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      • Mutiny_ joined the channel

        • 2006-12-17 35109, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        hi there

        • 2006-12-17 35117, 2006

      • luks
        hi

        • 2006-12-17 35120, 2006

      • cooperaa
        hello

        • 2006-12-17 35142, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        on the PicardLinuxInstall paqge.. it mentiuons the "Debian Experimental repository" I've never heard of such a thing. Maybe a link to some info about it is in order?

        • 2006-12-17 35103, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        high latency terminal, typos abound

        • 2006-12-17 35121, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        a little googling didn't turn up anything about it

        • 2006-12-17 35107, 2006

      • Clint
        here's where the link might go http://packages.debian.org/experimental/sound/pic…

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • luks
        just add 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main' to sources.list and apt-get picard

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        luks, that should be in the wiki page.

        • 2006-12-17 35132, 2006

      • luks
        okay, i'll add it there

        • 2006-12-17 35141, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        thanks. :)

        • 2006-12-17 35142, 2006

      • cooperaa
        guys, how do I get the wiki to not put a link when I am putting a command line code?

        • 2006-12-17 35144, 2006

      • cooperaa
        bzr get [WWW] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~luks/picard/qt-port picard-qt

        • 2006-12-17 35146, 2006

      • cooperaa
        erg!

        • 2006-12-17 35159, 2006

      • luks
        i just somehow guessed, it's obvious to all debian users :)

        • 2006-12-17 35108, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        heh

        • 2006-12-17 35116, 2006

      • luks
        cooperaa: {{{ command line }}}

        • 2006-12-17 35117, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        apparently not this debian user.

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: thanks :)

        • 2006-12-17 35132, 2006

      • Clint
        experimental isn't widely used by non-developers, afaik

        • 2006-12-17 35152, 2006

      • Clint
        why is picard in there anyway?

        • 2006-12-17 35103, 2006

      • luks
        because it depends on a new libtunepimp package

        • 2006-12-17 35114, 2006

      • luks
        which can't go to unstable, because it would break some apps

        • 2006-12-17 35118, 2006

      • Clint
        ah, good reason

        • 2006-12-17 35159, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        for some reason i'm getting an old python-tunepimp whiuch doesn't meet picards version dependency

        • 2006-12-17 35129, 2006

      • luks
        you need to install the one from experimental

        • 2006-12-17 35155, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        how do you specify to get that one rather than the other one?

        • 2006-12-17 35123, 2006

      • Clint
        try apt-get -t experimental install picard

        • 2006-12-17 35131, 2006

      • Clint
        and if that doesn't work

        • 2006-12-17 35137, 2006

      • Clint
        try apt-get -t experimental install picard/experimental python-tunepimp/experimental

        • 2006-12-17 35148, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        ah i had to pin it okay

        • 2006-12-17 35121, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        (might be good to put that in the wiki too)

        • 2006-12-17 35126, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: what's a good disclaimer for the picardqt install guide?

        • 2006-12-17 35159, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        whats the most reliable linux program to go through a collection of mp3 files and properly tag them from the musicbrainz data? the most reliable way?

        • 2006-12-17 35102, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: sorry for all the spam from editing the wiki :(

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • cooperaa
        Picard

        • 2006-12-17 35132, 2006

      • cooperaa
        I never had a problem with the newest release on Ubuntu

        • 2006-12-17 35155, 2006

      • Clint
        what's the most reliable program to do that without X?

        • 2006-12-17 35121, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        only about 200 out of 600 files made it out of "Unclustered" files into "Album cliusters":

        • 2006-12-17 35148, 2006

      • cooperaa
        Mutiny_: do you have it analyzing the files for puids?

        • 2006-12-17 35123, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        i'm not sure. how would i tell?

        • 2006-12-17 35126, 2006

      • cooperaa
        and do they have any tags at all before you put them in musicbrainz?

        • 2006-12-17 35108, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        some do, some don't

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        i'm not putting anything into musicbrainz, just trying to tag what i have.

        • 2006-12-17 35129, 2006

      • luks
        cooperaa: i think the disclaimer is good as it is

        • 2006-12-17 35130, 2006

      • luks
        people will be scared of the long list of packages anyway :)

        • 2006-12-17 35138, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: good :) haha

        • 2006-12-17 35149, 2006

      • luks
        hmm, why does libofa needs expat

        • 2006-12-17 35109, 2006

      • cooperaa
        idunno, that's just what it told me when it failed compiling

        • 2006-12-17 35140, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        whats the procedure to take a directory of mp3s, and try to tag them?

        • 2006-12-17 35141, 2006

      • luks
        yep, i see it in the configure script, but i'm pretty sure the library doesn't use it

        • 2006-12-17 35153, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        i figured it'd do better than 33% :/

        • 2006-12-17 35154, 2006

      • luks
        ah the examples

        • 2006-12-17 35107, 2006

      • luks thinks it should be optional

        • 2006-12-17 35118, 2006

      • cooperaa
        Mutiny_: it usually does do a very good job

        • 2006-12-17 35132, 2006

      • cooperaa
        but if it's never seen the files you're submitting before, then you should generate the PUIDs and submit them for other

        • 2006-12-17 35133, 2006

      • cooperaa
        s

        • 2006-12-17 35106, 2006

      • cooperaa
        put it this way, if you ripped the mp3s from a CD, chances are it will find the release since most popular releases have puids submitted for them

        • 2006-12-17 35111, 2006

      • luks
        Mutiny_: select the files and click the "Analyze" button

        • 2006-12-17 35126, 2006

      • cooperaa
        if the release is obscure or the files you got are not close representations of the originals, you may have to do a bit more work

        • 2006-12-17 35142, 2006

      • cooperaa
        might I also recommend: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardDocumentation

        • 2006-12-17 35143, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        I don't see an "Analyze" button.

        • 2006-12-17 35159, 2006

      • luks
        the one with orange waveform

        • 2006-12-17 35112, 2006

      • luks
        (if i remember it correctly)

        • 2006-12-17 35118, 2006

      • cooperaa
        I think you have to be selecting the unclustered files, right?

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        i see "Lookup CD" 2 icons without tooltips, and then "Cluster"

        • 2006-12-17 35126, 2006

      • luks
        yes

        • 2006-12-17 35153, 2006

      • luks
        hmm

        • 2006-12-17 35125, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: I'm curious how PicardQt tags flac files... does it recreate the entire 30MB file with new tags?

        • 2006-12-17 35145, 2006

      • cooperaa
        I'm curious because when I tag my flac files for the first time with PicardQt they take... 15 seconds or more each

        • 2006-12-17 35152, 2006

      • luks
        they usually have paddings

        • 2006-12-17 35106, 2006

      • luks
        hm

        • 2006-12-17 35114, 2006

      • cooperaa
        subsequent taggings take < 1 sec

        • 2006-12-17 35136, 2006

      • luks
        then the padding is probably not big enough and it needs to move the whole file

        • 2006-12-17 35156, 2006

      • cooperaa
        okay, it might also be that Amarok 1.4.3 ruined some of my flac files... so Picard is fixing them

        • 2006-12-17 35108, 2006

      • cooperaa
        Amarok ruined the tags in 1.4.3 which made the files appear corrupted

        • 2006-12-17 35128, 2006

      • luks
        Mutiny_: you see only two buttons between Lookup CD and Cluster?

        • 2006-12-17 35102, 2006

      • luks
        there should be three

        • 2006-12-17 35114, 2006

      • luks
        Save, Submit PUIDs and Analyze

        • 2006-12-17 35134, 2006

      • cooperaa
        is Analyze greyed out?

        • 2006-12-17 35112, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        they were until i selected files

        • 2006-12-17 35123, 2006

      • Mutiny_
        mystery greyed out buttons are so... fun to figure out

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • Mutiny_ has quit

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • cooperaa
        luks: I'm reading the PicardQt wiki page and under Mac OS X Installation Notes kuno says you need to set the cdrom to something asnd that you cannot use python-musicbrainz2-0.4.0 if you want to lookup cds

        • 2006-12-17 35116, 2006

      • luks
        yes, there is a bug in 0.4.0

        • 2006-12-17 35119, 2006

      • luks
        it always uses /dev/rdisk1

        • 2006-12-17 35156, 2006

      • luks
        and you also need the SVN version for fingerprinting...

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • cooperaa
        but I can lookup cds

        • 2006-12-17 35145, 2006

      • luks
        /dev/rdisk1 is the default CD-drive, I guess

        • 2006-12-17 35147, 2006

      • cooperaa
        without anything set for thte cdrom

        • 2006-12-17 35104, 2006

      • cooperaa
        okay, but I can't use fingerprinting I guess

        • 2006-12-17 35141, 2006

      • cooperaa
        (do you know how I can install svn?)

        • 2006-12-17 35109, 2006

      • ruaok
        apt-get install subversion

        • 2006-12-17 35120, 2006

      • luks
        apt-get on mac? :O

        • 2006-12-17 35130, 2006

      • tru
        fink it's called and it sucks.

        • 2006-12-17 35133, 2006

      • tru
        use darwinports.

        • 2006-12-17 35134, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        mact-get.. ;)

        • 2006-12-17 35138, 2006

      • cooperaa
        haha

        • 2006-12-17 35139, 2006

      • Yllona
        cooperaa: i think it's on dawin ports, and yes luks OS X has fink

        • 2006-12-17 35142, 2006

      • ruaok
        oh, sorry, that's right.

        • 2006-12-17 35146, 2006

      • cooperaa
        I already fink installed svn, but it doesnt work

        • 2006-12-17 35150, 2006

      • ruaok
        there is a binary package that works good.

        • 2006-12-17 35158, 2006

      • ruaok hates fint

        • 2006-12-17 35100, 2006

      • ruaok
        fink even

        • 2006-12-17 35112, 2006

      • tru
        my views on fink can't be printed accuratly.

        • 2006-12-17 35112, 2006

      • Clint hates macos

        • 2006-12-17 35130, 2006

      • cooperaa also hates macosx and misses ubuntu

        • 2006-12-17 35140, 2006

      • cooperaa
        but

        • 2006-12-17 35141, 2006

      • tru loves macosx :D

        • 2006-12-17 35152, 2006

      • cooperaa loves garageband and pro tools

        • 2006-12-17 35156, 2006

      • ruaok hates macos, but loves macosx

        • 2006-12-17 35117, 2006

      • Yllona
        cooperaa: svn is on darwin ports

        • 2006-12-17 35135, 2006

      • cooperaa
        what in the world is this darwinports people keep talking about?

        • 2006-12-17 35120, 2006

      • Clint
        it's like bsd ports, but special

        • 2006-12-17 35142, 2006

      • cooperaa
        alright well I'll install it and see what happens

        • 2006-12-17 35143, 2006

      • luks
        cooperaa: i can make you tarball of pymb2 from svn, if you want

        • 2006-12-17 35135, 2006

      • Yllona
        tru: can you point cooperaa to the darwinports for svn, i'm on the phone

        • 2006-12-17 35157, 2006

      • tru
        http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ <--

        • 2006-12-17 35106, 2006

      • cooperaa
        tru: yup, I'm isntalling

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • tru
        great stuff.

        • 2006-12-17 35129, 2006

      • cooperaa
        dammit, you won't believe how many times I wrote "isntall" yesterday when getting picardqt to work!

        • 2006-12-17 35123, 2006

      • luks
        cooperaa: the link on PicardQt page should be ["MacOSXPicardQtInstallationGuide"] :)

        • 2006-12-17 35140, 2006

      • cooperaa
        okay thanks :) I 'fixed' it sort of

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • ruaok
        ok, I'm ready to pull the trigger on the site update.

        • 2006-12-17 35134, 2006

      • ruaok
        anyone have a reason why I should not do this now?

        • 2006-12-17 35130, 2006

      • ruaok
        ok, here goes

        • 2006-12-17 35135, 2006

      • ruaok crosses his fingers

        • 2006-12-17 35153, 2006

      • cooperaa
        BECAUSE I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF ADDING AR's!!!! :@:@

        • 2006-12-17 35158, 2006

      • cooperaa
        :) hahaha kidding

        • 2006-12-17 35137, 2006

      • cooperaa
        I guess I'll go back to tagging while the site is down :)

        • 2006-12-17 35140, 2006

      • ruaok
        crap. forgot a perl module. oops.

        • 2006-12-17 35105, 2006

      • cooperaa holds his breath

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • rpedro joined the channel

        • 2006-12-17 35117, 2006

      • ruaok
        duh.

        • 2006-12-17 35122, 2006

      • ruaok didn't do a make install

        • 2006-12-17 35124, 2006

      • ruaok
        :_)

        • 2006-12-17 35145, 2006

      • ruaok
        ok, should be coming back now

        • 2006-12-17 35111, 2006

      • cooperaa
        it's alive!

        • 2006-12-17 35134, 2006

      • ruaok
        wikidoc, check.

        • 2006-12-17 35138, 2006

      • ruaok
        search, check.

        • 2006-12-17 35155, 2006

      • ruaok
        anyone around, please help me check everything to make sure I didn't bork anything.

        • 2006-12-17 35103, 2006

      • cooperaa
        sure

        • 2006-12-17 35112, 2006

      • ruaok
        thx

        • 2006-12-17 35113, 2006

      • cooperaa
        voting works

        • 2006-12-17 35130, 2006

      • cooperaa
        adding ARs works :)

        • 2006-12-17 35104, 2006

      • ruaok
        found one issue in a report so far...

        • 2006-12-17 35115, 2006

      • cooperaa
        artist pages work, preferences load,

        • 2006-12-17 35127, 2006

      • Yllona
        tru: darwinports.org has been migrated to macports.org, tho most of the docs are still on darwinports.org

        • 2006-12-17 35140, 2006

      • Yllona
        tru: jan an FYI :)