And who's to say if I did that they wouldn't get removed again?
2008-04-12 10310, 2008
creature
I don't mind (much) re-adding them, but I'd be a bit POed if they were removed again.
2008-04-12 10341, 2008
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BrianFreud
a few hundred rather highly argued notes on the style list in the past month about why both have a right to exist, and an agreement that we won't vote down / merge away them now :)
2008-04-12 10311, 2008
BrianFreud
That's why I was checking the timeframe on when the other ones failed their votes
2008-04-12 10304, 2008
yllona
BrianFreud: why were they removed, i don't undrstand?
2008-04-12 10322, 2008
yllona
creature: hang on before you start that enormous effort
2008-04-12 10326, 2008
BrianFreud
They failed their add votes 1:1
2008-04-12 10339, 2008
yllona
noone voted?
2008-04-12 10341, 2008
creature
yllona: Don't worry, I'm not chomping at the bit.
2008-04-12 10325, 2008
warp
creature: that's a bit of a weak spot in MB, but it very rarely causes practical problems.
2008-04-12 10328, 2008
BrianFreud
yllona, no, they failed on a tie on add - the "box set CDs should be merged to / entered as the single CD versions, not the box set" logic
2008-04-12 10318, 2008
creature
BrianFreud: Which AR should I use for it?
2008-04-12 10340, 2008
BrianFreud
"release is an earlier release of release"
2008-04-12 10313, 2008
creature
Well, it says 'is the earliest', which isn't quite the same thing.
2008-04-12 10307, 2008
yllona
i'm not the biggest beethoven fan, but i absolutely *adore* karajan
2008-04-12 10316, 2008
BrianFreud
same here. Considering the Gould fans we have too, I'm kind of surprised I've found a Gould or two not in the database yet
2008-04-12 10304, 2008
creature
yllona: So, still think I should hold off?
2008-04-12 10300, 2008
yllona
yeah... do your local thing, so you can listen, but this issue is noisy as of two weeks ago on the list
2008-04-12 10312, 2008
yllona
i say listen and enjoy.
2008-04-12 10310, 2008
yllona
creature: but that's too valuable a recording to get caught up in some ridiculous list argument
2008-04-12 10333, 2008
creature
I'm adding a couple of ARs to the 2 surviving discs.
creature: that's why i haven't entered my complete ring cycle (14 CDs) from bayreuth, or my karajan ring cycle either
2008-04-12 10356, 2008
yllona
nor will i enter the james levine from the Met (that i just ordered)
2008-04-12 10302, 2008
BrianFreud
I've been holding off classical releases myself, but not because of the box set issue, but because we don't have the "short form CSG" yet for use on releases and not works
2008-04-12 10352, 2008
creature
I should probably subscribe to the infamous 'list', but I know what will happen.
2008-04-12 10319, 2008
yllona
creature: it can get really stoopid.
2008-04-12 10321, 2008
creature
I will get sucked into the world of pedantic arguments, and I think that's a world I'm happy to be removed from. :)
2008-04-12 10359, 2008
BrianFreud
I wish we could get it done soon... lists + our RFC process isn't quite conducive to anything getting done, let alone with any decent speed
2008-04-12 10332, 2008
yllona
creature: pedantic arguments from people who don't own the recordings, and don't attend concerts -- even better :P
2008-04-12 10355, 2008
creature
yllona: Thing is, I know I could be one of them, and I'm trying to spend more time away from the computer, not more time on it.
2008-04-12 10319, 2008
BrianFreud
when style flares up, it'd be the worst thing then to get away from the comp
2008-04-12 10321, 2008
creature
What's the news of the world on the classical wiki-esque DB? Where releases link to a master list of movement names?
2008-04-12 10337, 2008
yllona
creature: good idea -- real life is quite fascinating once you try it ;)
2008-04-12 10321, 2008
creature
I went to my first proper, 'proper' classical concert this week!
2008-04-12 10343, 2008
BrianFreud
hmmm, well, we're working out what a "work" even ought to be, so we can RFC it, so we can RFV it, so we can get it implemented, so we can split "full CSG" off from it, so we can then finish revising "full CSG" and write some basic "short form classical" style on what still should be standardized for tracklists on releases :P
2008-04-12 10343, 2008
yllona
creature: what? that's fabulous!
2008-04-12 10354, 2008
yllona
creature: what did you see?
2008-04-12 10358, 2008
BrianFreud
and who?
2008-04-12 10337, 2008
Freso
Okay. I'm going to bed.
2008-04-12 10337, 2008
creature
I was right in the front row, which is apparently the cheap seats for a classical gig.
2008-04-12 10340, 2008
Freso
G'night all!
2008-04-12 10340, 2008
creature
BRB, phone.
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creature
Back.
2008-04-12 10350, 2008
yllona
creature: so waht was your first classical concert, and by whom?
and andrew litton conducting? what a nice into -- llucky you
2008-04-12 10308, 2008
BrianFreud
good orchestra
2008-04-12 10342, 2008
yllona
creature: are you a student?
2008-04-12 10348, 2008
creature
I was right in front of him. I could have grabbed him by the ankles if I had chosen to.
2008-04-12 10351, 2008
creature
yllona: Not any more.
2008-04-12 10330, 2008
creature
I couldn't watch Stephen Hough hitting the keys, but he was right in front of me too. I could have touched the piano from my seat, and if I'd stood up I could have taken out his shins too.
2008-04-12 10303, 2008
yllona
creature: yes, in some classical venues sitting way down front is not the best place... also depends on your hearing
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yllona
creature: if you're a musician, tho. sitting that close can be very exciting
2008-04-12 10311, 2008
creature
I quite liked it.
2008-04-12 10318, 2008
creature
It would have been nice to be in a position where I could see a score.
2008-04-12 10310, 2008
yllona
creature: that's why i like the 1st level mezzanine... i can still see every thing in the pit, and discreetly peek at the score
2008-04-12 10344, 2008
BrianFreud
I don't mind not seeing the score; I like going to a hall I've been to a few times, so I know about where I want to sit to have the best "sweet spot" for audio
2008-04-12 10304, 2008
yllona
i also have "opera glasses" which basically a fancy name for a tiny, but powerful set of binoculars
2008-04-12 10313, 2008
creature
Yeah, I know opera glasses.
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yllona
but agreeing with BrianFreud, in most venues i like to sit further back and up a bit -- so the sound comes together
2008-04-12 10302, 2008
yllona
but i love to watch the action in the pit :)
2008-04-12 10332, 2008
creature
I would have liked to be able to see the clarinets, as I'm kind of a clarinet player myself.
2008-04-12 10300, 2008
yllona
creature: barbican is a great, legendary venue.
2008-04-12 10324, 2008
yllona
you'll need to be higher up a bit to see the wwodwinds
2008-04-12 10301, 2008
creature
It's very close to where I work, so I imagine I'll be going to some more stuff there.
2008-04-12 10349, 2008
yllona
creature: you're lucky. don't know if the barbican has a "standing-room only" policy, but check and seee
2008-04-12 10324, 2008
creature
I'm pretty sure everyone must be seated.
2008-04-12 10331, 2008
yllona
SRO (standing room) tickets can be as cheap as $10-12 USD here
2008-04-12 10351, 2008
yllona
and some venues will move SRO into empty seats after the first movement (or first act, if opera)
2008-04-12 10320, 2008
yllona
i used to work the hell out of SRO tickets when i was younger :-D
2008-04-12 10351, 2008
creature
I quite enjoyed hearing it close-up, so maybe I can just do that from now on.
2008-04-12 10332, 2008
yllona
creature: if that works for your hearing... perfect
2008-04-12 10344, 2008
yllona
so you caught the tickets for ~$16.00? 8 pounds sterling?
i'm liking long beach opera more & more -- it's the little opera company that could... los angeles opera is world class "grand opera" done exceptionally well. however long beach does the small obscure stuff that i also enjoy. and frederica von stade in recital is a major coup
2008-04-12 10318, 2008
yllona
kinda like getting NIN to play at a church picnic... no kidding
