Hypotethical situation: artist releases album prior to existance of CDs. Years later, they do release a CD using the exact original recordings. Release gets into musicbrainz database. One MB user promptly (and correctly) fills in the CD release, including its year. As expected, noone would commit a LP / tape release
2007-09-14 25741, 2007
brianfreud
assuming the LP/tape was track, track-time, and master identical, it happens all the time... not sure I get what you're saying
2007-09-14 25715, 2007
xlotlu
brianfreud: in the end, MB tagger client fetches data, and as expected gets the year of the CD release for the album, not the year of the actual release -- which i find rather incorrect
2007-09-14 25723, 2007
hawke
yeah
2007-09-14 25730, 2007
hawke
the correct thing is to add the vinyl release
2007-09-14 25738, 2007
xlotlu
and well, it's not that hypotethical :)
2007-09-14 25712, 2007
brianfreud
well, the tagger can only give what info is in the db
2007-09-14 25724, 2007
brianfreud
so if the db only has the CD event, that's the info it's reporting back
2007-09-14 25702, 2007
xlotlu
brianfreud: that's obvious. what i'm asking is if it *actually* is a good approach to tag the tracks with the release date
2007-09-14 25754, 2007
xlotlu
end user doesn't actually cares about releases, especially when they're identical copies, but about the year of that album...
2007-09-14 25723, 2007
brianfreud
lol, you;'d be surprised - I've seenthat question often enough where people want the data to somehow still be there :P
2007-09-14 25726, 2007
xlotlu
s/cares/care/
2007-09-14 25704, 2007
brianfreud
well, it's the standard database problem - and the standard one by one solution...
2007-09-14 25706, 2007
Jugdish
the tagger retrieves the earliest release year, so just add the vinyl/cassette release event and that's the year that will get tagged for the album
2007-09-14 25723, 2007
brianfreud
exactly
2007-09-14 25735, 2007
xlotlu
ok, that sheds some light..
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2007-09-14 25735, 2007
xlotlu
under the circumstances, i think users should be trained / prompted to search for and add the original release too
2007-09-14 25743, 2007
brianfreud
btw FauxFaux, I actually don't even quite recall now what that line of script does... I *think* it was removing all () from release titles in classical releases
2007-09-14 25733, 2007
brianfreud
xlotu: just getting users to hit "guess case" is normally enough of a battle...
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CatCat
brb
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brianfreud
FauxFaux, btw, what does this mean? 2721 hits (743 albums (not lines) have excuses).
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FauxFaux
brianfreud: I'm not entirely sure, I think it means that the page is 2721 lines long, and 743 of the boxes are coloured grey.
2007-09-14 25710, 2007
brianfreud
ah. ok
2007-09-14 25755, 2007
FauxFaux
It might just be making numbers up, though. :P
2007-09-14 25709, 2007
brianfreud
:P
2007-09-14 25728, 2007
FauxFaux
I was in the middle of making it actually ignore the things from the wiki.
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Muzzz
penis.
2007-09-14 25748, 2007
FauxFaux
Senips.
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brianfreud
'e snip s penis!
2007-09-14 25758, 2007
Muzzz
ponis.
2007-09-14 25731, 2007
brianfreud
What would Brian Boytano do if here were here right now?!?!?
Right now, you have a release rowid which has an artist rowid attached. You're just adding now multiple artist rowids, with a check when that release is accessed to pull all those artist rowids, rather than just the one
