#musicbrainz

and catalyst is very lightweight, if you use only the core parts

since we don't need ORM or things like that

so for us it's not really a "MVC" framework

it's even possible to use mason from catalyst, but I don't think we will need that

it was quite simple to get it running, though

Right, and will it be ok to run Mason alongside Catalylist?

(as development progresses kinda thing)

of course, since they will use different webservers :)

ah, thought so :)

I'll have a play with Catalyst over the next week then, along with TT

there is not really much to play with

maybe so, but I still need to have the slightest clue what I'm doing at some point

before starting work seems sensible :)

sure, but I think it will be obvious when you see it

I was working on a simple catalyst setup this weekend, to play nicely with the current MB codebase

any hiccups?

not really, but we can't use all the standard catalyst tools

so it needs some work to integrate e.g. sessions, logins, etc.

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anyone has a ripper to suggest? i was about to try sound juicer

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orogor: ping!

pong

i settled on sound juicer

I guess you're on linux, but I think the best is still EAC running through Wine

Sound Juicer is not secure

seems likt it s simple enought and works

how comes , not secure ?

local root exploit?

no, not that kind of secure

secure as in secure ripper

at least I don't think it is

one sec

secure ripping ensures you really do get what's on the cd

aCiD2, it s a front end to cdparanoia, would cdparanoia not be "secure" ?

I thought it might be

well, cdparanoia is known to have issues with caching drives, but it can do secure rips

You could just use cdex and stop being paranoid, y'know.

You have the media, just re-rip it if it sounds bad.

FauxFaux: rip once rip right!

eww

C...D... whassat?

humm i dont think there s cdex on linux

the whole point of archiving is in case the cd is damaged

but yes i guess on windows i d use that

what you use is re-ripping then?

Of course, what your brain actually cares about is the crc of the audio data coming into your ears.

that's not the point

it's no extra effort to get a secure rip, so why wouldn't I want one?

Well, your method seems to involve not listening to a newly ripped CD on loop until the next one arrives.

huh?

There is extra effort, you have to use software that's fucking shit, like maybe EAC.

running EAC on linux _is_ extra effort

Which won't even load here (Vista 64).

I'm not on linux

anyway, I've really gotta get some sleep.... 30 hours awake is taking it's toll now :P

:) i guess youd better go sleep , yes

aCiD2, girl

aCiD2, stay up until the summit, you can sleep on the train here

You'll be fiiiiine

Muz: can be if you want, we'll sort that out next week

aCiD2, can you do your hair in a pooooony tail?

Grrra aaaa domaged cd !!

damaged

Helllll

a full album lost

moisture in the cd, bwwa

ripping a cd is like having sex. If you do it right, yo only need to do it once .... wait a minute

yhea, that was a bad comparison..

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Ripping a CD is much like making love to a beautiful woman

[/swiss toni]

Hehe.

Ripping a CD is much like eating an orange.

Ripping a CD is much like riding a pony

:D

(A lot of old nonsense. I mean, who buys CDs anyway?!)

:)

i am very happy, ripping a very rare bob marley Cd i didn t listened to since maybe 10 years

basically it s the same songs everyone know, but witht he volumes of the sound table adjusted differently for each instruments and some additional (minimalistic) effects

comes from a 4 cd compile that my dad hat for 3 euro at the flea market

unfortunatly i ve been stolen a cd or can t find it anymore and i lost the book (or was it stolen as well)

Hoho, seems there s 3 disks only as from musicbrainz, so maybe idont lack one

just adding the tocs as there s non for theses disks

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i think i ll pass on the compiles, too bad i dont have the babylon by bus vynil

vinyl

Hi gang, it's mikemorr. Any database wizards around?

(SQL etc)

FauxFaux!

why so?

I put on my robe and wizards hat

Muz that sounds like some bash quote

orogor, perhaps it's a reference to one ;)

Clueless newbie at db/server/etc stuff here.

who knows ..

well what s the issue

OK this is offtopic for this channel but I am trying to help someone out-- they are using a billing application which was apparently built using Visual Fox Pro.