#musicbrainz

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      • BrianFreud wonders if this makes him wierd...
      • BrianFreud
        Is it wierd to watch/listen to the press release by anonymous, and to suddenly pay attention to the background music - and be able to identify it?
      • ruaok
        nah, you're just human. :)
      • well, you are weird in plenty of other ways. :-)
      • BrianFreud
        lol
      • yeah, but the theme song to Gattaca I'd doubt is on the tip of most people's tongues :P
      • interesting voice synth they used - took me a few minutes to realize it wasn't just post-transform, but actually a synth
      • aCiD2
        music geek :P
      • Shepard
        aCiD2: I thought that's what MB is all about ;)
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      • canidae
        album 552960 99% 12593ERROR: invalid byte sequence for encoding "UNICODE": 0xf0
      • seem familiar to anyone?
      • ojnkpjg
        what's that from? a replication packet?
      • canidae
        it's from the replication process in InitDb.pl
      • ojnkpjg
        nothing in my logs like it
      • but i'm using postgres 8.3
      • ruaok
        what version of pg are you using?
      • I think 8.1 is required now.
      • ojnkpjg
        looking at the replication logs, what's kind of amazing is that trm submissions are still outpacing puid submissions by like an order of magnitude
      • are that many people still using the old tagge?
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      • ruaok
        yep.
      • TRM sucks.
      • bad.
      • ojnkpjg
        i wonder what it is that people like about the old tagger so much
      • ruaok
        track oriented.
      • for all those people who can't be bothered to download a whole album.
      • ojnkpjg
        that's what i hated about it :P
      • ruaok
        and that's why others love about it.
      • ojnkpjg
        think it'd be worth doing one final release to make the thing use puids instead of trms?
      • petros bites tongue instead of calling those kind of people names
      • ruaok
        I refuse.
      • And no one but me has been able to get it it to compile.
      • ojnkpjg
        oh
      • ruaok
        what I am playing with is the idea of a different UI bolted on top of picard that is more track oriented.
      • I don't even have the tools around anymore. not to mention the lack of a windows box.
      • ojnkpjg
        is trm still slated to go away with the next server revision?
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        chefkoch is now known as chefkoch_AW
      • ruaok
        yes. next schema change release.
      • petros
        Can't we just write a provocative page daring them to "get on the train" instead of being more stuck in the past than a movie with Cliff Curtis?
      • ojnkpjg
        so how many GB smaller will that make the DB :P
      • ruaok
        petros: no. the track oriented users are the most hateful internet users.
      • they give nothing but pointless spiteful feedback about the best tool ever being ripped away from them.
      • ruaok rolls his eyes
      • stupid idiots.
      • ojnkpjg
        yet nobody's bothered enough to do something about it and write something better
      • those are the best kind of users
      • petros
        have we aver had measurable problems with badmouthing 'lusers'?
      • ruaok
        ojnkpjg: well, those who complain loudest are the ones who are least likely to do something about it.
      • ojnkpjg
        that's usually how it goes, yeah
      • people who feel entitled, for some strange reason
      • ruaok
        petros: I've experienced more than my fair share of getting hate mail from these people.
      • ojnkpjg
        but won't do anything about it
      • ruaok
        and I always have to smile and apologize to them.
      • petros
        you "have"?
      • can't you just ignor them?
      • ruaok
        the customer is always right and shit.
      • you catch more bees with honey than vinegar.
      • they make too much noise to ignore them.
      • petros
        Good thinh I'm not in sales then
      • ruaok
        you need to stroke their ego, bat down their fur and try and make them shut up.
      • petros
        Whatever happened to buckets of water flung with gusto?
      • ojnkpjg
        what i like about my job is i almost never have to deal with end users
      • ruaok
        it gets in my keyboard everytime
      • ojnkpjg
        i'm insulated doubly, first by support, then by project management
      • problems only get escalated to engineering if it can't be solved by those to groups
      • er, two
      • i feel for the support people
      • petros
        I wouldn't be. I wouuld just help them while pondering how to write a follow-up to Kornbluth's novellae about travels to Venus in the meantime ;)
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      • akiel
        hi
      • sorry, I'm a bit lazy to find this in the docs. If I have mix ExtraTitleInformation and feat. ExtraTitleInformation in which order should I write them?
      • MClemo
        huh... I'd put feat. first
      • akiel
        thanks - do you have a reference to the docs?
      • Shepard
        akiel: it depends
      • akiel
        ah it depends nice :-)
      • Shepard
        if someone featured on the original version, put the feat. first
      • if someone only featured in the remix, put the feat. last :)
      • akiel
        ok the other way: I have the following on a CD back cover:
      • Shepard
        (that's what I've been doing anyway)
      • akiel
        Twenty fingers feat. Gillette - Mr. Personality (Radio Mix)
      • its on a sampler
      • what should I do?
      • Shepard
        I guess the featuring artist is on all versions, so I'd put it first and append (radio mix) to the end
      • akiel
        yes this sounds good
      • I think it should be Celebration (radio party rap)" not "Celebration (radio Party Rap)" as guess case suggests - am I right?
      • or "Celebration (Radio Party rap)" ?
      • Shepard
        radio party rap, I'd say
      • guess case can only guess, not know :)
      • akiel
        maybe "rap" should be included in the lower case words - like mix
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      • CatCat
        nikkinikki
      • CatCat np: Iron Maiden – Running Free (live)
      • Zharf
        Stratovarius - Rebel
      • hm
      • I never realised before... this is a perfect channel to ask for music recommendations
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      • someon recommend me some music :>
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      • BrianFreud
        Boards of Canada
      • petros
        Your favourite two albums?
      • ruaok
      • Zharf
        not that again
      • BrianFreud
        lol
      • Zharf
      • BrianFreud, I've listened to boc in the past... I haven't for a while though
      • BrianFreud just noticed our friend YAUB seems to have died
      • YAUB?
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      • Zharf
        :<
      • legistrate
        Does anyone know if the searching for the MB database is based on Tsearch2 and Trigram modules in the PostGreSQL server?
      • BrianFreud
        ^_^
      • ruaok
        legistrate: it is not.
      • we use lucene
      • legistrate
        ok, thx
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      • trying to read up on it before I ask too many questions, but while your still here, could you tell me how the database and lucene interact? Does lucene require its own dictionary sorta thing, does it get its dictionary from a database query, or does it itegrate directly with postgre via some module?
      • aCiD2
        Zharf: Harmonic 313
      • EP1 - release of the day for me :)
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      • Zharf
        I'll check it out
      • aCiD2
      • Have fun with the word problems too :)
      • Zharf
        urf, flashpage, eww
      • aCiD2
        I think it's great use of Flash
      • BrianFreud
        aCiD2: do I get to cheat and look at your entry? :D
      • aCiD2
        That would be boring!
      • Zharf
        I think pretty much youtube is the only great use of flash