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      • creature
        That said, though, I *really* like Naxos. I actually have warm fuzzy feelings for their brand.
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      • creature
        Those are fading a bit more now I know some more about the industry (I hear they're more of an aggregator than a label - I don't know how true that is), but I still really like I can buy pretty much any classical piece for a fiver and get something that's competently performed and clearly recorded.
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      • BrianFreud
        just keep in mind that they also distribute for others when you enter events frm them (I've made that error once or twice) - they distribute for BIS, for example
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      • creature
        Did you know you can search Amazon by catalogue number/barcode? I didn't until tonight.
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      • creature
        That'll make my ASIN-hunts quicker.
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      • BrianFreud
        I knew you could for UPC - that's how my ASIN script works.
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      • BrianFreud
        didn't know about cat # though
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      • creature
        Just in general, I wish there was somewhere I could look up what albums have had that pitch-adjustment done on an artist's voice.
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      • creature
        I don't know if this particular album/track has just been run through a slightly subtle vocoder, or if the artist in question can't sing. :)
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      • BrianFreud
        possibly both :P
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      • BrianFreud
        I have one performance of Handel's Messiah which cracks me up each time
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      • BrianFreud
        the soprano sounds identical to Miss Piggy
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      • chefkoch
        chefkoch is now known as chefkoch_AW
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      • creature
        Haha.
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      • creature
        Amazon update: seems I inadvertently lied, and you can't search by catalogue number, just UPC.
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      • creature
        OK, final classical question tonight now, I promise: consider http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Schubert-Works-Cla… . Various Artists or Melos Ensemble?
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      • BrianFreud
        well, cooperaa's RFC never passed, so technically VA - but I don't think anyone would object if you used Melos as the RA
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      • creature
        I might check the liner notes and see if the Melos Ensemble performed on both pieces before doing that.
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      • BrianFreud
        good idea ;)
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      • creature
        Also, gah. The Brahms I just added seems to have had too long a name for my filesystem. :(
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      • creature
        Which seems to have sent Picard a bit nuts in general.
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      • creature
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      • BrianFreud
        Picard should auto-truncate at 255 character paths...
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      • BrianFreud
        yup, it did what it's supposed to
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      • creature
        Why does it do that?
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      • BrianFreud
        Because the total path exceeded 255 characters
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      • BrianFreud
        Linux can handle 255 characters per path subsection, but Windows can't (easily)
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      • FauxFaux
        Well clarified. *puts knife away* :)
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      • creature
        Maybe there should be an "I'm not on a toy OS" option somewhere. :|
      • 2008-04-28 11919, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Crazy file-names are crazy.
      • 2008-04-28 11948, 2008

      • nikki
        creature: I have a script to get a list of releases from amazon.co.jp by searching for catalogue numbers, it's great :D
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      • nikki
        but then I realise I've gotta add them all to mb ¬_¬
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      • BrianFreud
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      • BrianFreud blames MS programmers who didn't correctly extend their own damn shell to override their own default value when they added LFN support
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      • creature
        Glad that it's a known issue.
      • 2008-04-28 11924, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        I hope the irony of using the console to view these insanely long paths isn't lost on you.
      • 2008-04-28 11901, 2008

      • creature
        I have some tracks on this release by 'Camerata St. Petersburg, Orchestra of the State Hermitage'. Is that one group or two?
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      • BrianFreud
        Google might know :)
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      • creature
        Yeah, I'll research it myself if I have to.
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      • aCiD2
        Oh god chicken mayo & letuce sandwich why are you always so GOOD to me
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      • aCiD2
        nom nom nom
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      • FauxFaux
        Om nom.
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      • creature
        OK, I lied when I said it was my final classical question. With http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Schubert-Works-Cla… as a VA release, what would the release title be?
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      • creature suggests "Brahms Clarinet Sonatas Nos. 1-2 / Schumann Fantasiestücke and Märchenerzählungen (Melos Ensemble feat. clarinet: Gervase de Peyer, piano: Daniel Barenboim)"
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      • BrianFreud would drop the composer names, but otherwise looks good
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      • chefkoch
        chefkoch is now known as chefkoch_AW
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      • creature
        BrianFreud: Will do. Many thanks.
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      • nikki rolls around
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      • creature
        Is there any reason MB doesn't set the genre tag for me? Or even, it seems, try to capture that in the database?
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      • creature
        Is that just to avoid the myriad arguments that would ensue?
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      • ruaok
        the latter.
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      • ruaok
        collaborative genres are an oxymoron.
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      • nikki does not understand genres
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      • creature
        I was just thinking, "wouldn't it be awesome if the 'browse by genre' bit on my ipod was actually sane."
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      • ruaok
        browse by folksonomy tag is more reasonable....
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      • creature
        I've seen the Last.fm tag-as-genre plugin. I'll give it a whirl.
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      • pbryan
        Wow, switching from RDF to XML web service was fun.
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      • pbryan
        Especially the part where I had to compute the disc ID myself. :)
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      • ruaok
        pbryan: that's what you're supposed to use libdiscid for
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      • drsaunde wonders is ruaok is still horticulturally coiffed
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      • drsaunde
        *if
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      • ruaok
        yep , but its fading and will be replaced tomorrow.
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      • ruaok
        traveling internationally with this haircut would be... stupid.
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      • ruaok
        the djermans wouldn't care. the brits probably not either.
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      • drsaunde
        nothing says cavity search like....
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      • ruaok
        but coming back to the US would be bad.
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      • ruaok
        yep!
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      • Creap has quit
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      • petros
        How so? What's the realistically worst that could happen? Seriously.
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      • ruaok
        gitmo, I would guess.
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      • ruaok
        us authorities are rabid, cornered and unpredictable animals. Anything can happen and I am not interested in what could happen worst case. fuck that noise.
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      • petros
        Heh.
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      • ruaok
        have you entered the US before?
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      • petros
        ruaok: Long time ago. in '96 and '98.
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      • ruaok
        different world now.
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      • petros
        No hassles at all, but then again I look like your typical WASP
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      • BrianFreud1
        Imagine trying to fly into Israel in the 90's, and multiply the annoyance factor by 10
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      • ruaok
        lol.
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • srotta
        I'm trying to avoid US if possible.
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      • petros
        Would be a great headline though: "Man arrested on suspicion of subversive haircut"
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      • ruaok
        the security theater is impressive.
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      • ruaok
        srotta: smart man!
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      • ruaok wishes he could
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      • srotta
        I'm not too happy about the information gathering, and the rituals are just plain dumb.
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      • BrianFreud1
        I drive in to Canada, the Canadians barely glance at me.
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      • srotta
        Unfortunately that's the way it goes on just about every airport these days.
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      • BrianFreud1
        I drive back alone, the US barely glances at me.
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      • BrianFreud1
        I drive back with Chantal in the car, it's time for 200 questions, just to make sure she's not trying to sneak in to live here with me
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      • ruaok
        stupid.
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      • BrianFreud1
        yeah, you'd think we're the first couple in history with one person living on each side of the border
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      • BrianFreud1
        BrianFreud1 is now known as BrianFreud
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      • srotta
        You probably are.
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      • srotta
        After the 9/11 I went to Stockholm. Flying there was no problem, but when we came back a colleague of mine had to leave his keychain there, because it had a small knife in it.
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      • srotta
        I asked if they want to take away my pens too, since they are at least as lethal weapons, but the guys weren't amused.
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      • srotta
        And we're talking about a flight between Sweden and Finland...
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      • petros
        I wouldn't exactly be joking, ironic nor sarcastic about security issues in an airport. We had a person when asked if he anything to declare, jokingly talking about declaring a bomb. Not a wise move.
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      • petros
        He had a court appearance :)
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      • srotta
        There's a difference in joking about bombs and pointing out the idiocy. Of course that doesn't mean the latter is smart either, what with the guys flexing their latex-gloved fingers etc.
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      • srotta
        On the other hand, I've never really understood the hysteric fear of bombs in aeroplane.
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      • srotta
        There's the psychological side of being all alone in the air with nowhere to go to, but put that same bomb in a ship or a train and you'll easily cause more damage.
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      • srotta
        But you rarely see people being turned inside out in train stations.
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      • srotta
        And somewhere a bunch of red LEDs is lighting up as we speak.
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      • warp
        :D
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      • BrianFreud
        BrianFreud is now known as NSA_monitor
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      • NSA_monitor
        NSA_monitor is now known as BrianFreud
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      • BrianFreud
        :P
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      • creature
        Security theatre, innit? Bruce Schneier writes a lot on the topic.
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      • creature
        The appearance of doing something is more important than actually doing something.
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      • srotta
        creature: Yeah, another name for it is "politics".
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      • srotta
        But that's typical in all areas. Appearances mean more than actual facts.
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      • juhae
        POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.