luks: thanks. i clicked 'tell a friend' in itunes and got the link trhough email.
2007-05-01 12120, 2007
luks
ah
2007-05-01 12141, 2007
warp
so that id is used as catalog id?
2007-05-01 12157, 2007
luks
I think it's the best info we have
2007-05-01 12104, 2007
warp nods.
2007-05-01 12108, 2007
Jugdish
sounds good to me
2007-05-01 12127, 2007
srotta
I don't like it.
2007-05-01 12139, 2007
srotta
How likely is it for those IDs to stay the same for, say, half a year?-)
2007-05-01 12153, 2007
luks
why would they change them?
2007-05-01 12102, 2007
srotta
Because they haveno reason not to?
2007-05-01 12104, 2007
luks
stable IDs = more money
2007-05-01 12124, 2007
luks
and isn't more money the reason for running itunes store? :)
2007-05-01 12127, 2007
srotta
Stable IDs = not an issue, if they decide to "develop" their shop further.
2007-05-01 12148, 2007
srotta
That's just a fact, links rot.
2007-05-01 12117, 2007
srotta
And if the ID is not exactly advertised, they have no reason to keep them if they change the architecture, or just for the heck of it.
2007-05-01 12138, 2007
luks
they are using the ID to link to their store
2007-05-01 12149, 2007
luks
if they change it, they break many sites linking to them
2007-05-01 12109, 2007
luks
which mean people won't be able to find albums and thus won't buy them
2007-05-01 12118, 2007
luks
apple would go against itself
2007-05-01 12132, 2007
luks
it's the same as with amazon, they have no reason to change asins
2007-05-01 12132, 2007
srotta
Which wouldn't be exactly the first time.
2007-05-01 12135, 2007
srotta
8)
2007-05-01 12141, 2007
srotta
But yeah, I probably won't be buying anything from them in near future, and I probably won't go checking those IDs either. I just don't like the idea of using a part of an URL, if it's not documented to stay the same.
2007-05-01 12138, 2007
warp buys more itunes exclusives :(
2007-05-01 12151, 2007
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2007-05-01 12159, 2007
Muz_
Wanted the topic :)
2007-05-01 12102, 2007
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2007-05-01 12102, 2007
Jugdish
luks: what happens if you try to merge an album into another album with a different number of tracks?
2007-05-01 12128, 2007
aCiD2
Uhh... if change track numbers, does the order of the tracks not update?
2007-05-01 12146, 2007
luks
aCiD2: it does
2007-05-01 12153, 2007
Jugdish
aCiD2: the track change edit has to get applied for it show up
2007-05-01 12153, 2007
aCiD2
Good
2007-05-01 12102, 2007
aCiD2
It hasn't in the preview, just checking
2007-05-01 12103, 2007
luks
Jugdish: the extra tracks will be moved to the other album
Freso: the "[untitled]" track is final track on the other release
2007-05-01 12143, 2007
luks
Freso: do realize he is going to merge the releases?
2007-05-01 12150, 2007
luks
er, +you
2007-05-01 12126, 2007
luks
the other option is to add 17 "silence" tracks
2007-05-01 12128, 2007
Freso
luks: Yes, but that means that I'll just have to find that merge and vote no there too. :)
2007-05-01 12138, 2007
luks
huh?
2007-05-01 12103, 2007
Freso
luks: Read my note.
2007-05-01 12108, 2007
luks
Freso: merging two unrelated tracks is wrong, renamed or not
2007-05-01 12126, 2007
Freso
luks: If they're not the same, neither are the releases.
2007-05-01 12132, 2007
Jugdish
Freso: I understand neither of the 2 notes you added there
2007-05-01 12151, 2007
luks
Freso: the real release has 17 silence tracks
2007-05-01 12105, 2007
luks
somebody added it without them, because AMG doesn't list them
2007-05-01 12119, 2007
luks
are you saying the bogus release should be kept?
2007-05-01 12116, 2007
Freso
luks: No, I just hadn't heard the magic words "bogus release" before now.
2007-05-01 12143, 2007
luks
well, the first note has a link to it...
2007-05-01 12135, 2007
luks
hehe
2007-05-01 12140, 2007
luks
AMG actually does list them
2007-05-01 12152, 2007
Freso
luks: No. The first note has a link to another release, which might as well be the bogus release from where I'm sitting. Nowhere is it stated that one release or the other is non-existant.
2007-05-01 12159, 2007
Jugdish
but torrent sites wouldn't include the silence tracks and that's probably where the person who added the "bogus release" got their copy since they didn't add a DiscID to it
2007-05-01 12104, 2007
Jugdish
Freso: you're saying that this artist released to physical copies of a CD, one with 17 silence tracks and one without? does that really seem more logical than somebody obtaining their copy online with no silence tracks, and another person obtaining the actual CD with the silence tracks?
2007-05-01 12146, 2007
Freso
Jugdish: Unfortunately, I've found that humans are not (always) logical. :)
2007-05-01 12113, 2007
ajh
There's no reason at all the keep the silence tracks.
2007-05-01 12121, 2007
luks
ajh: there is
2007-05-01 12132, 2007
Freso
ajh: Huh?
2007-05-01 12143, 2007
ajh
No, you compensate for the fact they could or could-not actually be there as files.
2007-05-01 12149, 2007
luks
Jugdish: can you cancel the remove track edit? I'll add the silence tracks and then it can be merged
