So so much that needs tagging that I'm not even going to introduce it to my library until it's tagged immaculately
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
FauxFaux
Since I bought my new machine, foobar default search is fast enough for find as you type again. \o/
2008-02-15 04650, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: that's the one thing about foobar I'm missing atm, heh
2008-02-15 04657, 2008
Muzzz
Kerensky97: admittedly I've never tried WMP11 for library management, I got too pissed off at WMP10
2008-02-15 04644, 2008
cooperaa
Muzzz: how can you live with untagged/un-MBIDed files?
2008-02-15 04655, 2008
Muzzz
They sit on a seperate partitiion :)
2008-02-15 04611, 2008
Muzzz
It doesn't go into my Music folder until it's tagged and whathaveyou
2008-02-15 04618, 2008
Muzzz
Filenames need to be correct too
2008-02-15 04627, 2008
cooperaa
do you listen to them?
2008-02-15 04634, 2008
Muzzz
The majority of them yeah
2008-02-15 04636, 2008
cooperaa
that's the problem I had, I never listened to untagged files
2008-02-15 04638, 2008
FauxFaux can't listen to htem. =p
2008-02-15 04642, 2008
cooperaa
*never used to listen...
2008-02-15 04645, 2008
Muzzz
Untagged files aren't listened to yet though
2008-02-15 04650, 2008
cooperaa
now I have it all tagged and just add new albums as they come in
2008-02-15 04609, 2008
aCiD2
uhh... can xterm be made to display unicode without blowing up?
2008-02-15 04627, 2008
Muzzz
Yes, can't remember the command though off the top of myhead
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
Muzzz has his xterm at work displaying unicode fine
2008-02-15 04601, 2008
FauxFaux
echo -ne '\e%G\e[?47h\e%G\e[?47l'
2008-02-15 04645, 2008
aCiD2
uhh, what?
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
cooperaa
does foobar do track/album ratings?
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
aCiD2
cooperaa: with foo_rating, yes
2008-02-15 04604, 2008
cooperaa
cool
2008-02-15 04611, 2008
Muzzz
Mine doesn't because I don't use them :D
2008-02-15 04622, 2008
`duckman joined the channel
2008-02-15 04631, 2008
cooperaa uses ratings so he can just hit play and let his media player pick the songs he should be listening to
2008-02-15 04640, 2008
aCiD2 has never had luck with that
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
FauxFaux
aCiD2: Put that in your ~/.$SHELL_profile file, it tells the terminal to go into utf-8 mode (ie. when you're using default putty over ssh etc.)
2008-02-15 04600, 2008
cooperaa
once you get the majority of your good stuff rated... it's just a matter of setting up a good playlists
2008-02-15 04637, 2008
FauxFaux
I should use ratings, but I'd be able to do album ratings just by typing in the names of about three serieses of cds (bet Muzzz can guess them) and giving them five star, and everything else 1. :P
2008-02-15 04651, 2008
cooperaa has 15,286/24,322 songs rated
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: an echo can enable unicode?
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
Muzzz
FauxFaux: heh
2008-02-15 04657, 2008
aCiD2
neat :)
2008-02-15 04659, 2008
petros
cooperaa: Foobar can be severely extended with plugins. It can be slimmer than Kate Moss and Twiggy's lovechild or more obese than Rush Limbaugh's rhetorics
2008-02-15 04612, 2008
FauxFaux
aCiD2: It's a telnet (or, at least, the same family) thing, iirc.
2008-02-15 04615, 2008
ruaok
woah!
2008-02-15 04629, 2008
Muzzz
petros: hahaha
2008-02-15 04630, 2008
cooperaa
petros: that's the problem I had with foobar... a lot of work to find out what you need
2008-02-15 04634, 2008
duckman has quit
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Muzzz
ruaok: you sound surprised?
2008-02-15 04652, 2008
aCiD2
Life's one big surprise for rob :)
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
ruaok
that comment was directed at petros ' comment.
2008-02-15 04600, 2008
Muzzz
cooperaa: thing is, it's much like winamp, except it doesn't ship with a tonne of useless shit that you don't use/need by default
2008-02-15 04647, 2008
stochasticism has quit
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petros
cooperaa: fair point. It found the component page and links to be easy enough to get a good overview of what I might like. And the config seemed pretty easy.
2008-02-15 04655, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: did that, and then source'd it - ncmp still won't display accented e's and a's though :(
2008-02-15 04625, 2008
aCiD2
"Error: Unable to convert characters to ANSI_X3.4-1968" from ncmpc, so maybe that's the problem
2008-02-15 04635, 2008
petros
ruaok: Heh. I tend to use examples like those. Gets the point across ;)
2008-02-15 04644, 2008
ruaok
works for me.
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
petros has quit
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cooperaa
petros: foobar looks very nice (in many user's screenshots) but I could never get mine to that point... doesn't really matter now though. I listen to my iPod for almost 8 hours a day so it's slick integration with iTunes is what's most important right now
2008-02-15 04646, 2008
cooperaa
(and that's one reason why I quit using Amarok... very buggy iPod integration/transcoding)
2008-02-15 04609, 2008
Tykling has left the channel
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aCiD2
ok, beddy time, natta!
2008-02-15 04647, 2008
ruaok
natta aCiD2
2008-02-15 04655, 2008
Muzzz -> sleep
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Kanmu has quit
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aCiD2 has quit
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ruaok
looks like its bet time for the UK wankers
2008-02-15 04604, 2008
ruaok
*bed
2008-02-15 04637, 2008
Muzzz isn't a wanker, he has a girlfriend to satisfy him!
2008-02-15 04638, 2008
cooperaa
anyone know if you're charged long distance for receiving a long distance call?
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
cooperaa
(on a cell phone)
2008-02-15 04655, 2008
ruaok
halfway across the country no?
2008-02-15 04608, 2008
ruaok
cooperaa: no typically.
2008-02-15 04619, 2008
ruaok
but here in the US you get charged airtime for receving a call.
2008-02-15 04622, 2008
ruaok
not so in europe.
2008-02-15 04628, 2008
cooperaa
so if I have unlimited nights/weekends, my parents can call me long distance and I wouldn't get any changes?
2008-02-15 04630, 2008
cooperaa
charges*
2008-02-15 04639, 2008
ruaok
yep.
2008-02-15 04643, 2008
cooperaa
sweet
2008-02-15 04648, 2008
ruaok
if you have unlimited long distance, you should call them,.
2008-02-15 04651, 2008
ruaok
save them money.
2008-02-15 04609, 2008
cooperaa
I hoped so... but would've been quite pissed if they called and I got charged for it
2008-02-15 04636, 2008
cooperaa
only have unlimited long distance between my account's phones
2008-02-15 04652, 2008
yllona has quit
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cooperaa
hmmm... what instrument should I use for this? "Horn (cor)"
yeah, and he generated an email for every edit so it seems. :)
2008-02-15 04653, 2008
cooperaa
wow
2008-02-15 04653, 2008
dholmes_
A small price to pay, surely
2008-02-15 04613, 2008
FauxFaux
Heh.
2008-02-15 04658, 2008
cooperaa wishes we had a "Text to AR" converter...
2008-02-15 04607, 2008
brianfreud
how so?
2008-02-15 04631, 2008
cooperaa
SoAndSo performed Piano on [selected tracks]
2008-02-15 04647, 2008
cooperaa
SoAndSo additionally composed [selected tracks]
2008-02-15 04651, 2008
FauxFaux
(feat.)
2008-02-15 04602, 2008
brianfreud
lol, sounds actually rather like what I’ve been trying to figure out all day
2008-02-15 04605, 2008
cooperaa
like a text box to type them out
2008-02-15 04629, 2008
dholmes_
I'd like that, with IntelliSense too
2008-02-15 04610, 2008
dholmes_
So it drops down menus when you start typinh each part of the sentence
2008-02-15 04615, 2008
cooperaa wikis IntelliSense and says "cool"
2008-02-15 04639, 2008
cooperaa
but it could be just like the "Relate to..." lookup we have
2008-02-15 04658, 2008
cooperaa
once you type in a name and then enter an AR word like performed/composed/produced/etc
2008-02-15 04603, 2008
brianfreud
ok, for the geniuses like FauxFaux, a challenge. I still cannot figure out how to take this input and make it into a nice, useful array
2008-02-15 04605, 2008
cooperaa
it would put the lookup below the name
2008-02-15 04613, 2008
dholmes_
Yeah
2008-02-15 04628, 2008
dholmes_
Just combine that with the ability to do it for a whole sentence instead of the last part ;)
2008-02-15 04651, 2008
brianfreud
same XML has both; the top is ARs+names, mixed, plus tracks-all-together. the bottom is separate in the xml, track by itself, roles, name. http://musicbrainz.pastebin.com/d124189ba
best case, I would like to end up with arrayPerson[name][role, track]
2008-02-15 04637, 2008
brianfreud
yes, need to transform both halves into an array in js
2008-02-15 04616, 2008
brianfreud
(a separate array of just array[roles] would be useful too...)
2008-02-15 04632, 2008
FauxFaux can't remember how the xml stuff works in javascript at all. :/
2008-02-15 04636, 2008
brianfreud
lol
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
brianfreud
I can handle the code end, but the logic of how to parse it I’m blocking on
2008-02-15 04633, 2008
FauxFaux
In theory, it'd be painfully simple with any xml parser.
2008-02-15 04632, 2008
brianfreud
well, yes, to just feed each of the three into an array. But not to split the <tracks>1 to 5, 8, 11</tracks> into <track>1</track><track>2</track> etc and still keep the values...
2008-02-15 04659, 2008
brianfreud
nor the multiple roles within the same <role>foo, foo, foo</role>
2008-02-15 04623, 2008
FauxFaux
Surely those are just .split(", "), or whatever js calls it?
2008-02-15 04602, 2008
brianfreud
yes, I can split on the commas, and check for “1 to 10” and transform that,
2008-02-15 04616, 2008
brianfreud
but how to actually combine together into some reasonable array?
2008-02-15 04646, 2008
brianfreud
At some point, I will need the user to ID what AR each unknown role is talking about, and to match each artist to an MB artist.
2008-02-15 04656, 2008
brianfreud
I’d like them to only have to do that once for each role and artist
2008-02-15 04614, 2008
FauxFaux doesn't understand what you mean, sorry. :/
2008-02-15 04620, 2008
brianfreud
ok
2008-02-15 04649, 2008
FauxFaux
I'm stupidly tired despite having got up about eight hours ago, too. /me -> get some food.
2008-02-15 04610, 2008
brianfreud
parse in [person, role, track] over and over. That’s easy. But then how to combine it together, so that instead of, say, Tori Amos having 29 entries in the array, I can index them all to one Tori Amos.
2008-02-15 04616, 2008
cooperaa
goddammit!
2008-02-15 04626, 2008
brianfreud
Trying to do kind of a bubble-combine *shrug*
2008-02-15 04630, 2008
cooperaa
I'm going to need some Yes votes to clean up some ARs I added to the wrong tracks... :(
2008-02-15 04653, 2008
FauxFaux
You mean, you want a map of, say, your_variable["Tori Amos"] = an Array(thing1, thing2)? JS can do that.
2008-02-15 04627, 2008
brianfreud
how?
2008-02-15 04647, 2008
brianfreud is only thinking of wildly unhelpful O ways to do it