bah, too much python lately... keep forgetting adding ";" in other language
2008-03-19 07914, 2008
canidae
s
2008-03-19 07928, 2008
aCiD2
alright, bed time
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aCiD2
natta!
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canidae
right... so "/etc/init.d/apache-perl restart" won't do the trick, i actually have to explicity stop and start for it to reload changes
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
FauxFaux
canidae: Actually, it's worse than that, stop && start won't necessarily do it, I find a sleep in the middle helps. Make sure it prints the Preloading 230 components line. :p
2008-03-19 07944, 2008
canidae
yes, i noticed it didn't do that on restart, it does on stop & start, though
2008-03-19 07906, 2008
canidae
anyways, i think i can nail this now as i actually can debug stuff now
2008-03-19 07952, 2008
canidae
i'm using an old computer for this, duron 1200, no need for sleep :p
2008-03-19 07957, 2008
canidae
although, raid5 kicks butt
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
canidae
it's disturbingly fast on i/o, compared to chewing numbers
2008-03-19 07956, 2008
canidae
yeapz, READWRITE probably shouldn't be undef when you set it up as RT_SLAVE
2008-03-19 07928, 2008
canidae
*READONLY
2008-03-19 07923, 2008
FauxFaux wonders how one would even attempt to architect a race condition like that. :/
2008-03-19 07952, 2008
canidae
since i just copied from READWRITE to READONLY it does have write access, but i'm the sole user, and i didn't set it up for changing data anyways
2008-03-19 07930, 2008
canidae
seemingly the documents doesn't tell you what to do if you want to set up a slave, but i might just've missed it too
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canidae
aww, come on.... ~125 rows/second? creating this index' gonna take a week
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canidae
ok, fine, only ~24 hours
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ruaok
thats a little slow. :-(
2008-03-19 07932, 2008
canidae
1200 duron
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
ruaok
how much ram?
2008-03-19 07958, 2008
canidae
384mb, old box
2008-03-19 07905, 2008
canidae
don't have newer hardware to spare, really
2008-03-19 07903, 2008
canidae
ok, it picked up a little, ~190 rows/sec now
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ruaok
what kind of ram does it take?
2008-03-19 07946, 2008
canidae
i've no idea... probably whatever was cool before ddr hit the market
2008-03-19 07902, 2008
ruaok
pc-100 or pc-133
2008-03-19 07909, 2008
ruaok
I still have some of that laying around...
2008-03-19 07957, 2008
canidae
well, no stress... this isn't gonna be a permanent setup, it's just for testing. also, i mostly just have this week of vacation i where i got time/strength to play, so by the time it would come it'd probably be too late
2008-03-19 07922, 2008
canidae
i'm not so familiar with pylucene, although perhaps it could be an idea to look at clucene and make some bindings to python? iirc pylucene is more or less a hack, gcj compiled java code or some crack like that :p
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
canidae
meh, this was tedious to watch. maybe it'll be more exciting after some hours sleep. *poof*
2008-03-19 07914, 2008
dsp
gcj compiled java lucene, C python bindings into that
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
dsp
last time i looked at clucene the featureset was weak
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ruaok nods
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dsp
xapian looked like it had improved a lot
2008-03-19 07930, 2008
dsp
one of these days i'll get around to trying it again
2008-03-19 07932, 2008
ruaok
know of anyone who has compared it to lucene?
2008-03-19 07913, 2008
dsp
not recently, but i haven't spent much time looking
2008-03-19 07935, 2008
dsp
i was just poking through their site a couple months ago and noticed that things had progressed a lot since i had last evaluated it
2008-03-19 07946, 2008
dsp
and while lucene is nice, java is not
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ruaok
ding!
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dsp
xapian would be a lot easier to deploy
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ruaok
which is the only reason why I'm even looking at it.
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
ruaok
one should not core infrastructure pieces like search engines in java.
2008-03-19 07944, 2008
ruaok
*write
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dsp
i don't know that c++ is much righter though
2008-03-19 07955, 2008
nikki
is the index creating thing ram-dependent then?
2008-03-19 07909, 2008
ruaok
dsp: its better than java.
2008-03-19 07928, 2008
ruaok
index creation, no. searching is both heavy on cpu and on ram
2008-03-19 07949, 2008
ruaok
fortunately someone is donating 2 servers with 8 gigs of ram and dual quad core procs
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
nikki
oh, lucene indexes...
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dsp
nice
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
dsp
i've still been buying amd for search b/c of the extra memory bw
2008-03-19 07937, 2008
dsp
but it looks like intel is solving that shortly
2008-03-19 07952, 2008
nikki
I should get around to buying more ram...
2008-03-19 07947, 2008
dsp
at work tomorrow i have a machine showing up with 32 GB, yay
2008-03-19 07912, 2008
ruaok
nice
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nikki can't imagine that much
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dsp
~4 yrs ago at a diff company i had itanics with 24 GB of mem :)
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dsp
i can't believe the itanic still exists
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nikki
my macbook has a gig and that's the most I've ever had in one computer :P
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dsp
that *has* to be a political thing
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dsp
for a laptop that is fine
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dsp
for search you need a lot of mem if you have big indexes and want a lot of q/s
