ok, now you need to find something with a supersuperwork
2008-02-20 05149, 2008
yllona
xlo i can easily come up with more complex naming schemes than this... start with heitor vill-lobos and the Chôros
2008-02-20 05157, 2008
brianfreud
Supersuperwork: Superwork: work: container: movement (types+tempos) :D
2008-02-20 05134, 2008
xlotlu
that would actually make sense. as many colons as it takes...
2008-02-20 05146, 2008
yllona
you mean like like this?
2008-02-20 05147, 2008
brianfreud
actually, thinking about it a minute, isn't the Ring Cycle a superwork?
2008-02-20 05150, 2008
yllona is listening to Sowande: African Suite (1944): I. Joyful Day (Allegro giocoso) - II. Nostalgia (Andante) - III. Lullaby (Andate cantabile e sostenuto) - IV. Onipe (Andante; con tenerezza) - V. Akinla (Allegro non troppo) by CBC Vancouver Orchestra; Mario Bernardi, Conductor from Milhaud; Maurice; Forsyth; Sowande (1994) (0:21 / 24:52.947998046875)
2008-02-20 05110, 2008
xlotlu
yup
2008-02-20 05116, 2008
yllona
heh, i have dozens if not hundreds of these, that's why i stopped doing CSG stuff, it doesn't work for my collection
2008-02-20 05117, 2008
brianfreud
lol, this is what I was referring to:
2008-02-20 05123, 2008
brianfreud
Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op. 125 "Choral": IV. Recitative. Presto - allegro ma non troppo - vivace - adagio cantabile - allegro assai - presto "O Freunde" - allegro assai "Freude,
2008-02-20 05128, 2008
brianfreud
schöner Götterfunken" - alla marcia - allegro assai vivace "Froh, wie seine S
2008-02-20 05157, 2008
brianfreud
Sonnen" - andante maestoso "Seid umschlungen, Millionen!" - adagio ma non troppo, ma divoto "Ihr, stürzt nieder" - allegro energico, sempre ben marcato "Freude, schöner Götterfunken" - "Seid umschlungen, Millionen!" - allegro ma non tanto "Freude, Tochter aus Elysium!" - prestissimo "Seid umschlungen, Millionen!"
2008-02-20 05101, 2008
xlotlu
yllona: i missed that. the choros is simple
2008-02-20 05111, 2008
yllona
here's some mahler for you...
2008-02-20 05115, 2008
yllona is listening to Das Lied Von Der Erde: I. Das Trinklied Von Jammer Der Erde - II. Der Einsame Im Herbst - III. Von Der Jugend - IV. Von Der Schönheit - V. Der Trunkene Im Frühling - VI. Der Abschied by Gustav Mahler from Mahler: Das Lied Von Der Erde (1982) (0:24 / 69:21.98876953125)
2008-02-20 05135, 2008
yllona
pr ...
2008-02-20 05139, 2008
yllona
or ...
2008-02-20 05142, 2008
yllona is listening to Symphony No. 4 in G Major: I. Heiter, bedächtig. Nicht eilen - II. In germächlicher Bewegung. Ohne Hast - III. Ruhevoll - IV. Sehr behaglich by Gustav Mahler from Mahler: Symphony No. 4 in G Major (1992) (0:14 / 58:8.123046875)
be interested to see if people can break it (like the superwork), irregardless of the whole "CSG/no CSG" debater
2008-02-20 05138, 2008
yllona
and the choros are *not* simple
2008-02-20 05133, 2008
xlotlu
they're just opus: tempo - tempo -tempo ...
2008-02-20 05104, 2008
brianfreud
actually, the ones I find hardest to parse aren't complicated in of themselves
2008-02-20 05106, 2008
xlotlu
(afaik)
2008-02-20 05129, 2008
yllona
umm, not have you heard them all? or just 8 & 9 (the most often recorded)
2008-02-20 05130, 2008
brianfreud
the hardest ones to parse, I think, are variations on another composer, where you're putting one entire CSG title in the middle of another
2008-02-20 05133, 2008
yllona
here's an example of one of the shorter villa-lobo song cycles
2008-02-20 05145, 2008
yllona is listening to Four Songs from the Forests of the Amazon (1958-1959): Veleiros (Sails) - Canção do Amor (Love Song) - Cair da Tarde (Twilight) - Melodia Sentimental (Sentimental Melody) by Heitor Villa-Lobos from Villa-Lobos: Songs (1993) (1:55 / 11:45.327026367188)
2008-02-20 05143, 2008
brianfreud challenges with 4:33 :D
2008-02-20 05153, 2008
xlotlu
if that's one track, then it should be Four Songs ..: No. 1 Veleiros / No. 2 [...]
2008-02-20 05148, 2008
xlotlu
brianfreud: what about those common names vs the uncommon tempos?
2008-02-20 05151, 2008
yllona
xlotlu: i have them both separate and combined. i like to listen to them as a entirety.
2008-02-20 05109, 2008
yllona
i have each song as "track" also
2008-02-20 05122, 2008
brianfreud
xlotlu, not sure what you mean..."Seid umschlungen, Millionen!" is a name, not a tempo
2008-02-20 05136, 2008
yllona
but they were written to be heard as one complete work
2008-02-20 05131, 2008
xlotlu
brianfreud: the Henze royal w.m. sonata
2008-02-20 05138, 2008
yllona
this piece is 12 songs..
2008-02-20 05147, 2008
yllona is listening to Mâkôcê cê Maká (Parici Lullaby) - Nozani Ná (Parici Drinking Song) - Papae Curimiassú (Caboclo Lullaby) by Heitor Villa-Lobos from Villa-Lobos: Songs (1993) (0:05 / 24:24.899047851562)
2008-02-20 05148, 2008
brianfreud
xlotlu: don't know it
2008-02-20 05102, 2008
yllona
i could only fit 4 into the ID3 tag
2008-02-20 05120, 2008
brianfreud
using 2.4?
2008-02-20 05127, 2008
xlotlu
yllona: i also rip the "special" music in a single track.. but never separately too, which makes for lots of huge mp3s on my hdd that i'll never be able to tag with MB :)
2008-02-20 05119, 2008
yllona
here's one of my favorite works by an american composer.
2008-02-20 05123, 2008
yllona is listening to Letter to the World: I. Because I See New Englandly - Introduction - Not Knowing When The Dawn Will Come - I Open Every Door - II. Ancestress - I'm Sorry For The Dead Today - It's Coming, The Postponeless Creature - Drums Of The Phantom Battlements, Corne by St. Stephen's Chamber Orchestra; Lorenzo Muti, Conductor from The North Carolinians (1993) (0:53 / 21:36.692993164062)
2008-02-20 05156, 2008
xlotlu is listening to Requiem by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart on Requiem D minor, K.626 [Amarok]
2008-02-20 05111, 2008
xlotlu
no need for more tagging ^^
2008-02-20 05124, 2008
brianfreud
:P
2008-02-20 05131, 2008
brianfreud
except it could be the other requiem :P
2008-02-20 05132, 2008
yllona
so you can see why i just gave up on MB CSG for 20th century works (especially)
2008-02-20 05146, 2008
yllona
brianfreud: yep...
2008-02-20 05153, 2008
xlotlu
[53:34] in case you were wondering :)
2008-02-20 05121, 2008
brianfreud
I tend to see 20th century classical as different, in that it's written these days with "real" titles much more in mind than in the baroque period
2008-02-20 05147, 2008
xlotlu
fork the CSG into MCSG?
2008-02-20 05154, 2008
yllona
xlotlu: the track duration for that work is going to cay greatly depending on conductor/orchestra.
2008-02-20 05122, 2008
brianfreud
xlotlu: more like only apply part of CSG, not the entire framework (3 part CSG, as I see/describe it)
2008-02-20 05150, 2008
yllona
so "Requiem by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart on Requiem D minor, K.626" tells me absolutely *nothing* other than it a random mozart composition
2008-02-20 05119, 2008
brianfreud
well, the 626 means something to me, lol, but technically, if you left that out, it could be 1 of 2
2008-02-20 05128, 2008
xlotlu
yllona: doesn't matter. the point is it's one track, and it will never get split. because a requiem movement sneaking lonely into a random playlist is heresy!
2008-02-20 05132, 2008
yllona
xlotlu: and i bet if you were to research early cinyl recordings you'd find that this work was split among several LPs or platters
2008-02-20 05144, 2008
xlotlu
and i couldn't care less about who conducted it or performed it. it still is the best i've heard yet
2008-02-20 05154, 2008
brianfreud has a version from nazi berlin which is split
2008-02-20 05109, 2008
xlotlu
yllona: it was actually my first classical vinyl
2008-02-20 05119, 2008
brianfreud
which is it?
2008-02-20 05139, 2008
yllona
the duration limit for vinyl was limited ~30 minutes per side (or less)
2008-02-20 05154, 2008
xlotlu
and my hand was always trembling rushing to turn the disc around, and wishing for my grandad's player that could play both sides
2008-02-20 05114, 2008
yllona
and why wouldn't you care about conductor or orchestra, it make all the difference in the world
2008-02-20 05134, 2008
yllona
that could have been a high school orchestra (for example)
2008-02-20 05123, 2008
xlotlu
then i deeply respect the highschool pupils that managed to pull off the best requiem performance i've heard
2008-02-20 05129, 2008
yllona
or the opera i heard last night "orfeo & eurydice" of course you'd want to know cast, orchestra and conductor
2008-02-20 05143, 2008
brianfreud
definitely... the nazi recording is quite interesting, but not the one I would want to listen to
2008-02-20 05101, 2008
brianfreud
8 full choirs + 4 full orchestras, all at the loudest damn forte you can imagine....
2008-02-20 05106, 2008
xlotlu
brianfreud: that's the overly excessive one?
2008-02-20 05108, 2008
brianfreud
the lacrimosa loses something, lol
2008-02-20 05112, 2008
brianfreud
yes
2008-02-20 05129, 2008
brianfreud
it's Mozart played like Wagner
2008-02-20 05140, 2008
yllona
brianfreud: the LA Opera is doing "recovered works" this season... music banned by the nazis. i've seen two thus far. simply mazing
2008-02-20 05143, 2008
brianfreud
best find I've made recently was Alexandre Krein's Songs from the Ghetto
also, i ran across a 2-disc album where one disc has album art and one does not... i figure that ought to be fixed
2008-02-20 05130, 2008
Svak
if this is the place to point that kind of thing out
2008-02-20 05144, 2008
brianfreud
sure, go for it :)
2008-02-20 05148, 2008
Aankhen`` joined the channel
2008-02-20 05159, 2008
brianfreud
ruaok: btw, I had to laugh... for a script that currently doesn't actually DO anything, and which has no description of what it does, that beta script has been installed more times than any other of mine except the CD Baby script (38 times, lol)
2008-02-20 05122, 2008
ruaok
a good sign for sure. strong work!
2008-02-20 05127, 2008
brianfreud
lol
2008-02-20 05137, 2008
brianfreud
wish I could figure out why this replace isn't working though...
2008-02-20 05153, 2008
Svak
it's the across the universe soundtrack deluxe edition
2008-02-20 05157, 2008
brianfreud
I'm one replace away from a moin <-> html <-> displayed html parser for the annotation
2008-02-20 05132, 2008
brianfreud
svak, you can add it in, go for it :)
2008-02-20 05150, 2008
brianfreud actually remembers voting that release in :P
2008-02-20 05155, 2008
Svak
i just found the page for it
2008-02-20 05104, 2008
Svak
took me a moment
2008-02-20 05106, 2008
brianfreud
see, I can handle parens... regexps though, I hate... (/\">/,"|")); !!!
2008-02-20 05123, 2008
ruaok
try me brianfreud
2008-02-20 05150, 2008
brianfreud
that ended up being it, but of anything, regexp notation makes me most annoyed
2008-02-20 05105, 2008
brianfreud
not knowing perl has its drawbacks
2008-02-20 05133, 2008
Svak
i'm not seeing a convenient "add album art" button, so would somebody be so kind as to point me in the right direction?
2008-02-20 05135, 2008
ruaok
perl != regexp
2008-02-20 05145, 2008
ruaok
get yer regexp down. that skill will go far.
2008-02-20 05145, 2008
brianfreud
I thought regexp notation came out of perl?
2008-02-20 05154, 2008
ruaok
no.
2008-02-20 05102, 2008
ruaok
I think it was more like sed and awk.
2008-02-20 05106, 2008
brianfreud
slowly getting there... some of the regexp stuff still makes my head spin though
2008-02-20 05116, 2008
brianfreud
figured it was less server costly to just write a HTML --> moin code parser, scrape the annotation the user already can see instead of making a behind the scenes extra page req
2008-02-20 05121, 2008
ruaok
who was the w in awk again?
2008-02-20 05148, 2008
ruaok
Weinberger
2008-02-20 05155, 2008
brianfreud
weinberger?
2008-02-20 05106, 2008
brianfreud
:D
2008-02-20 05111, 2008
ruaok
aho weinberger and kernighan.
2008-02-20 05119, 2008
brianfreud
:)
2008-02-20 05123, 2008
ruaok
a. and k. being gods in CS
2008-02-20 05146, 2008
brianfreud
yeah - I got 90% done writing this parser when I realized it could also be used to let people who are happier playing in HTML play with HTML instead :P
