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      • nikki rolls around laughing at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/04/01/acid-3-opera-first-to-106
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      • mudcrow
        Your requests are exceeding the allowable rate limit (14.8, limit is 13.0 per 10 seconds)
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      • mudcrow
        Please slow down then try again. huh?
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      • CatCat
        DËTHKLØK \o/
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      • CatCat
        nikki: AWSUM!
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      • mudcrow
        teo @ discogs "Looking back, the deployment of V4 was not planned well and came off quite sloppy" quote of the week.
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      • mudcrow
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/5757957a-ad44-47d7… spent ages adding all the ARs. found a copy and downloaded it...and it's crap :(
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      • chefkoch_AW
        chefkoch_AW is now known as chefkoch
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      • MClemo
        what did they do in V4?
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      • mudcrow
        fucked up everything. allowed all submissions and edits to go live straight away, removed the voting queue, removed the ability to reject releases. basically removed all controls from submissions and removed the abilty to find subs and edits
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      • mudcrow
        nothing seems to have been tested, the edit history disappeared for most releases, no notification was being given to comments on edits, watch lists (subscribed artists) disappeared
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      • mudcrow
        and a large amount of the community left because the discogs management refused to admit that anything was wrong
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      • mudcrow
        I still get no notification of edits made to releases/artists in my collection. I just get a list of new submissions to artists I'm not subscribed to
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      • CatCat lols at how "Censorship" and "Homophobia" has no ars
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      • MClemo
        mudcrow: wow, that sounds bet. Glad I ended up here ;)
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      • MClemo
        s/bet/bad/
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      • MClemo
        next time I write bed when I mean bad probably
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      • mudcrow
        yep, it annoys that discogs state they are a community database while the actively censor and ignore their community. 600+ discogs users have declared their disastisfaction with the latest changes and 70 moerators are left or refuse to moderate, and discogs still deny anything is wrong
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      • mudcrow
        the =they
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      • mudcrow
        *moderators have left
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      • mudcrow
        today is poor typing day
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      • Kilu
        glad I never bothered with discogs
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      • mudcrow
        myself and others are extremely pissed off that the countless, thankless hours spent moderating and expanding their database are now deemed worthless by discogs. They have shown time & time again this year that they don't give a fuck about their "community"
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      • warp
        kilu :)
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      • mudcrow
        theres about 250 ex discogs mods and users actively trying to create a community built/community managed non profit alternative to discogs. I hope they succeed
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      • CatCat
        hi warpen
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      • luks
        speaking of discogs... now that their data are PD-licensed, I was playing a bit with http://oxygene.sk/lukas/import-discogs.php
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      • CatCat is trying to figure out the paril fools joke
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      • mudcrow
        nice luks
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      • mudcrow
        could you do one for rateyormusic? http://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/discharge/rea…
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      • luks
        hm, should be easy
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Dethklok ~ Thunderhorse (2:45) (from Metalocalypse: Dethklok The Dethalbum (disc 1)) (2007)
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      • CatCat
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      • BrianFreud
        mudcrow: I guess it just tells me "get the data out of these asap before they collapse!"
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, nice, been working on the AR end of that
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      • mudcrow
        yes, BrianFreud there are worries that with the instant live edits and lack of edit history, a lot of discogs data will be quickly corupted
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, actually... It'd be really easy to toss together a (FF only) script to add a link to Discogs, and auto-click the 2 buttons on that page... instant Discogs import script...
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      • BrianFreud
        (if you don't plan to add the functionality to MB directly anyhow)
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      • CatCat
        lol why doe i read that name as "murdercrow" now?
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      • CatCat
        lol
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      • luks
        BrianFreud: the release editor doesn't allow AR editing
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      • luks
        do there is no easy way to do that right now
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      • BrianFreud
        mudcrow: to be honest, though, it seems more like their problem is that they added real editing functionality, without making it clear just what is or isn't actually voted through. looking at a history like http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1257120 , it looks like what would happen if you made all editors at MB autoeditors
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      • CatCat
        uh.. so discogs goign wtfery wasnt an april fools joke?
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      • BrianFreud
        luks: I know. I have been doing it the hard way, mapping each and every Discogs AR to one of ours, finding those that can't be mapped, and disassembling the POST made by each and every form on MB
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      • BrianFreud
        is beyond a pain to pull off atm
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      • luks
        BrianFreud: yeah, but I don't want fully automatic import
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      • luks
        the data need to be reviewed first
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      • luks
        and if I'm going to implement that, I'll rather implement it as part of the release editor :)
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      • mudcrow
        yes, BrianFreud and removed the edit search. and removed your edit and voting history.
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      • BrianFreud
        I agree; that's part of what I was working on... how to put that into a GUI without the GUI being insanely overcomplex to understand
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      • CatCat
        mudcrow: and this happened to*daY*?
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      • mudcrow
        no catcat. since the beginning of March.
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, I liked the TISP better: http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
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      • CatCat
        oh
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      • CatCat
        just, started talking abotu it *now* sos i uh got confuseds
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      • mudcrow
        it was today the Teo @ discogs finally agreed that his update was a "bit sloppy"
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      • mudcrow
        the/that
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      • CatCat
        thats porbably the april fools joke :P
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      • BrianFreud
        hmmm, interesting philosophy from lauri, if I interpret it correctly... a yes on a good edit is the same as an abstain, only a no really is meaningful
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      • CatCat
        pfft
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      • mudcrow
        catcat: it probably is. unusal for teo to admit he's ever wrong
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      • Brassily
        lukz: hiii
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      • Brassily
        ruaok: ping
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      • outsidecontext
        brasilly: i don't think ruaok is online :)
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      • Brassily
        ok
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      • Brassily
        what about lukz ?
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      • Brassily
        outsidecontext: I want to know something about the musicbrainz website
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      • outsidecontext
        brassily: maybe just ask, here are quite a few people who could probably answer
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      • Brassily
        I had a chat with laury last day
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      • Brassily
        could you please say something on this ?
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      • Brassily
        I am asking about GSoC2008 projects
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      • outsidecontext
        for GSoC ruaok and luks are probably the best people to ask, but what was the discussion about?
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      • Brassily
        laury also said that
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      • Brassily
        but I didnt get them!
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      • outsidecontext
        luks was around a few minutes ago, and ruaok will surely be here soon. so if you have some time just stay :)
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      • nikki thought ruaok never got up before noon
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      • BrianFreud
        Been noticing, since I switched to the newest version of the vorbis codec - anyone else seeing issues in mutagen and picard with reported tracklengths being WAY off for files encoded with the latest vorbis?
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      • Muz
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      • BrianFreud
        Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
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      • ojnkpjg
        luks, there?
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      • luks
        yeah
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      • ojnkpjg
        what do you think about splitting off the mfsl release of oxygene into its own version
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      • ojnkpjg
        just checked the cdtoc on it, and it's about the same total time, but the track divisions are different
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      • ojnkpjg
        different production credits, too
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      • luks
        if you have the CD, I'd separate it
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      • luks
        and move the discid
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      • ojnkpjg
        ok
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      • ojnkpjg
        well, i used to have it
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      • ojnkpjg
        but i've still got all the data
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      • ojnkpjg
        people pay crazy money for that mfsl stuff on ebay now that they're out of business
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      • ojnkpjg
        btw, i posted the scans i have on that oxygene 2007 edit
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      • luks
        yeah, I didn't actually look on the CD :(
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      • luks
        it has a different number
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      • luks
        not sure which one is the "right" one, but you are probably right and the one from CD should be used
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      • ojnkpjg
        yeah, i don't know, either
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      • ojnkpjg
        i know it was released in a few different ways
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      • ojnkpjg
        i think the cd promo version was given out for free with some newspaper
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      • ojnkpjg
        forget where
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      • luks
        that's the one I was adding
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      • luks
        stealing data from discogs :)
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      • ojnkpjg
        ah
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, btw, I searched for a scan of the rear of the LP for that latest VS you added - finally found one at Discogs, actually. Seems VS may not have even had barcodes on those 1977-81 era LPs
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      • luks
        umm, which one?
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      • BrianFreud
        umm... don't recall now - "The (something)" by Conti?
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      • luks
        oh, I know
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      • BrianFreud
        but yeah, Discogs had a decent res scan of both the front and back, no barcode visible
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      • BrianFreud
        which is consistent with the other STV series ones I've seen
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      • Brassily
        luks: I was waiting for you to come. I want to know something about GSoC project. Please ping me when you are free I will be here
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      • luks
        I'm here :)
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      • luks
        feel free to ask
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      • Brassily
        ok
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      • Brassily
        I want to know some more about the website redesign project
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      • luks
        there isn't really a website redesign project
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      • Brassily
        I had a chat with laury 2 days back
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      • luks
        also, there isn't exactly how gsoc work
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      • Brassily
        ok,,
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      • luks
        it's up to you to make a project
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      • luks
        decide what to do, etc.
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      • luks
        the ideas on the wiki page are really just ideas
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      • Brassily
        but its said to improve the HTML/CSS
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      • luks
        yeah, but you have to decide in how
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