there seems to be an extremely long wait time in between puid lookups
2007-03-04 06322, 2007
Jugdish
what's it doing?
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FauxFaux
Jugdish: Looking up the pweeds?
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FauxFaux
:)
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Jugdish
hmm
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Jugdish
i don't see why it should take a full minute to look up one puid
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FauxFaux
It doesn't, in my experience, maybe the server is busy?
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Jugdish
could be
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Jugdish
luks: a question about how puid-lookup is done...once a release is pulled from the server and brought into picard, does it bring in all the puids for that release? and does this mean the server does not need to be accessed again while matching up the individual tracks in that release?
i'll admit i don't fully understand the details of puid's but once you have a local copy a release's info including all its puid's, does the server really need to be queried again if any of those puid's matches a file?
2007-03-04 06307, 2007
luks
nope, this is a good idea
2007-03-04 06315, 2007
luks
but still, that will eliminate only the last step
2007-03-04 06338, 2007
Jugdish
i'm just trying to think of a way of decreasing the number of accesses to the servers
2007-03-04 06317, 2007
luks
i'll make it download all puids when downloading a release and first compare to already loaded releases
2007-03-04 06338, 2007
Jugdish
:)
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Kilu
luks, would you consider it smart to install the alpha picard over the earlier dev versions?
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luks
it shouldn't cause any problems
2007-03-04 06318, 2007
Kilu
excellent
2007-03-04 06318, 2007
Kilu
how about installing over the old 072?
2007-03-04 06349, 2007
luks
there will be problem with uninstalling 0.7.2 if you want to have them both
2007-03-04 06306, 2007
luks
overwriting should be ok
2007-03-04 06310, 2007
Jugdish
i've noticed that when you delete a release on the right-hand pane it always jumps up to the top of the list, which is kinda weird
2007-03-04 06313, 2007
Kilu
there is no need for me to keep both, so hooray
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Kilu
is it possible to tell picard not to write to some tagfield at all, for example, albumartist?
2007-03-04 06337, 2007
luks
Kilu: you can unset it using tagger script
2007-03-04 06312, 2007
luks
enable scripting and put $unset(albumartist) there
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Kilu
hooray
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Kilu
I suck at scripting, so I didn't even dare to try
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Kilu
:D
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luks
:)
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Kilu
hmmm
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UserErr0r
whatup
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Kilu
looks like the unset also disables the tag from the rename strings
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luks
ah
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luks
that will need some tricks then, '$set(_albumartist,%albumartist%) $unset(albumartist)' and use %_albumartist% in the naming format
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luks
(I hope that will work)
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Kilu
x.x
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Kilu
looks scary
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zout
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Kilu
but seems to work okay :)
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bogdanb
sorry for spamming the wiki, lukas :)
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luks
no problem :)
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catgroove
set(unset:set)
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catgroove
:P
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catgroove
sorry?
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catgroove
I was just jokinmg
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Kilu
booooooooooooooooooooom
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catgroove
I don't know any code
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Kilu
:p
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catgroove
luks?
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catgroove
her is the other bug: error in QTCORE4.dll
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bogdanb
lukas, I can't find the info for how tagger script works; I rememeber I saw a page once, but I can only find the PicardQt/Scripting. When is it applied? I tried to define $if(%date%,$set(year,$left(%date%,4))) and use it in the dir name as %year% but it doesn't work.
2007-03-04 06320, 2007
Kilu
I think they are applied when the album is loaded from the database. if you change the script after, you have to refresh the album. if that's what you meant :D
2007-03-04 06313, 2007
bogdanb
well, it doesn't work in the "test tags" example, at least
2007-03-04 06328, 2007
bogdanb
hmm, let me see
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luks
$if(%date%,$set(year,$left(%date%,4))) is not very safe if you want it only for file renaming
2007-03-04 06356, 2007
luks
this way it will write tag YEAR to ogg or flac files
hmm, I wonder if it actually works without any instrument or vocal type
2007-03-04 06316, 2007
catgroove
how do I tell it to put the %artist% into the composer id-field *if* there is a 'perforer* ar?
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catgroove
$if(set something)
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catgroove
if not erh.. something
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luks
I'm afraid this is not possible right now
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catgroove
oh
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catgroove
erh.. shouldn't it be?
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catgroove
I mean with the code there...
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luks
because perfomers can be %performer%, %performer:orchestra%, ...
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catgroove
no it's just a 'perfrmer' type ar
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luks
I know, but in picard it uses also instruments/vocals
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catgroove
then if2(%performer%,%performer:orcestra,%performer:vocalfuu% etc%)?
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luks
aaah
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luks
there is a separate AR type for simple 'performed by'
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catgroove
yes there is
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catgroove
:)
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luks
I didn't know
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catgroove
heh
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luks
I think picard doesn't even use that
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bogdanb
luks: that's what I mean about the tagger script, I'm not sure how it works. Can I have variables that I use as sub-expressions? (But that are not automatically used for something else, as years seems to be.) And can I use newlines and indentations? I have some big lisp-like expressions for file naming...
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catgroove
nope, I tried it
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bogdanb
and my biggest pet-peeve: can I find out the year of the first release, for remasters/re-releases that have the necessary AR?
2007-03-04 06350, 2007
luks
bogdanb: you can use variables that starts with _
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catgroove
also with that inplace, I'd want the script to put the MBartist in the composer-id tagfield (in the file) IF there is a "performed" ar
2007-03-04 06304, 2007
luks
but it's usually better to unset them when you don't need them
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bogdanb
k, I can do that
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luks
and the script is whitespace sensitive, but in most places it doesn't matter
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catgroove
so then all my mozart files have 'mozart' in its 'composer' field, but thetrack and tag says 'whatever orchestra' or somesuch
2007-03-04 06337, 2007
catgroove
well *i* don't actually wan it.. I think, but I am certain others wantr that
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luks
I need to figure out how to handle all the performer types better
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catgroove
okidoki
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catgroove
could do something like, %performer:vocal:all% or (%performer:vocal%) then %performer:vocal:soprano%
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catgroove
hmm..
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catgroove
foodtime
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Yakin
moin! are there any tagger developers in here?
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Yakin
im looking for a good way to generate PUIDS with libofa and without using lame or some other external programms. Any experiences?
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luks
you need something to decode the audio files
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luks
so the options depend on your target OS, whether it's open-source or not, etc.
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Yakin
yes I played around with libmad but decodings seems to be slow on mp3
2007-03-04 06352, 2007
Yakin
Linux- GPL
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luks
you need only the first 123 seconds from the file
2007-03-04 06310, 2007
luks
picardqt on linux uses ffmpeg
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luks
it has quite simple API and codecs for most of formats
2007-03-04 06342, 2007
luks
err, 135 seconds
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Yakin
didn the time you need to decode depends on the content?
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luks
well, yes
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luks
but there isn't many songs with long leading silence
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Yakin
are 135 seconds the minimum you need?
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luks
130
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luks
(I think)
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Yakin
To handle the time you need in the tagger is quite unergonomic.
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luks
unergonomic?
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Yakin
then with TRM generation, the lib decided when there was enough data to calc the print.
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Yakin
The ofa lib did not I think
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luks
no, TRM uses only 30 seconds, nothing else
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luks
even if it's 30 seconds of silence
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Yakin
Shure? For me, it looks like the TRM algorithm take as much data as it needs for the fingerprint
