BrianG: LOL

        • 2006-09-08 25119, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        you're free to wget http://vxjasonxv.com/tags.csv

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      • VxJasonxV
        O_o

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      • VxJasonxV
        wtfff

        • 2006-09-08 25158, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        who is 85.216.219.155 ?

        • 2006-09-08 25106, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        luks, do you need me to rename the file? :P

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      • luks
        sorry :)

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      • VxJasonxV
        heh

        • 2006-09-08 25129, 2006

      • luks
        i forgot how to use wget

        • 2006-09-08 25139, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        that's not a wget problem, that's a URI problem

        • 2006-09-08 25158, 2006

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      • dergringo
        hi

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      • luks
        yeah, but i forgot to use -O

        • 2006-09-08 25117, 2006

      • luks
        instead of that i use used the new filename in url :)

        • 2006-09-08 25124, 2006

      • dergringo
        how do I enter releases from jamendo.com ?

        • 2006-09-08 25125, 2006

      • luks
        s/use /just/

        • 2006-09-08 25136, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        uhh, isn't -O the default behavior?

        • 2006-09-08 25149, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        like, curl is meant to display by default, but curl -O will behave like wget...

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      • FauxFaux
        Curl has ugly help.

        • 2006-09-08 25112, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        two people grabbed that file, and both of you have old versions of wget. heh

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      • rpedro has quit

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      • FauxFaux
        This machine is debian stable, sorry. :p

        • 2006-09-08 25122, 2006

      • luks
        yay, lots of japanese music

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      • luks
        VxJasonxV: thanks a lot

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      • BrianG
        this is running on a cd that i burnt probably 7 years ago

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      • VxJasonxV
        ;)

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      • VxJasonxV
        I can provide a boatload more provided one thing:

        • 2006-09-08 25156, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        err, never mind

        • 2006-09-08 25159, 2006

      • FauxFaux ponders running it on the dvd folder.

        • 2006-09-08 25101, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        I can just provide a boatload more if you want

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      • FauxFaux
        *ddr

        • 2006-09-08 25111, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        ha

        • 2006-09-08 25119, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        ddr is fully tagged on MusicBrainz

        • 2006-09-08 25121, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        (thanks to mwa)

        • 2006-09-08 25136, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        actually, that's a lie, I don't think I ever entered str!kestival...

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      • rpedro joined the channel

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      • VxJasonxV
        umm

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      • VxJasonxV
        how would I sort ∠R ?

        • 2006-09-08 25101, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        just "R" ?

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      • rpedro has quit

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      • FauxFaux
        My downlaods folder seems to be strangely well tagged, based on the output of that script. Spooky.

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      • BrianG
        yeah..