thus violated Godwin's law. yet I was going to call Godwin for advice?
2008-02-29 06036, 2008
ruaok
oh doooood.
2008-02-29 06042, 2008
ruaok is feeling stupid
2008-02-29 06020, 2008
ruaok
really. I'm not refreshing that page and I'm going to bed.
2008-02-29 06023, 2008
luks
it's funny that he is the one posting hate speech links to MB and then he complains about it :)
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
mudcrow
"Who would have guessed that this site would be so welcoming to nazi hate speech". "I see it has a welcoming home here. guess you get enough nazis on a site and you form a consensus".
2008-02-29 06057, 2008
canidae
is it possible to get that edit publically available? i'd like to show it to people :p
2008-02-29 06005, 2008
mudcrow
thats twice he's refered to MB users as nazis, surely thats libel
2008-02-29 06013, 2008
ruaok
PDF it.
2008-02-29 06056, 2008
juhae
Makes me kinda wonder how the court proceedings go if someone from the US sues me, for example
2008-02-29 06006, 2008
juhae
Am I expected to travel to the US for the duration of the court case?
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
ruaok
no worries. they couldn't find you.
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
ruaok
fin... what?
2008-02-29 06022, 2008
juhae
Or would it be judged by Finnish laws
2008-02-29 06027, 2008
juhae
:D
2008-02-29 06028, 2008
ruaok
that's near mexico, right?
2008-02-29 06037, 2008
juhae
Between Mexico and Albania
2008-02-29 06046, 2008
ruaok
lol
2008-02-29 06058, 2008
juhae
The pearls of South Asia
2008-02-29 06013, 2008
canidae
follow international & the laws of your country and there's little usa can do to you
2008-02-29 06056, 2008
canidae
they could send in special forces to kidnap you, though. some might consider that a invasion :p
2008-02-29 06048, 2008
canidae
(they had a case back in '94 here in norway, israeli special forces assassinated some guy they thought were a terrorist. he wasn't, he was quite innocent)
2008-02-29 06009, 2008
juhae
I remember reading about that one
2008-02-29 06035, 2008
juhae
It was related to some bigger operation which Mossad generally messed up quite fantastically
2008-02-29 06037, 2008
canidae
hmm, maybe it was in 96? don't remember exactly
2008-02-29 06003, 2008
canidae
1973? wow, that long ago?
2008-02-29 06007, 2008
drsaunde
i'm pretty sure they based a Law & Order episode on it
2008-02-29 06008, 2008
warp
juhae: you might consider not traveling to the US if that happens.
2008-02-29 06014, 2008
juhae
In Lillehammer, Norway, on 07 January 1974, Mossad agents mistakenly killed Ahmad Boushiki, an Algerian waiter carrying a Moroccan passport, whom they mistook for PLO security head Ali Ahmad Salameh, believed to have masterminded the 1972 massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics [Salameh was killed in a 1979 car-bomb explosion in Lebanon]. Following the attack, the Mossad agents were arrested and tried before a Norwegian court. Five Israeli ...
2008-02-29 06020, 2008
juhae
... agents were convicted and served short jail sentences, though Israel denied responsibility for the murder. In February 1996, the Israeli government agreed to compensate the family of Ahmad Boushiki.
how on earth did they catch the israeli agents? usually it takes the police a year to do so
2008-02-29 06020, 2008
juhae
They must've been ordered to surrender or something like that
2008-02-29 06052, 2008
juhae
Or alternatively the Norwegian police is very efficient, succeeding where most intelligence agencies in the world fail
2008-02-29 06003, 2008
canidae
hehe, good joke :p
2008-02-29 06046, 2008
canidae
although, i heard a number some days ago, apparently 97% of the murder cases are solved around here
2008-02-29 06024, 2008
canidae
(wonder if that guy who spent half a lifetime in jail for a murder he didn't commit counts on that statistic)
2008-02-29 06009, 2008
canidae
poor sucker died just before they figured out "oh, he really was innocent"
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
juhae
I think the percentage is quite near that over here in Finland as well
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
juhae
Small countries and usually pretty stupid murderers
2008-02-29 06051, 2008
canidae
we "only" got 30 murders/year, though
2008-02-29 06001, 2008
ruaok
in the whole country?
2008-02-29 06019, 2008
legistrate has quit
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
canidae
yeh
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
ruaok
LA has waaay more than that.
2008-02-29 06056, 2008
ruaok
probably that many in 30-60 days. :-(
2008-02-29 06034, 2008
srotta joined the channel
2008-02-29 06047, 2008
canidae
usually it's drug addicts or, with taking the risk of sounding like a racist, "honor murder" (not sure the right word) within certain religious... circles
2008-02-29 06007, 2008
juhae
We had 111 killings in 2006 (including murder, manslaughter and so forth)
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
juhae
Most of them are prolly unintentional deaths by drunken people
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
canidae
you got roughly 12% more people
2008-02-29 06056, 2008
canidae
(than norway)
2008-02-29 06000, 2008
juhae
Like driving over someone while drunk or hitting someone in the head too hard
2008-02-29 06022, 2008
canidae
believe 30/year is just murder
2008-02-29 06032, 2008
canidae
hmm, where did i read it again
2008-02-29 06034, 2008
drsaunde
it's no LA..but there's usually at least one every weekend here in T.O.
2008-02-29 06027, 2008
canidae
here we go. early 70's it was between 21-27 murders/year. in '86 & '91 it peaked at 55 murders/year and in 2006 i believe it was quite close to 30
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
canidae
33 in 2005
2008-02-29 06051, 2008
juhae
59 murders in 2006
2008-02-29 06005, 2008
canidae
generally i'd say nothern european countries got a fairly well working system. might help that out countries aren't that crowded too
2008-02-29 06042, 2008
juhae
The dark winter tends to show in the suicide statistics though
2008-02-29 06053, 2008
juhae
Or violent crimes, I guess
2008-02-29 06017, 2008
juhae
But yeah, I figure we're doing quite good over here in general :)
2008-02-29 06048, 2008
canidae
let's see, found some nice statistics. in 2005 173 people commited suicide in norway
2008-02-29 06005, 2008
canidae
170 in 2004 and 128 in 2003
2008-02-29 06012, 2008
canidae
quite a leap there
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
canidae
whoops, that's wrong
2008-02-29 06031, 2008
canidae
that was women
2008-02-29 06007, 2008
canidae
damn, men are much worse. 360 in 2005, 359 in 2004 and 374 in 2003
2008-02-29 06049, 2008
warp
ff
2008-02-29 06052, 2008
warp
ff
2008-02-29 06037, 2008
warp
(woops, windows randomly switched back to qwerty for this window).
shame i dont live in usa, i'd travel to see them just to smack the stupid fucker in the face
2008-02-29 06042, 2008
juhae
"Ok Rob, Point taken, you prefer to facilitate Nazis to be able to illegally steel a trademark from an honest hardworking artist to distribute hate speech which is not protected free speech. I hope you feel good about that."
2008-02-29 06046, 2008
juhae
prrrflt :D
2008-02-29 06030, 2008
juhae
One of the reasons I really love to play punk is that there's none of that butthurt-"artist"-crap
2008-02-29 06040, 2008
mudcrow
very true
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
chefkoch joined the channel
2008-02-29 06059, 2008
juhae
wolfpack just changed their name to wolfbrigade after they found out there was a neo-nazi organization called "wolfpack"
2008-02-29 06012, 2008
juhae
and went on with their stuff
2008-02-29 06003, 2008
mudcrow
If he's so upset be the association why not just change the name, it would ruin his "reputation" less than being a complete knobhead
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
drsaunde
the exception being Handsome "Dickhead" Manitoba
2008-02-29 06052, 2008
mudcrow
There seems to be a lot of neo-nazi metal bands that use the same name as other metal bands or punk bands.
when all those were just one unsorted mess, the discography was a bit hilarious
2008-02-29 06058, 2008
chefkoch has quit
2008-02-29 06032, 2008
outsidecontext
still the same topic? didn't that guy give up?
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
mudcrow
no, he and his friend are still going strong and still insist on vandalising the other band entry
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
juhae
he shall fight on the beaches, he shall fight on the landing grounds, he shall fight in the fields and in the streets, he shall fight in the hills..
2008-02-29 06032, 2008
juhae
etc
2008-02-29 06053, 2008
mudcrow
and state i'm corrupting the database by raising the release and artist to high level and i'm workin to my own agenda and i'm a nazi lover. they are my new bestest friends
