luks: would it be at all possible to be able to search within edits? like for artist-url in add relationships or say, time changes in a merged edit track edit
2008-03-21 08152, 2008
Freso
lauri: It's been a long, long time since I've had to wait more than 24 hours to have a merge go through.
2008-03-21 08110, 2008
lauri
freso: i thought it was an obvious one too, but he'll vote no (and that was open more than 24 hours and got one single no vote)
2008-03-21 08122, 2008
lauri
bad timing, i guess, easter holiday
2008-03-21 08144, 2008
Freso
lauri: I wasn't around for your promotion of the Happy Merge in the channel. :)
2008-03-21 08146, 2008
lauri
if you wanna try it again, i'll yes bomb it, sure
2008-03-21 08104, 2008
lauri
i don't normally ask for votes in here
2008-03-21 08108, 2008
luks
nikki: I'm thinking about adding edit type flags to the moderation table
2008-03-21 08110, 2008
luks
so that edit types will be separate from the code (the current edit types) that handles them
2008-03-21 08122, 2008
luks
and it would be possible to search for specific AR edits, too
2008-03-21 08131, 2008
lauri
i'm not particularly asking for them now, i'm just checking my even wanting to merge it is not completely insane
lauri: I don't either. Just for merges, to get the duplicate artist(s) removed ASAP.
2008-03-21 08151, 2008
yllona
ojnkpjg: that could be. but as a card-carrying member of the michael jackson fan club from 1969, thru the 1980s. i beg someone to try. and yes fan clubs issued printed wallet cards back in the day :)
2008-03-21 08152, 2008
nikki
luks: if we had something like that so we can still search for specific things, I don't see why merged types would be such a problem for people
why is it merging into Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson and not the other way around ?
2008-03-21 08113, 2008
Freso
Or, wait. I think my clock needs to be sync'ed.
2008-03-21 08135, 2008
Freso
zoke: Paul and MJ has more information related to them and is an older entry.
2008-03-21 08149, 2008
Freso
*is the older
2008-03-21 08108, 2008
nikki
the only thing I can think of is if there are some good edits and some bad edits within the same one... but that's always a problem
2008-03-21 08112, 2008
ojnkpjg
yeah, i'd say the one with more edit history should always be merge target
2008-03-21 08119, 2008
ojnkpjg
and then adjusted to be correct, if necessary, after the merge
2008-03-21 08122, 2008
nikki
you could do a normal edit track name now and correct one thing and make something else bad
2008-03-21 08131, 2008
aCiD2
Freso: py_mb_server!
2008-03-21 08136, 2008
zoke
Freso, ok then voting yes
2008-03-21 08137, 2008
aCiD2
:)
2008-03-21 08142, 2008
Freso
aCiD2: OMGYES!
2008-03-21 08142, 2008
nikki
I thought edit history was merged when artists were merged?
2008-03-21 08143, 2008
aCiD2
and welcome back
2008-03-21 08145, 2008
aCiD2
haha
2008-03-21 08148, 2008
Freso
aCiD2: Thank you. :)
2008-03-21 08154, 2008
ojnkpjg
i think it's lost for the merged artist
2008-03-21 08156, 2008
aCiD2
Was it good?
2008-03-21 08101, 2008
Freso
aCiD2: Awesome.
2008-03-21 08103, 2008
ojnkpjg
but i could be wrong
2008-03-21 08107, 2008
aCiD2
cool
2008-03-21 08108, 2008
Freso
Pictures coming up any day. :)
2008-03-21 08125, 2008
aCiD2
:)
2008-03-21 08101, 2008
Freso
Oh, whoa! I just noticed the "Edit Rel. Types". I'd completely forgotten about that. :p
2008-03-21 08131, 2008
aCiD2 pops off to the shops, back in 10 or so
2008-03-21 08144, 2008
lauri
heh, let's see if that gets through before he notices it then
2008-03-21 08102, 2008
ojnkpjg
kind of a cheap trick :P
2008-03-21 08106, 2008
ojnkpjg
but bad timing
2008-03-21 08111, 2008
ojnkpjg
still 50 minutes before the hour
2008-03-21 08112, 2008
lauri
i feel a little underhanded doing it heh
2008-03-21 08127, 2008
Freso
ojnkpjg: Yeah. Ten minutes earlier would have been excellent.
2008-03-21 08145, 2008
ojnkpjg
i think it's obviously enough the right thing to do in this case, though
2008-03-21 08110, 2008
lauri
either way, the collab ar's are unecessary
2008-03-21 08113, 2008
ojnkpjg
yep
2008-03-21 08118, 2008
Freso
Yeah. It is. (And I wouldn't care if Paul & MJ are renamed MJ & Paul, but they *are* the older entry.)
2008-03-21 08119, 2008
lauri
so i leaving my no vote on those
2008-03-21 08125, 2008
ojnkpjg
it's not like there's a notion of primacy on those
2008-03-21 08135, 2008
lauri
i don't care either, that was the point i was trying to get through to him heh
2008-03-21 08138, 2008
ojnkpjg
even if people wrongly perceive one based on order
2008-03-21 08102, 2008
lauri
nobody _but_ him actually cares, certainly not based on 'who sings first in the song', if he really wants to edit the order, go ahead
2008-03-21 08113, 2008
lauri
it's the duplication that's dumb, not the artist name order
2008-03-21 08131, 2008
Infinito_ has quit
2008-03-21 08157, 2008
yllona
okay, folks on the michael jackson/paul mccartney collabs: the album owner gets first marquee -- end of story. as for msuic publishing (ie composer), that's another story. those rights are *heavily negotiated*. it's not about "who sings first"
2008-03-21 08156, 2008
BrianFreud has quit
2008-03-21 08105, 2008
BrianFreud joined the channel
2008-03-21 08123, 2008
lauri
I had a suspicion that was so, but wasn't sure enough to bring it up in the edit
2008-03-21 08145, 2008
yllona
and "who sings first" is also part of the negotiation
2008-03-21 08121, 2008
yllona
so for those two artists especially, it's all contractual -- not artistic :)
2008-03-21 08137, 2008
lauri
so the jackson / mccartney order is actually the correct one
2008-03-21 08144, 2008
yllona
yep.
2008-03-21 08128, 2008
yllona
you'll notice that the music publishing may have a slightly different order :)
2008-03-21 08132, 2008
lauri
no point editing it now, i'd have to think up a disambig comment
2008-03-21 08157, 2008
lauri
but as soon as that merge is done
2008-03-21 08158, 2008
yllona
but then michael bought the beatles catalog in it's entirety
2008-03-21 08108, 2008
yllona
actually that was part of the deal, michael had the where with all to buy the catalog, and paul mccartney was like -- WTF? how did this happen.
2008-03-21 08123, 2008
yllona reminds the internet kiddies that long before michael jackson became a freak, he was brilliant business man
2008-03-21 08128, 2008
lauri
heh, i get a little stabbing pain every time i hear one of those old songs and remember that cute wee boy turned into such a frooty loop
2008-03-21 08118, 2008
lauri
but yeah, he wasn't stupid either, some of those deals were genius
