or, you do sort them, but always by the track number
2008-01-14 01407, 2008
pronik
would suffice for most cases, it's a lot better than current unsorted view
2008-01-14 01445, 2008
pronik
maybe we should put the poor-man-solution in now and plan the done-right-version later on?
2008-01-14 01453, 2008
luks
no
2008-01-14 01443, 2008
luks
if I get track list "4 - Asomqew, 2 - Bwerw, 10 - Cwrwer, 1 - Dwrwer" then it's definitely not better than unsorted view
2008-01-14 01451, 2008
pronik
I don't have picard open currently, it seemed to work better than this yesterday
2008-01-14 01409, 2008
pronik
oh, well
2008-01-14 01429, 2008
pronik
then I'd have to dig into model/view code ;)
2008-01-14 01442, 2008
luks
and c++ code, and sip bindings, ... :)
2008-01-14 01400, 2008
luks
as I said, the model in python is too slow
2008-01-14 01455, 2008
pronik
a nice exercise ;)
2008-01-14 01426, 2008
pronik
or maybe pypy will get faster than cpython before that ;)
2008-01-14 01440, 2008
luks
I've written the "item view" code in picard in every possible way
2008-01-14 01402, 2008
luks
the current one is very limited, but the only acceptable solution
2008-01-14 01451, 2008
pronik
so it boils down to different sorting orders and columns for each tree level, doesn't it?
2008-01-14 01457, 2008
luks
yep
2008-01-14 01416, 2008
luks
well, in simple case to not sorting at certain level
2008-01-14 01427, 2008
pronik
defined as (level1 = (AscendingOrder, AlphaNumSorting), level2 = (DescendingOrder, TrackSorting), level3 = (RandomOrder, NoSorting))
2008-01-14 01458, 2008
luks
there is no level3, I hope :)
2008-01-14 01447, 2008
luks
hm, there is, so it should not be based on levels
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vincentrichter
Wow, what the hell was THAT
2008-01-14 01416, 2008
luks
everything except tracks should be sorted according to the selected column
2008-01-14 01420, 2008
pronik
third level is under "clusters"?
2008-01-14 01429, 2008
luks
tracks should always be sorted by the track number
2008-01-14 01435, 2008
vincentrichter
Did anyone else have anything unusual happen in the past five minutes?
2008-01-14 01440, 2008
luks
nope
2008-01-14 01455, 2008
vincentrichter
My laptop just locked tight
2008-01-14 01408, 2008
vincentrichter
No heat warning, no alarm, just WHAM
2008-01-14 01424, 2008
pronik
vincentrichter: depends on where you are ;)
2008-01-14 01424, 2008
vincentrichter
"Uhhh... why is everything closing..."
2008-01-14 01428, 2008
vincentrichter
heh
2008-01-14 01440, 2008
vincentrichter
I guess so
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CatCat wonders if vincentrichter has been eating some funky coloured pills lately
2008-01-14 01408, 2008
CatCat
:p
2008-01-14 01438, 2008
vincentrichter
CatCat: I took the blue pill AND the red pill.
2008-01-14 01451, 2008
vincentrichter
CatCat: Was I not supposed to do that???
2008-01-14 01414, 2008
vincentrichter
It's funny, though, because CatCat replied just as "Faster Kill Pussycat" came up on my playlist. :-D
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vincentrichter
mudcrow: You there?
2008-01-14 01443, 2008
mudcrow
yep
2008-01-14 01450, 2008
vincentrichter
Cool
2008-01-14 01459, 2008
vincentrichter
That data track on Class of '99
2008-01-14 01406, 2008
vincentrichter
Is it visible to a regular CD player?
2008-01-14 01458, 2008
vincentrichter
Like if I put it into a cheap-o Discman one-off and tried to play that track, would I get to thoroughly enjoy having my ears bleed?
2008-01-14 01409, 2008
mudcrow
no idea, the info on discogs lists 8 tracks and mentions a cd-data track, we have the same release with 9 tracks, with last track as [unknown]
2008-01-14 01417, 2008
vincentrichter
hrm
2008-01-14 01421, 2008
vincentrichter
Sounds like they're the same
2008-01-14 01443, 2008
vincentrichter
The last track should definitely be [data track] if that applies though, otherwise it gets yanked.
2008-01-14 01447, 2008
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mudcrow
looks to be the same, especially as the last unknown track has no TRMs or PUIDs attached
2008-01-14 01457, 2008
vincentrichter
heh
2008-01-14 01404, 2008
vincentrichter
I guess the logic is like this
2008-01-14 01437, 2008
vincentrichter
If there's something on the track that might cause me grievous bodily injury just from playing it in my CD player, I might like to know about it, yes? :-D
2008-01-14 01406, 2008
vincentrichter
*screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech*
2008-01-14 01409, 2008
vincentrichter
Case in point.
2008-01-14 01452, 2008
vincentrichter
Meh, I voted Yes to all your other edits, I'll just puss out and Abstain on this one. :-P
2008-01-14 01400, 2008
mudcrow
it should not affect you playing the CD in a normal cd player. the cd player will not see the track. and any trailing data tracks should be removed from MB entries
2008-01-14 01446, 2008
vincentrichter
"Note, however, that if the data track comes last on the CD *and isn't visible in an audio CD player*, the track should not be entered into MusicBrainz."
2008-01-14 01451, 2008
vincentrichter
That's my concern.
2008-01-14 01409, 2008
vincentrichter
It seems to be both/and, not either/or.
2008-01-14 01424, 2008
mudcrow
i've never known a data track to be visible in a normal cd player
2008-01-14 01427, 2008
vincentrichter
Which reignites an old debate! AHAHAHAHAHA!
2008-01-14 01435, 2008
vincentrichter
Ahem. Sorry.
2008-01-14 01447, 2008
vincentrichter
My maniacal side tends to break out of his cage once in a while.
2008-01-14 01450, 2008
mudcrow
and I'm not going to check every one to see if they are :p
2008-01-14 01457, 2008
vincentrichter
We don't let him out often, the last time we did... well
2008-01-14 01411, 2008
vincentrichter
Remember Napoleon at Waterloo? Yeah, that was *his doing*.
2008-01-14 01440, 2008
vincentrichter
:-D
2008-01-14 01451, 2008
vincentrichter
Oh pweese
2008-01-14 01411, 2008
vincentrichter
Would ewe pweese make your widdle ears bweed one time so we can be sure?
2008-01-14 01414, 2008
vincentrichter
:-D
2008-01-14 01432, 2008
vincentrichter
Not that it's a bad idea or anything. ;)
2008-01-14 01440, 2008
mudcrow
that usually happens listening to the music, data would probably sound nicer
2008-01-14 01423, 2008
vincentrichter
Boo. Data fan here.
2008-01-14 01429, 2008
vincentrichter
I mean trance. TRANCE fan here.
2008-01-14 01430, 2008
vincentrichter
Dammit.
2008-01-14 01406, 2008
vincentrichter
Screw it, voting Yes. XD
2008-01-14 01428, 2008
vincentrichter
Fastest click in the West! :-D
2008-01-14 01448, 2008
mudcrow
lol, thanks
2008-01-14 01438, 2008
vincentrichter
OMG
2008-01-14 01441, 2008
vincentrichter
You have a stalker.
2008-01-14 01452, 2008
vincentrichter
"plus 1 anonymous subscriber"
2008-01-14 01414, 2008
vincentrichter
They don't want you to know who they are, hehehe
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warp
< mudcrow> i've never known a data track to be visible in a normal cd player
2008-01-14 01420, 2008
warp
i've seen them as the first track, not sure if I've ever come across a final data track which is visible in a cd playe.r.
2008-01-14 01408, 2008
vincentrichter
Hello Warp, you have a collect call from...
2008-01-14 01419, 2008
vincentrichter
"Fifteen minutes ago."
2008-01-14 01428, 2008
vincentrichter
Would you be willing to accept the charges?
2008-01-14 01429, 2008
vincentrichter
:-D
2008-01-14 01428, 2008
vincentrichter
Message will repeat until charges are accepted or the line is disconnected. Message number 20, CK.
2008-01-14 01412, 2008
vincentrichter
I know I shouldn't tempt the ops like that. XD
2008-01-14 01431, 2008
vincentrichter gets a /kick *CLICK*
2008-01-14 01438, 2008
vincentrichter
:-D
2008-01-14 01422, 2008
mudcrow
warp: as yet no-ones figured a way of sticking data tracks on vinyl, so i have that many of them
2008-01-14 01406, 2008
koolatron
There is timecode vinyl, meant for scratching on turntables hooked up to computers.
2008-01-14 01424, 2008
koolatron
But I don't think that's precisely the same thing
2008-01-14 01450, 2008
vincentrichter
Actually, it's possible, but it's a really bad idea.
2008-01-14 01415, 2008
vincentrichter
Never give a newbie a 45 and tell them to put it in the PC just to see what happens.
2008-01-14 01435, 2008
vincentrichter
It's not pretty trying to get plastic-crap off your CPU's heatsink block.
2008-01-14 01436, 2008
koolatron
That's the point where you can re-sell the PC for its art value
2008-01-14 01408, 2008
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vincentrichter
Depends on the vinyl, PC, and spatter. :)
2008-01-14 01413, 2008
koolatron
Anyone here know the particulars of generating fingerprints for song recognition?
2008-01-14 01425, 2008
warp
mudcrow: LP-ROM \o/
2008-01-14 01452, 2008
CatCat declares that vincentrichter has served enough of his portion of the "absurdium-pie" for THIS WEEK
2008-01-14 01453, 2008
CatCat
kthnx
2008-01-14 01409, 2008
CatCat
everybody knows, *I'M* the weirdo in this chan
2008-01-14 01426, 2008
CatCat
bwhaaaaarr!
2008-01-14 01429, 2008
CatCat
also hi warp
2008-01-14 01436, 2008
vincentrichter
CatCat: Not while I still have my plushie Kiba-kun you're not!
2008-01-14 01442, 2008
warp
hello catcat :)
2008-01-14 01406, 2008
CatCat
I'll be coming at'cha like a cockney geezer!
2008-01-14 01431, 2008
CatCat
I'm nu rave i'm bu rave!
2008-01-14 01454, 2008
CatCat
Elements of the past and the future, combining to make something not quite as good as either!
