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      • yllona
        the language used there was called SAIL, which is still maintained at stanford.edu (or was maintained until very recently)
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      • yllona looks for the SAIL repository
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      • acid2
        this is with this sonar processing ai?
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      • stochasticism has quit
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      • yllona
        yes.
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      • acid2
        also yllona, would you be able to have a scan through my cl-musicbrainz library and see how it could be improved/more lispy?
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      • acid2
        Cool, don't think I've seen source code that's nearly 40 years old :)
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      • yllona
        acid2: i could try. haven't done real lisp in *years*
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      • acid2
        haha, sure - but a second set of eyes is always good :)
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      • acid2
        this isn't advanced lisp at all even, just pushing data around really
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      • yllona
        acid2: SAIL (Stanford Artificial Intelligence laboratory): http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictur…
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      • acid2
        thanks
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      • duckman has quit
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      • yllona
        acid2: you'll love the work done by bruce baumgarten (includes AI and robotics): http://www.baumgart.org/
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      • Kerensky97_work has quit
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      • acid2
        hmm, photos link isn't loading
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      • yllona
        works for me...
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      • yllona
        you mean the sail photos of the labe from 1969-75?
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      • yllona
        *lab?
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      • chefkoch_ joined the channel
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      • chefkoch has quit
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      • yllona
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      • acid2
        ah, that works
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      • acid2
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      • acid2
        looks like a cool bunch :)
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      • CatCat
        rawr
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Creedence Clearwater Revival ~ I Put a Spell on You (4:32) (from Creedence Clearwater Revival) (1968)
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      • acid2
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      • acid2
        sorry, let me paste that with some colouring
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      • CatCat
        im sorry but i dont understand why all the coding languages are given such silly names
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      • CatCat
        i mean "lisp"
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      • CatCat
        <:)
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      • yllona
        acid2: this looks good i can pul it into a lisp aware editor if i need more formatting. i love the coipus comments
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      • acid2
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      • acid2
        coipus?
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      • acid2 looks word up
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      • yllona
        *copious
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      • yllona
        sorry, my typo
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      • CatCat
        huhuh copius, copulus, copulation :D
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      • acid2
        oh xD
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      • acid2
        Well, still don't know copious, heh
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      • CatCat
        many afaik
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      • acid2
        ah, lots
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      • CatCat
        same root as "copy"
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      • CatCat
        i think
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      • acid2
        I like the backend of the code, with the resource opening - but I don't like the (defun artist-name) etc, seems so repetative. but it seemed overkill to introduce a class or something, because this would mean parsing all the xml at once, which is not necessarily what the user would want
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      • yllona
        acid2: there might be a more efficient way to create the URL string as well
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      • CatCat
        i need to go to bed
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      • CatCat
        have fun coding
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      • acid2
        natta mo!
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      • CatCat
        natta!
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      • acid2
        .It was originally a set stirngs passed to (concatenate), but the guys in #lisp suggested format
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      • yllona
        acid2: but you've discover the love of lists in LISP, so don't let me stop you
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      • acid2
        which I agree with, for brevity mainly
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      • yllona
        acid2: this looks good, very readable -- which is important. you can optimize once it's working (well).
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      • acid2
        Yea, I try and take that approach
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      • yllona
        which compiler are you using?
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      • acid2
        sbcl
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      • acid2
        steelbank
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      • yllona
        ah, i still have an old version of allegro
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      • acid2
        I didn't really consider other options, am aware of them - but seeing as I'm so new, I just grabbed a popular one
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      • acid2
        I wonder how well it works across implementations
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      • acid2
        shit, I've got to go and do my laundry... at 11pm lol
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      • yllona
        you're not doing anything specialized to specific environment, that i can see
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      • acid2
        Knew I forgot something important, haha - back in 10mins
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      • acid2
        Yup, gotta stick standard - I don't know anything SBCL specific :-)
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      • nikki_ always does washing in the middle of the night :P
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      • acid2
        least there's no congestion for machines :P
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      • nikki_
        exactly!
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      • nikki_
        250 people and three washing machines... x_X
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      • FauxFaux
        Unfortunately it wakes one of my housemates up. ¬_¬
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      • nikki_
        give them more alcohol or sleeping tablets
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      • FauxFaux
        Giving him more alcohol is expensive and fruitless, unfortunately. =p
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      • acid2
        FauxFaux: you are blessed with your own machine?!
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      • FauxFaux
        Possibly due to excessive alcohol poisioning.
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      • acid2
        truely, you are amongst the gods
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      • FauxFaux
        acid2: It costs something like £10/mo to rent a washing machine..
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      • acid2
        faux - don't have the option of that here
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      • acid2
        on campus
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      • nikki_
        which uni?
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      • FauxFaux
        Unlucky.
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      • acid2
        lancaster, uk
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      • nikki_
        ah
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      • FauxFaux
        My sister's got an offer from there.
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      • nikki_
        I considered it
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      • nikki_
        but they wanted english language
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      • acid2
        It's a nice place, nightlife a bit quiet
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      • acid2
        which can be a plus, I spose
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      • nikki_
        which year are you in?
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      • acid2
        1st
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      • nikki_
        ah right
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      • acid2
        been here since oct
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      • nikki_
        did you not go to uni straight from school/college or are you way younger than I thought?
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      • FauxFaux
        Young whippersnappers!
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      • acid2
        haha
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      • acid2
        I'm 18
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      • nikki_
        way younger than I thought...
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      • acid2
        How old did you think I was? :)
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      • nikki_
        20 something
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      • acid2
        ok, not too old :P
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      • FauxFaux
        Right, that's enough of [mb-style], fucking spammers, the lot of you. :P
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      • nikki_ is at ucl...
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      • acid2
        ok, washing sorted, back in a moment
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      • nikki_
        don't mention how cheap your accommodation is or I'll... I'll...
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      • nikki_
        I'll do something!
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      • acid2
        cheap?!
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      • acid2
        aw hell no
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      • nikki_ is paying £98 a week
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      • FauxFaux
        As far as I can tell, if you're not in Coventry, I get to laugh at you anywa.
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      • nikki_
        with a bathroom and kitchen shared between 20 people
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      • acid2
        pounds or dollers was that, my charset is messed up it seems
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      • nikki_
        pounds
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      • FauxFaux
        Lbs.
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      • acid2
        ok, that's bad :P
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      • nikki_
        you need more unicode :P
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      • acid2
        Irssi + poor setup
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      • acid2
        Need to get ERC back up :)
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      • FauxFaux
        58. \o/
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      • acid2
        I'm on 86 a week, very shitty broken accomodation, but it is ensuite
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      • acid2
        Kitchen shared between 7 of us
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      • FauxFaux imagines nikki_ and flatmates cruising around their palace.
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      • nikki_
        I was in some en suite accommodation last term, 133 quid a week
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      • nikki_
        palace?
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      • nikki_
        yeah right :P
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      • chefkoch_ has quit
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      • acid2
        that's what you get for being in london!
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      • nikki_
        yeah :(
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      • FauxFaux
        I'm sure it's worth it for all the local entertainment that you can probably afford.
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      • nikki_
        like?
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      • FauxFaux
        London is full of that kind of thing, amirite?
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      • MrQwerty has quit
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      • nikki_ isn't sure
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      • acid2
        London is drum & bass HEAVEN
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      • acid2
        wanna swap? :P
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      • nikki_
        nah :P
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      • yllona
        are those prices just housing? or are class fees included?
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      • FauxFaux
        Just housing.
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      • yllona
        *yikes*
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      • FauxFaux
        Probably including bills, though, on their prices.
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      • yllona
        i shared a suite with one roommate at university. our own bathroom and kitchenette. laundry in the basement about 10 washers and dryers. one load $.25 wash and $.10 to dry.
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      • drsaunde
        acid2: I thought that was Bristol
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      • FauxFaux
        I bet the water and electricity that our washing machine uses costs more than that, yllona. =p
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      • yllona
        all utilities included
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      • acid2
        drsaunde: Hmm, more london atm, from all the email-flyers I get
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      • acid2
        it's 1.60 a wash here, 1.00 a dry (uk sterling, 'course)