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cizra joined the channel
2008-02-24 05512, 2008
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cizra
Hi
2008-02-24 05515, 2008
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cizra
I need some help.
2008-02-24 05526, 2008
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cizra
2008-02-24 05530, 2008
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cizra
and then forgot about it completely.
2008-02-24 05541, 2008
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yllona
help with what?
2008-02-24 05552, 2008
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cizra
2008-02-24 05556, 2008
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cizra
(notes)
2008-02-24 05518, 2008
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cizra
Well, I want the changes to get somewhere. The guy who cleaned my mess up has probably long since forgotten me.
2008-02-24 05527, 2008
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cizra
For example: where do I stick that disk ID?
2008-02-24 05533, 2008
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cizra
Also, how do I figure it out in the first place?
2008-02-24 05504, 2008
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yllona
you mean the catalog number and label or the PUID (acoustic fingerprint)
2008-02-24 05515, 2008
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cizra
No, disk ID
2008-02-24 05530, 2008
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cizra
The guy asked: If you have the cd, could you add the discid?
2008-02-24 05542, 2008
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cizra
Well, I have the CD, but I'm not sure about that discid.
2008-02-24 05502, 2008
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yllona
hold on, i'm reading everything
2008-02-24 05529, 2008
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warp
cizra: the discid is calculated by picard when you try to look up a cd with picard.
2008-02-24 05525, 2008
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yllona
i can't help you with the disc id, as i have a mac
2008-02-24 05527, 2008
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warp
cizra: by using picard to search for a cd in this way, you can also add the discid of that cd to a release in musicbrainz.
2008-02-24 05529, 2008
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cizra
What's that picard?
2008-02-24 05540, 2008
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cizra
Some kind of music player?
2008-02-24 05516, 2008
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yllona
it's an automated tool for musicbrianz that wil identify tracks in your collection
2008-02-24 05526, 2008
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yllona
one sec...
2008-02-24 05532, 2008
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warp
2008-02-24 05548, 2008
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warp
cizra: how are you using musicbrainz?
2008-02-24 05556, 2008
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cizra
Am not using it.
2008-02-24 05506, 2008
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cizra
I just tried to pull the disc data from CDDB.
2008-02-24 05510, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05524, 2008
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cizra
Then I saw that since it has no disc id set, it hasn't wound up in CDDB at all.
2008-02-24 05537, 2008
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cizra
That's why I want now the disc id to appear there.
2008-02-24 05504, 2008
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yllona
but if you have the CD, you can add the release events (release date/country for the CD)
2008-02-24 05514, 2008
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warp
cizra: musicbrainz doesn't add anything to CDDB
2008-02-24 05525, 2008
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yllona
to get the disc id you'll need to install picard
2008-02-24 05501, 2008
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cizra
OK, what's that Label field?
2008-02-24 05508, 2008
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cizra
What's that Catalog # field?
2008-02-24 05523, 2008
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warp
cizra: record label, catalog number.
2008-02-24 05534, 2008
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cizra
Record label? Well, it has no labels on it.
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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cizra
Frankly I don't understand that terminology.
2008-02-24 05505, 2008
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cizra
In other words, I have no idea what to put in any of these fields -- except the format, which is regular audio CD.
2008-02-24 05513, 2008
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cizra
Also, there's no field to put disc id into.
2008-02-24 05535, 2008
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cizra feels useless.
2008-02-24 05509, 2008
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yllona
cizra: to you have an official copy of this CD? if so the record label and catalog number with be printed on the CD inserts.
2008-02-24 05512, 2008
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cizra
yes
2008-02-24 05526, 2008
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FauxFosd1m joined the channel
2008-02-24 05532, 2008
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yllona
okay look on the CD case, on the back
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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cizra
Heh. The case is long gone (=
2008-02-24 05500, 2008
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yllona
what about the CD insert?
2008-02-24 05504, 2008
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cizra
wait, no
2008-02-24 05505, 2008
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cizra
found them
2008-02-24 05538, 2008
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yllona
okay, the label will be printed on the CD itself, and the CD insert
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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yllona
the catalog number is usually printed below the label name
2008-02-24 05523, 2008
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cizra
hmmhmm
2008-02-24 05528, 2008
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cizra
3-1656-2 (above)
2008-02-24 05538, 2008
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cizra
(LC) 1083 below it
2008-02-24 05542, 2008
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cizra
LC is in a circle
2008-02-24 05554, 2008
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cizra
| D | D | D| (in boxes) below them
2008-02-24 05529, 2008
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FauxFosdem has quit
2008-02-24 05532, 2008
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yllona
DDD is the type of audio recording "Digital/digital/digital"
2008-02-24 05549, 2008
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cizra
OK
2008-02-24 05517, 2008
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cizra
So, 3-1656-2 is probably the label?
2008-02-24 05528, 2008
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cizra
No way to figure out the release date, I suppose...
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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yllona
no, probly catalog number one sec
2008-02-24 05518, 2008
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yllona
is thhis the CD?
2008-02-24 05521, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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cizra
no
2008-02-24 05559, 2008
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cizra searches amazon as well
2008-02-24 05503, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05548, 2008
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cizra
Doesn't seem to be there.
2008-02-24 05549, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05517, 2008
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cizra
nope
2008-02-24 05523, 2008
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cizra
2008-02-24 05541, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05510, 2008
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cizra
OK, this sounds improbable, but it's not there either.
2008-02-24 05540, 2008
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warp
2008-02-24 05512, 2008
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cizra
yes!
2008-02-24 05532, 2008
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yllona
the label is koch international
2008-02-24 05554, 2008
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warp
I would say the label is "Koch Schwann"
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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yllona
it's the same
2008-02-24 05550, 2008
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cizra
The disc is manufactured in Austria.
2008-02-24 05502, 2008
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cizra
But the release might have been in Germany or something.
2008-02-24 05503, 2008
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Freso has quit
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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cizra
How to figure out?
2008-02-24 05527, 2008
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cizra
I think I'll just put Austria in there.
2008-02-24 05542, 2008
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cizra
OK, what about catalog number? 3-1656-2?
2008-02-24 05514, 2008
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cizra
Barcode is probably hopeless...
2008-02-24 05527, 2008
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cizra
oh, wait, it's on the case as well
2008-02-24 05544, 2008
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warp
yllona: label code and catalog numbers don't match up.
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05538, 2008
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yllona
ok, let me check koch distribution, one sec
2008-02-24 05526, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05538, 2008
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warp
yllona: Koch International acquired Schwann, and relabeled it as Koch/Schwann.
2008-02-24 05549, 2008
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yllona
warp thanks!
2008-02-24 05550, 2008
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warp
2008-02-24 05506, 2008
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warp
so, IMO needs to be a seperate entry in MB
2008-02-24 05550, 2008
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yllona
i think so too, hold on lookng for koch/schwan catalog
2008-02-24 05554, 2008
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cizra
Uh..
2008-02-24 05516, 2008
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warp
cizra: yes, we're serious about this stuff ;)
2008-02-24 05527, 2008
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cizra
Also, no place to stick disc id into has appeared.
2008-02-24 05545, 2008
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warp
cizra: no, the disc id is handled by picard. there is no other way to add it.
2008-02-24 05521, 2008
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cizra
Drat.
2008-02-24 05529, 2008
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cizra
I really can't understand the reason.
2008-02-24 05548, 2008
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yllona
becuase it needs to be calculated
2008-02-24 05509, 2008
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cizra
bc0c7f0d there ya go, calculated it
2008-02-24 05522, 2008
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cizra
mplayer and abcde give identical results
2008-02-24 05542, 2008
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yllona
warp: funny koch/schwann isn't listed on the koch distribution site
2008-02-24 05520, 2008
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yllona
nor is it listed on koch entertainment
2008-02-24 05537, 2008
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warp
yllona: universal is no longer using the imprint.
2008-02-24 05516, 2008
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yllona
lloks like, i have several koch recordings ...
2008-02-24 05552, 2008
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yllona
too bad, was a great affordable classical label
2008-02-24 05510, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05559, 2008
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cizra
So, what should I stick into those Label and Catalog # fields?
2008-02-24 05528, 2008
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warp
cizra: Label: Koch Schwann, Catalog #: 3-1656-2
2008-02-24 05541, 2008
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yllona
koch is still releasing clasical, just not as koch/schwann
2008-02-24 05559, 2008
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yllona
2008-02-24 05515, 2008
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cizra
There ya go
2008-02-24 05555, 2008
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cizra
2008-02-24 05558, 2008
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cizra
has a release event.
2008-02-24 05517, 2008
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warp
hm, not yet.
2008-02-24 05522, 2008
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cizra
oh fuck
2008-02-24 05529, 2008
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yllona
yep. not yet
2008-02-24 05544, 2008
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cizra
Did it disappear?
2008-02-24 05524, 2008
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warp
ah, there it is.
2008-02-24 05551, 2008
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warp
cizra: great!
2008-02-24 05500, 2008
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cizra
Not at all.
2008-02-24 05505, 2008
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yllona
yes looks good
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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cizra
I couldn't enter the disc id
2008-02-24 05513, 2008
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cizra
therefore it won't wind up in CDDB
2008-02-24 05520, 2008
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cizra
therefore the whole business will be useless for me.
2008-02-24 05547, 2008
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warp
cizra: it won't end up in cddb anyway.
2008-02-24 05510, 2008
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yllona grieves at the loss of koch/schwann as a label.
2008-02-24 05558, 2008
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cizra
2008-02-24 05546, 2008
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warp
cizra: yes, you can use that instead of CDDB in any software which uses the cddb/freedb protocol.
2008-02-24 05519, 2008
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cizra
Well, my point. It won't wind up there because it has no discid attached.
2008-02-24 05548, 2008
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warp
cizra: you could try picard :)
2008-02-24 05507, 2008
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cizra
Nah. Let's stay polite.
2008-02-24 05553, 2008
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cizra
OK, that's it. My $0.02 to the world happiness.
2008-02-24 05555, 2008
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cizra
G'night.
2008-02-24 05557, 2008
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cizra has left the channel
2008-02-24 05542, 2008
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warp
that release still needs more cleanup.
2008-02-24 05546, 2008
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rcross
ruaok, yllona - how'd the osx compile go?
2008-02-24 05557, 2008
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warp
stuff missing from the release title, and i don't think the release artist is accurate. :/
2008-02-24 05513, 2008
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yllona
rcross: i just got back about an hour ago, haven't tried again
2008-02-24 05540, 2008
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MrQwerty` joined the channel
2008-02-24 05524, 2008
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rcross
oh ok - it sounded like things were almost working when i left
2008-02-24 05528, 2008
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yllona
warp: done
2008-02-24 05552, 2008
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yllona
rcross: i ihave to explicitly link a library, seems like
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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yllona
the header file exists and is up-to-date on my systems, but the configure/make isn't finding it
2008-02-24 05556, 2008
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yllona
so i'll try to edit the configure after dinner
2008-02-24 05525, 2008
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rcross
ok, sounds good
2008-02-24 05539, 2008
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yllona
warp: i also added ARs for the artist
