#musicbrainz

My Spanish friend had the cd that can be found in the discography page, but the same cd on amazon has the wrong number of discs

sh*t: I found some releases that have been entered without disc IDs and have the usual +2 track lengths. What should I do?

even more strange: this release (with +2 lengths) have two totally different disc IDs: http://musicbrainz.org/album/7a15120b-5b37-4f0a...

OK, the Amaral enigma is solved: amazon is wrong. The album with the black cover is the 15-track reissue

This is... huh, RAWR

RAWR like Dave2se is HAWT?

Dave2se and his gargantuan anus

3 ponies are hiding in it somewhere

They say he forged his Ginger Afro of doom somewhere deep within

:D

MuzMuz.

Needs more goatse FauxFaux

Or Dave2se

Or goatse with a ginger afro

Madness is now known as Madness_

o_O

Faux Faux, http://sraphim.homeip.net/dave2se.jpg

as well as getting my "hooo~!" reference

Hado gay is awesome.

But that is so old that 4chan people could slap you for trying to sneak it as a new thing.

Hooooooooo!

:o

dude, i just found it

;_;

anyways, I´d love some votes on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7219934

Here's a fun one...

T.Rex is a performance name for Marc Bolan. Marc Bolan composes several tracks. T.Rex plays them, later, for a soundtrack. Soundtrack style would normally go with composer, unless it's a previously released track, as these are. But when the composer and the performer are two names for the same person, would that still hold true?

I thought trex was the band marcy was *in*

hi frø

I needses votses

"why do we have to cut these things so damn close" /back to the future quote

20 minutes until i have to wait one more hour

http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7219934 come on guys needs two more votes, pelase with ponies and moose

ontop

;_;:;_:;;;

come on guys, please?

Yo, was any decision raised about tonal facts about music, such as the key and BPM of a song?

s/raised/reached, but either way, I don't think so going from a quick read through the lists

god I am an idiot

I accidentally cancelled the damn mod wtf how did i do that?

Am I voting yes, mo?

Hm, I need a tag editor that can extract cover art from mp3s, and it should do it on a large amount of mp3, suggestions?

extract?

yeah, a bit of mutagen should fix that for you.

luks: I'm not a coder.

what OS are you using?

(I'm a bit bored, so I could hack something for you)

s

Windows.

mp3tag. Check their forums for and action to extract the image.

and->an

Mutagen's the bizzle yo

Hi! I'm a little confused about this Picard proggie - does it or does it not calculate puid's?

It calculates a fingerprint to match to the MusicIP PUIDs to be most accurate.

Ok, thanks! What is it it sends to musicbrainz then? Nearest match to an existing puid?

just statistics?

no, those are used for PUID lookups

PUID on it's own doesn't tell you anything about the track

If the Picard fingerprint matches a MusicIP PUID and you choose "save PUIDs" it will send the info to Musicbrainz that that MusicIP PUID belongs to that track.

One of these days I'm going to draw a diagram that explains that page. Once you can visualize it in your head it makes perfect sense.

:) I was reading that page, and some others too...

I CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER!

o.O

Is a fingerprint like a TRM?

no, it's the same model

you have fingerprints and TRMs

Oh I see, what's in a fingerprint then?

the actual music characteristics

TRMs and PUIDs are just IDs

Right

So does MusicDNS have a map of fingerprints to PUIDs, or are they generated every time?

they have a database of PUIDs

probably not mapped directly to fingerprints, but to their more complete music analysis

Right, makes sense

the difference between TRMs is that the server adds new TRMs based on fingerprint lookups if it's not already in the database

with MusicDNS you need to use special MusicIP tools for that, lookups are read-only

So when I do the acoustic analysis in Picard and it finds a match, it only does that because someone has ran the track through genpuid/the mixer before hand?

yes

Neat, that service is more popular than I thought then

I've sometimes wondered about that, when the system finds a PUID for every track in an album except the biggest hit.

8)

It's sort of illogical.

hehe

luks: In that case, I have a question... with the fingerprinting I read somewhere than it has to be at least 30 seconds, is this correct?

that's for TRM

I see

libofa needs 130 seconds

Oh?

or 135, I'm not sure right now

Cause I was going to have a play around one day at a projcet where you give it a DJ mix, and it would attempt to look up the tracks (then I thought it probably won't work, because the tracks are pitched up)

aCiD2: musicdns is not really a good tool for that

it's oriented on files, not "streams"

mmm

I had two tracks, on that was 4 minutes, one that was 8. The 8 minute tracks was the exact same for the first 4 minutes, it just added more stuff to the end. The system thought they were the same.

Kerensky97: I'd expect that to be an user error

somebody submitted the same PUID to both tracks

not the picard system, MusicIP.

musicdns uses track duration to differentiate between puids

ah

They came up in the duplicate track list.

alas, it was not meant to be....

wasn't me

:-)

i have never eaten a CHEEZBURGER

smart man

the last.fm events thing turned out to be very useful.

events like concerts?

i can't believe i didn't think of that earlier this week or even before traveling here :)

ruaok: yes.

ah, useful for your trip to paris.

I like them too, although I'm not too fond of adding them.

ruaok: user entered data usually, although this one even had a buy ticket link, so perhaps last.fm has started to arrange stuff with the national ticket services of certain countries.

oh, i have to be cooking. afk.