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      • catgroove
        catgroove is now known as nightgroove
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      • nightgroove
        night all!
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      • nightgroove
        :3
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      • ruaok
        natta!
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      • ruaok
        (cover art stuff is live on test now)_
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        request for permission fired off to archive.org
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      • Muz just had an idea for Picard
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      • Muz
        Throw it a m3u or pls file, and it adds those files in the playlist to the unclustered blargh
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        what does ANV stand for on discogs?
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      • cooperaa
        yuppers
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      • cooperaa
        what's up ruaok
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      • ruaok
        heya.
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      • cooperaa
        get my comment on the blog?
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      • ruaok
        just read your blog post.
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      • ruaok
        :-)
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      • cooperaa
        cool
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      • cooperaa
        +1
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      • ruaok
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      • cooperaa
        I did
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      • cooperaa
        oh I was at staging
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      • cooperaa
        err.. no I was at test :)
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      • ruaok
        based on the first round of feedback I've changed things around a bit.
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      • ruaok
        low, unknown, high
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      • cooperaa
        Ya I was playing with metallica
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      • ruaok
        don and I had discussed bad, unknown and good.
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      • ruaok
        but that looked ugly and gave the wrong impression.
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      • cooperaa
        I don't like the idea of making an edit to change the quality though :(
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      • ruaok
        well, its a data safety issue.
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      • ruaok
        we don't want people setting an artist to low, making THEIR changes and then setting back to high.
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      • cooperaa
        I think quality is subjective and each person who stumbles across a release should be able to show their opinion
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      • cooperaa
        true...
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      • ruaok
        you want a rating system, basically.
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      • cooperaa
        yes
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      • ruaok
        that's VASTLY more complex/
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      • cooperaa
        popular artists who have a lot of subscribers will obviously get higher ratings...
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      • ruaok
        not even in the same ballpark.
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      • cooperaa
        making things harder to mess up
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      • cooperaa
        yes, I know
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      • cooperaa
        what is implemented now *is* a big step in the right direction I think
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      • ruaok
        I'm not convinced we need that.
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      • ruaok
        I'd like to tinker with this approach first. if it fails we can regroup and reconsider a full rating system.
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      • ruaok
        so, the question that I want to answer, (hopefully before I leave for 5 days) what the levels should be called.
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      • ruaok
        and what should something be by default?>
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      • ruaok
        I think the current system is ok, but no the best...
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      • cooperaa
        an advantage of giving +/- 1 is that it represents several opinions... if you see that Metallica's Master of Puppets has +223 you know pretty confidently that there's probably nothing to fix here
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      • ruaok
        not
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      • cooperaa
        what about unverified / unkown / verified?
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      • cooperaa
        ruaok: ?
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      • ruaok ponders
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      • ruaok
        I've thought about this so much I think I've overthought it. I think.
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      • ruaok feels a blog post coming on.
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      • cooperaa
        :)
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      • cooperaa
        280 * 20 = 5600 EDITS!!!
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      • cooperaa
        how can we vote on all those?
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      • cooperaa
        lol :)
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      • cooperaa
        ruaok: can you please add a "approve" vote option? :(
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      • ruaok
        we have that for automods....
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      • cooperaa
        a radio button like Yes/No/Abstain/No Vote
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      • cooperaa
        I think that could considerably cut down the queue size
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      • ruaok doubts it
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      • cooperaa
        I'd prove you wrong ;)
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      • ruaok
        that will lead people to abuse it, which in that turn means you're actually right.
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      • ruaok
        but lets just say that is not the goal of the excercise.
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      • cooperaa
        okay, but I think that we've entrusted the autoeditors with power... and we expect them not to abuse it
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      • ruaok
        its all about checks and balances. adding an approve voting option is not balanced.
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      • BrianG
        ruaok: could it read "Data quality" rather than "Quality"?
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      • BrianG
        it kind of gives the impression that it's the quality of the artist since the addition is on the same line as other information about the artist
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      • ruaok
        BrianG: yeah, that needs improvement.
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      • ruaok
        in general its quite ugly right now.
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      • ruaok
        and adding the word data will make it worse.
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      • ruaok is totally open for suggestions
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      • BrianG
        what about just moving the data quality stuff to the "Info:" line?
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      • BrianG
        or where the change quality link is
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      • BrianG
        some how combining the link and the status into one spot
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      • BrianG
        sorry im just baked-storming.. theres a million ways to display it i guess
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      • BrianG
        brain*
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      • ruaok
        heh. mr freud your stoner slip is showing...
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      • ruaok
        but that is actually a good idea.
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      • ruaok stops messing with the test server and goes back to the dev server
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      • BrianG
        everyone on test.mb should be an autoeditor
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      • ruaok
        you are. just auto approve the edits.
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        this doesn't look too good. I don't like adding information into the link bar.
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      • ruaok
        and albums don't have a "info" section the way artists do.
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      • BrianG
        can't auto aprove my own edits?
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      • BrianG
        i see no place to auto aprove
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      • BrianG
        ioh wait
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      • BrianG
        nevermind
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      • BrianG
        never saw that before
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      • BrianG
        theres an awful lot of blank grey space
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      • BrianG
        i'm sure something could go there.
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      • null3d
        y0
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      • ruaok
        what about this?
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      • ruaok
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      • BrianG
        took forever to find it heh
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      • BrianG
        seems like the current layout is hacked to death
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      • BrianG
        i like that spot
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      • BrianG
        maybe just stick it to the left of language
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      • BrianG
        and have the change quality set up the same way as edit language and release attribute
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      • BrianG
        [ ### Data Quality ] Edit | [ Danish, Latin ] Edit | [ Album, Official ] Edit
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      • ruaok
        heh
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      • ruaok
        go check it now
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      • ruaok
        almost
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      • BrianG
        fresh
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      • ruaok
        from hacked to death to fresh in 3 minutes. :-)
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      • BrianG
        well i was talking about two different things, but yeah
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      • ruaok
        ok, the artist data quality now looks the same way
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      • ruaok goes to check that in
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      • ruaok
        and live on test