yep. the next couple of years will be challenging.
2008-03-19 07949, 2008
ruaok
I think I need to change my tune from wanting to hire lots of people to "who the fuck can we survive this mess"?
2008-03-19 07954, 2008
ruaok
s/who/how
2008-03-19 07916, 2008
ruaok
I think reaching self sufficiency came in the nick of time.
2008-03-19 07951, 2008
yllona
one of my clients that does alot european & asian business, is still using dollars, because euros was too complex/expensive given the number of transactions
2008-03-19 07933, 2008
yllona
but they're at that awkward "mid-growth" stage
2008-03-19 07949, 2008
yllona
but i should check with them again on this issue
2008-03-19 07925, 2008
nikki scowls at the pound/euro graph
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
ojnkpjg
hey, don't complain
2008-03-19 07939, 2008
ojnkpjg
check out the euro/dollar graph
2008-03-19 07959, 2008
nikki
but I'm not converting any euros into dollars
2008-03-19 07915, 2008
nikki
but I need to go get some euros for tomorrow, and the exchange rate just went splat
2008-03-19 07918, 2008
yllona
ruaok: i'll hook you up with my girl -- she saved my ass in 2000-2002 and again during my Mom's illness -- really good people and very fair. i was by no means her largest client (by a galactic margin) but she delivered me the same level of service
the pound is in serious trouble too, if I am reading this right.
2008-03-19 07906, 2008
nikki
but still, when I last converted some money late last year it was still over 1.40 euro per pound
2008-03-19 07914, 2008
nikki
it's still $2 to a pound though
2008-03-19 07914, 2008
yllona
yep. int'l finance is feeling the pain too. that was the point of my rant a few days ago
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
ruaok
maybe I should settle all my contracts in EUR now.
2008-03-19 07944, 2008
ruaok looks at last.fm
2008-03-19 07905, 2008
yllona
several british banks and hedge funds (especially) are in real trouble
2008-03-19 07920, 2008
nikki
yeah, my interest rates have dropped on all my accounts
2008-03-19 07938, 2008
nikki
and I can't get credit to save my life, but I think that's a different issue
2008-03-19 07946, 2008
yllona
i'm watching japan also.
2008-03-19 07947, 2008
BrianFreud
ruaok: I would... right now, the dollar's seeming rather ruble-like
2008-03-19 07904, 2008
ruaok
well, I've been avoiding USD contracts.
2008-03-19 07919, 2008
ruaok
but what I'm saying is that I should probably avoid GBP contracts too.
2008-03-19 07929, 2008
ruaok
All hail the EURo.
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
yllona
nikki: no one here can get credit now... even the most pristine folks
2008-03-19 07940, 2008
zoke
the USD is in a cycle, it should drop for about a year or more and then it will slowly rise
2008-03-19 07957, 2008
ruaok
zoke: assuming the entire country doesn't self destruct.
2008-03-19 07910, 2008
zoke
it won't, people worry too much
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
nikki
yllona: well, I've had trouble for months, I think it's because I'm not on the electoral role at the same address as my bank account
2008-03-19 07949, 2008
yllona
ruaok: there's an election in november... nothing will happen until then, and the markets always rise post-election for at least 3-4 months
2008-03-19 07905, 2008
ruaok
not if mccain't gets elected.
2008-03-19 07933, 2008
nikki
jesus. under 200 yen to a pound now, I remember when it used to be 180 and then all of a sudden it was around 225 and I was like "carry on! carry on!" because japanese cds are so bloody expensive
2008-03-19 07902, 2008
yllona
i disagree. i have to say this is the best set of candidates (on both sides of the fence) in decades
2008-03-19 07938, 2008
MBChatLogger
Impeach GWB NOW!
2008-03-19 07938, 2008
ruaok
mccain't == bush 2.0
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
yllona
ruaok: again i disagree mccain is much better than bush. and i'm not a republican
2008-03-19 07950, 2008
yllona
is he the best republican out there -- no.
2008-03-19 07908, 2008
yllona
on the other hand it could be much, much worse
2008-03-19 07921, 2008
ojnkpjg
a mike huckabee theocracy?
2008-03-19 07927, 2008
Senilix thinks Jens Stoltenberg does a good job
2008-03-19 07917, 2008
petros
Sheesh, wouldn't ANY candidate be better than Bush?
2008-03-19 07904, 2008
yllona
petros: very true, my point being that there are far worse republicans than mccain
2008-03-19 07904, 2008
HairMetalAddict has quit
2008-03-19 07911, 2008
petros
No doubt. GHe ssems pretty mello compares to some of the others they
2008-03-19 07919, 2008
petros
reational I mean
2008-03-19 07923, 2008
BrianFreud
yllona: have to agree - Obama v McCain, harder choice for me, but Hilary v McCain, I'd really be tempted to go McCain - no republican I, but I was a big McCain fan last time he was out
2008-03-19 07923, 2008
petros
rational
2008-03-19 07956, 2008
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2008-03-19 07946, 2008
ruaok
luks: ping
2008-03-19 07956, 2008
luks
pong
2008-03-19 07900, 2008
ruaok
hi
2008-03-19 07911, 2008
ruaok
did you get any info from SoC about being a mentor?
2008-03-19 07920, 2008
luks
yes, I got some invitation via mail, so I registered in the SoC webapp
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
ruaok
great.
2008-03-19 07902, 2008
ruaok
I've also been wondering if we should stick to the next release being non-schema change.
2008-03-19 07912, 2008
ruaok
I was hoping to get it out way sooner, but that didn't happen.
2008-03-19 07927, 2008
ruaok
schema change == TRM dead
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
luks
I was thinking about that, too
2008-03-19 07947, 2008
ruaok
which means that we ought to have a new Picard UI for track oriented tagging by then.
2008-03-19 07905, 2008
ruaok
there are quite a few schema changes pending.
2008-03-19 07911, 2008
ruaok
lets keep that question open for now.
2008-03-19 07920, 2008
ruaok
but I'm entertaining it.
2008-03-19 07948, 2008
luks
the SoC proposal might be interesting for this, since it would solve the picard problem
2008-03-19 07909, 2008
luks
(the one on mb-devel)
2008-03-19 07924, 2008
ruaok
ah. I'll read that in a minute.
2008-03-19 07945, 2008
luks
but if the last year learned me something, then it's to not believe everything in soc applications :)
2008-03-19 07953, 2008
ruaok
lol
2008-03-19 07954, 2008
luks
so I'm not that optimistic about it
2008-03-19 07915, 2008
ruaok
well, one of the things that I learned from the summit is that its ok to fail people early.
2008-03-19 07923, 2008
ruaok
for instance, no code by mid-term eval == FAIL.
2008-03-19 07938, 2008
ruaok
so, you and I need to be much more stringent.
2008-03-19 07939, 2008
BrianFreud
only thing I wonder about the updating concept that's been req'd many times, and is partially beoing discussed there - isn't that rather a heavy load increase on the server, esp if it's so easy that people start doing it frequently?
2008-03-19 07955, 2008
ruaok
set the standards to what we expect. if students don't meet them, we nuke em and move ok.
2008-03-19 07957, 2008
ruaok
*on
2008-03-19 07904, 2008
luks
yep
2008-03-19 07915, 2008
ruaok
BrianFreud: very much so.
2008-03-19 07925, 2008
ruaok
which is one of the reasons I'm not too keen to work on that.
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
ruaok
I would much prefer to have RSS feeds.
2008-03-19 07941, 2008
ruaok
and have someone else serve those feeds.
2008-03-19 07949, 2008
ruaok
and have picard and co read the feeds and look for changes.
2008-03-19 07958, 2008
ruaok
those obviating the need to poll for changes.
2008-03-19 07918, 2008
ruaok
*thus
2008-03-19 07937, 2008
BrianFreud
that database someone was working on would have seemed ideal for that - have it check a local dump for changes, then auto-update somehow, rather than everyone polling each file without even knowing if there's an update
2008-03-19 07957, 2008
ruaok
luks: I'm more optimistic about Alexander because he is coming in with his own ideas about picard.
2008-03-19 07906, 2008
BrianFreud
picard more as the tool to get the mbids in, rather than to continually update
2008-03-19 07912, 2008
ruaok
most successful soc projects are suggested by the students.
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
ruaok
sure.
2008-03-19 07908, 2008
chefkoch_
chefkoch_ is now known as chefkoch_AW
2008-03-19 07948, 2008
UncleRemus has quit
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
zoke
50%+ of tracks have TRMs associated with them while only ~36% of tracks have PUID's associated with them
2008-03-19 07955, 2008
zoke
How long did MB use TRM ?
2008-03-19 07958, 2008
zoke
3 years ?
2008-03-19 07900, 2008
ruaok
too long
2008-03-19 07906, 2008
ruaok
2002?
2008-03-19 07936, 2008
ruaok
and of those 50%+ tracks, most of those TRMs are now useless. discarded and never to be issued by the TRM server again.
2008-03-19 07942, 2008
ruaok
its broke. badly broke.
2008-03-19 07955, 2008
zoke
at least there are some identifiers on the tracks though
2008-03-19 07914, 2008
ruaok
but they are useless.
2008-03-19 07925, 2008
zoke
true
2008-03-19 07941, 2008
zoke
I don't understand though how TRMS worked, what is this TRMServer that I keep on reading about >
2008-03-19 07910, 2008
ruaok
a poor implementation of acoustic fingerprints.
2008-03-19 07913, 2008
ruaok
it was free. :)
2008-03-19 07922, 2008
ruaok
and you know how good free software is
2008-03-19 07926, 2008
ruaok prefers open source
2008-03-19 07917, 2008
zoke
you probably won't get a very good open source fingerprinting system though
2008-03-19 07948, 2008
ruaok
agreed, thus we use PUIDs.
2008-03-19 07959, 2008
BrianFreud
puids aren't open source, but they are quite an improvement over TRMs
2008-03-19 07903, 2008
zoke
I wish some one had a huge MP3 collection that I could just steal for MB
2008-03-19 07905, 2008
luks
somebody should steel last.fm's collection :)
2008-03-19 07911, 2008
luks
*steal
2008-03-19 07928, 2008
ruaok
its been tried. they are not allowed to relicense it.
2008-03-19 07934, 2008
yllona
BrianFreud: for CSG is it "Act I, Scene i"
2008-03-19 07938, 2008
ruaok
you'd have to ask Russ covertly. :)
2008-03-19 07956, 2008
zoke
Can't they run Picard on their collection though ?
2008-03-19 07921, 2008
yllona
last.fm may another choice for acoustic fingerprinting
