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      • katta
        heey this is mo from my mothers machine :DDDDD
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      • Gharbeia_
        Hi, could anyone give me a clue why MP3 files are greyed out in Picard. I am using Feisty Fawn
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      • luks
        sudo apt-get install libtunepimp5-mp3
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      • luks
        :)
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      • Gharbeia_
        Thanks, luks . I use aptitude :)
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      • CatCat
        rawr
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      • CatCat
        ping katta
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      • brianfreud
        howdy mo :)
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • CatCat
        mo has internet
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      • CatCat
        mom*
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      • brianfreud
        :)
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      • CatCat
        she is katta
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      • CatCat
        you can say hi to her if you like
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      • CatCat
        she's away watching "millions of bats on TV"
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      • CatCat
        funfact: in norwegian "of" is 'av' but "off" is also 'av'
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      • Knio1
        Knio1 is now known as Knio
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      • brianfreud
        hi katta :)
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      • warp
        brianfreud: how do you keep track of those edits which you added a note, but are waiting for the original editor to do some fixing and such?
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      • brianfreud
        That's where abstaining only on those I'm leaving such notes on come in handy
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      • brianfreud
        I just do a adv search for all open edits I abstained on
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      • warp
        ok, hm... i also abstain when i don't have an opinion but don't want to see the edit again.
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      • brianfreud
        well, you coul;d further limit to add release edits
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      • warp
        i already assumed that :)
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      • brianfreud
        :P
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      • warp
        also, a bunch i prefer they would fix it, but in general the add release edit isn't too bad and I already voted yes.
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      • warp
        i could ofcourse abstain those too if i know i'll get back to them. hmmm.
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, a "follow up on me" checkbox would be nice to mark those
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      • warp
        i mean, the problem is only if the original editor doesn't respond. if he does, i'll see the notes.
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      • warp
        i'll try to use that abstaining method of yours.
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      • brianfreud
        yeah - pretty much, if it needs follow up, but I voted yes, I have to pull it from the emails. the abstains tend to be the ones needing more - verification urls or whatever
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      • warp
        you could just start voting no on verification url notes. then they just fail if there is no response :)
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      • brianfreud
        :P
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      • CatCat
        omg
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      • CatCat
        my mum learns stuf fast
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      • CatCat er kjempe glad
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Chachani ~ Tamia (from Vol. 6: Perumanta)
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      • CatCat
        MBChatLogger: off
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      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
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      • CatCat
        can i again say what a stroke of genious http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/kuno/CurrentProposals… is?
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      • CatCat
        uh
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        kuno ftw
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      • brianfreud
        btw mo, I tried to ID the authors of the older proposals, but can you couble check that I listed you for the right ones in there?
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      • CatCat
        yes
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      • brianfreud
        cool
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      • CatCat
        there isalso one where i propose adding [instrument] to 'was member of' (or adda seperate one)
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      • warp
        CatCat: thanks :)
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      • CatCat
        its i nthe mailing lsit
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      • luks
        I that page should track only style proposals
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      • CatCat
        no it shouldnt
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      • CatCat
        it shoudl track all proposlas
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      • CatCat
        no devidings
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      • luks
        it doesn't make much sense to track most of the feature proposals
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      • CatCat
        besides its warps page :D
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      • CatCat
        does to me
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      • luks
        because it's not just a simple decision: let's do this
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      • CatCat
        it can be seperate later
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      • luks
        it needs to be actually done, which involves a lot of work
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      • CatCat
        seperated*
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      • luks
        while for style proposals, the decision is the only thing you need
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      • CatCat
        but findign and listign all proposals was a good job, currently stuff is a *mess*
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      • CatCat
        true
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      • brianfreud
        luks: a lot of the proposals need just to be made official, just never were - the three caps ones for example
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      • CatCat
        but its still under warp for that reason
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      • CatCat
        its not complete
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, he said he's gonna move it, just didn't think it'd get fleshed out so quick
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      • CatCat
        yes
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      • luks
        brianfreud: I meant things like "Artist Role Inheritance Proposal"
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      • luks
        or "Album Rework Proposal"
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      • brianfreud
        well, why not list them?
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      • brianfreud
        they're active proposals, right?
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      • warp
        luks: i sort of agree.
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      • luks
        because they will never be implemented in that way
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      • CatCat
        amnd then 'current style porposales can be oen page and 'current feature propsoals camn be another
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      • brianfreud
        right - so they ought to be marked historical, rather than active proposals then
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      • CatCat
        amny of those can be 'preserved ofr historical purposes'1
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      • luks
        those are proposal you can steal ideas from then working on a feature
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      • CatCat
        brianfreud: jikns
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      • CatCat
        luks: exactly
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      • luks
        so why do they need tracking, if they never will be implemented fully?
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      • brianfreud
        hence historical, but oughtn't to still be marked CategoryProposal and no "this is for historical blah" note - makes it hard to distinguish truely active from "dead"
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      • warp
        luks: would you prefer seperate pages, like CurrentStyleProposals and CurrentFeatureProposals?
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      • brianfreud
        if only so they get noticed, marked historical, then removed
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      • CatCat
        thats what i said :P
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      • brianfreud
        I'd prefer a CategoryHistorical
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      • CatCat
        thats great frø
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      • CatCat
        get to it >:D
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      • luks
        warp: we already have a few pages for RFEs
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      • luks
        + trac
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      • warp
        luks: trac is mostly for tracking issues, not their proposed solutions.
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      • luks
        well, track can link to the proposed solutions
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      • luks
        track
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      • brianfreud
        we also had wiki.musicbrainz.org/CurrentProposals, but it was WAY out of date
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      • warp
        luks: yes, true.
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      • CatCat
        luks: you have to remember that a) this was a rawdata list fetched from wiki and mailing lists, b) it can be fixed/refined alter c) its in uh 'alpha' right now :D
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      • brianfreud
        hehe, yup
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      • brianfreud
        alpha 0.2
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      • CatCat
        yes
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      • CatCat
        it makes sence to seeprate featurws fro mstuyle
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      • luks
        i dunno, it's just that I think filling it with RFEs kills it's usefulness
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      • warp
        my main goal was to track the style issues, because they are often forgotten and usually not that much effort to follow up on and get some closure either way.
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      • CatCat
        and luks;: remember that you know more avout how the server will be lookign the next year(s) than anyone esle talkign right now
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      • CatCat
        :)
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      • CatCat
        warp: yes
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      • brianfreud
        well, finding all the open proposals is, imho, the 1st step. then sorting into some sort of categorys, then figuring which just need to be quickly passed, or marked historical only
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      • CatCat
        brainfraud said however sicne their foudn the old feature things
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      • CatCat
        can be marked has historical and put in a category and moved of that page
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      • CatCat
        yes
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      • CatCat
        so the finished moved-onto-actual-page-not-just-subpage-page can be what luks said probably
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      • CatCat
        and what warp intended
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      • CatCat
        (wich isorta agree with)
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      • CatCat
        but the initial findign of all the proposals (be it style or feature) was a good idea
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      • luks
        not exactly
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      • CatCat
        and i just csme with a great idea
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      • luks
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      • luks
        it's an idea, not a proposal that should be implemented
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      • warp
        the naming scheme for all those pages is very inconsistent :)
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      • CatCat
        then mark it as that on warps page :)
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      • luks
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      • warp
        anyway, i'm off to a movie. will do splitting up at some point, will hopefully read the rest of todays backscroll when i get home.
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      • warp
        thanks for the feedback :)
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      • luks
        and I should probably remove the rap one, now that is was vetoed :)
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      • brianfreud
        someone vetoed it?
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      • luks
        gecks