hi, why does picard give my multi-disc albums different album id's for each disc?... this doesn't seem logical, and it's not playing nicely with my player
2007-10-18 29122, 2007
jerbear
anyone?
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FauxFaux
Different discs are different releases, jerbear, live with it. :)
2007-10-18 29129, 2007
FauxFaux
There's a whole load of cases where the merge doesn't make sense, too, I have a list of them, but my database server is screwed right now, so you can't marvel at it.
2007-10-18 29143, 2007
jerbear
what is a release, then? shouldn't it be called "release id"?
2007-10-18 29112, 2007
FauxFaux
The words are used rather randomly! Read the wiki page on NGS.
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Crazee_Canuck
If anyone remembers the "NO Vote" bombing for the "Louis Armstrong and His Hot Five", feel free to add your approval to the edits listed in the last note at http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7627955
2007-10-18 29139, 2007
Crazee_Canuck
Perhaps http://tinyurl.com/39e75b would work as well (assuming I did the "advanced query" correctly)
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AlsMe
hey guys
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AlsMe
anyone here?
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2007-10-18 29102, 2007
AlsMe
ohh great! well, I'm looking all over the place for lossless audio
2007-10-18 29133, 2007
AlsMe
and I can't seem to find anything, I'm wondering if you just download normal mp3's or go for the good stuff?
2007-10-18 29145, 2007
AlsMe
(flac, wma) lossless audio
2007-10-18 29114, 2007
FauxFaux
You want us to tell you how not to suck a pirating music? Or you want shops that sell music for download?
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AlsMe
I'm looking for website-reasonably priced
2007-10-18 29113, 2007
AlsMe
where the money goes to the artist
2007-10-18 29123, 2007
AlsMe
but the key thing is that I need it lossless
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FauxFaux
I don't believe any major stores sell flac, probably easier to buy the cds and rip it yourself.
2007-10-18 29125, 2007
xlotlu_
xlotlu_ is now known as xlotlu
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AlsMe
well because the thing with a cd is that there's usually a few songs that you don't like on it
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AlsMe
so if that's why I like individual song purchases
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AlsMe
so that's why*... how do you normally get ur lossless audio?
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FauxFaux
I buy cds. <3
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ojnkpjg
bleep sells flac
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ojnkpjg
not for everything, but it's there for a bunch of albums
2007-10-18 29101, 2007
AlsMe
ohh great to hear
2007-10-18 29104, 2007
AlsMe
because I just picked up my first flac file today
2007-10-18 29120, 2007
FauxFaux
Bleep's average track price with mp3s means I could buy two tracks or a double-cd from amazon marketplace. :|
2007-10-18 29122, 2007
AlsMe
and the difference is incredible between that and a 128-256kbps audio file
2007-10-18 29149, 2007
AlsMe
maybe used music cd's off amazon are the way to go then
2007-10-18 29101, 2007
ojnkpjg
depends on what you're buying, i guess
2007-10-18 29106, 2007
FauxFaux
Mp3 really isn't that bad unless it was encoded by a drunk monkey.
2007-10-18 29116, 2007
AlsMe
I just find it's such a waste of material if you only store the song digitally, just personal prefference tho
2007-10-18 29133, 2007
AlsMe
I'm talking about with a cd case*
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ojnkpjg
bleep does have flac for some releases that are vinyl-only that are encoded from the masters
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ojnkpjg
which is awfully convenient
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FauxFaux
Vinyl, ah, yes. :p
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FauxFaux pokes juno.
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AlsMe
I recently bough myself an "echo indigo io" iunno if you guys heard it but...
2007-10-18 29128, 2007
AlsMe
it has something called sample rate
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AlsMe
and I'm confused as to what it does
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AlsMe
do you guys have any clue? sorry for sounding like a noob here
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ojnkpjg
speeds up/slows down the playback, i'd guess?
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ojnkpjg
if it lets you adjust it
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AlsMe
I can set the sample rate to 32,000 or 44,000
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ojnkpjg
oh
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ojnkpjg
44100 is what cd audio uses
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ojnkpjg
don't know what uses 32000
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AlsMe
48,000 or 88,000 or 96,000
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AlsMe
alright so I guess I don't really need to change it from 44,000
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ojnkpjg
not if you're playing cd audio
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AlsMe
great
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AlsMe
well thanks a lot
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AlsMe
I've just got so much of a problem, I'm basically throwing out all my old mp3's
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AlsMe
it's just not the same anymore, with my new headphones (Sennheiser hd 485)
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AlsMe
what do you normally listen to your audio through?
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FauxFaux has some nice sennheissers, but still fails abysmally at abx testes at anything over about 192k mp3.
It's basically, can you tell the difference without cheating.
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AlsMe
yes I can
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AlsMe
it depends on what your amp can produce tho
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FauxFaux
You sound so certain.
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AlsMe
once I got the hd 485 headphones.. ohh I became certain
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AlsMe
I hear the sound of heaven
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brianfreud
I can, even on crappy speakers, but only up to about 280 (or V0). 320 or lossless is a waste of space to me
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FauxFaux
I think the fact that I refuse to listen to anything with those nasty instruments that have, like, bits of string in them probably helps.
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AlsMe
lol.. every song sounds difference now
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AlsMe
320 is perfect for me
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brianfreud
320 cbr?
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AlsMe
maybe it's because I'm young and my eyes are still able to pick up all those sounds
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FauxFaux
Eeew cbr.
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ojnkpjg
i got a pair of sennheiser hd 590s and i can hear the difference between 320cbr and lossless for some stuff
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AlsMe
and try the hd 485's
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FauxFaux
Listen to music that consists of sine-waves, dammit. >.<
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brianfreud
run mp3packer on any 320 cbr file - you'll find it's really the identical audio to about a 280 to 292 vbr file.
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brianfreud
just more wastefully encoded
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brianfreud
and 280-292 = V0 (abx)
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brianfreud
apx, I mean
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FauxFaux
One of my, like, top five tracks of all time is something like 14kbps on disc, trackers ftw.
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brianfreud
sole exception is some rare opera and classical, which comes out around 305 - but that's also the same result you get with a V0 preset :P
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FauxFaux
Eeew, strings!
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brianfreud
oboe :D
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FauxFaux
Hobo!
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brianfreud
lol
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FauxFaux
I'm trying to remember what that program that generates graphs of where the bits were going in ogg files was, 'cos they were pretty.
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brianfreud
even I have my exceptions tho... lol. All Mozart I have gets encoded as vorbis -q0, which is massive overkill at ~500 vbr bitrate :P
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AlsMe
true man
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FauxFaux wonders where the script to generate http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/music_quality_report.html went.
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AlsMe
I got my sennheiser headphones yesterday, and people were telling me that I've gotta get through the break-in period
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AlsMe
what does that possibly mean? and why is that useful?
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FauxFaux
Spaceships!
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brianfreud
seriously though AlsMe, if you're encoding everything at 320 cbr, run mp3packer on the lot. In normal mode, you'll end up with about 10% more free space, at 0 quality loss - in extremely slow mode (where it does *everything* to repack), you'll get 15% to 20% of the total space back, all without a bit's worth of quality being lost
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AlsMe
alright thanks
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ojnkpjg
disk space is cheaper these days than the time it takes to rip something twice
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ojnkpjg
so why not just rip it losslessly and be done with it forever
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ojnkpjg
or until your disks die on you
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AlsMe
yea, because I'm putting together a 4TB file server
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AlsMe
so I may just keep it lossless
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FauxFaux
You clearly have too much money. :p
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AlsMe
or I'm a serious computer nerds lol
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brianfreud
I would rather rip to the limits of my ability to hear the difference - and I can hear far outside the "normal" frequency range for most people....
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FauxFaux
The guy who lives upstairs rips flac, vorbis-3 /and/ mp3-192kcbr, now that's a good use of disk space. :p
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AlsMe
drives are cheap these days anyways
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brianfreud
at a certain point, in blind tests, no matter the song, lossless becomes indistinguishable to me - why waste the extra space, considering as I get older, my hearing will get worse, not better?
