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      • warp
        muz: i know there is a track in the database which has trackname (remix) , but the ')' is actually a mirrored '(' because most browsers for some reason flip parentheses back to normal if there is LTR on one side and RTL on the other.
      • 2008-05-12 13316, 2008

      • warp
        alastairp: there are three musicbrainz soc projects, i think there is a post on the blog which points at each of the soc student blogs.
      • 2008-05-12 13312, 2008

      • alastairp
        warp: ah, yep
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      • Freso
        Speaking of... FauxFaux?
      • 2008-05-12 13305, 2008

      • Muz
        \o/ Yay finally got external access to my home dev machine through a long series of reverse ssh tunnels and port forwards
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • warp
        lol
      • 2008-05-12 13325, 2008

      • alastairp
        haha, that's always fun
      • 2008-05-12 13359, 2008

      • Muz
        Thinking about it, I'm 7 miles away from my home machine, yet this connection is going from here, to Germany, to the States and back to London :P
      • 2008-05-12 13301, 2008

      • warp
        i can use warp [at frob.nl] for both email and ssh, and it's my host on irc too. \o/
      • 2008-05-12 13318, 2008

      • warp
        muz: why?
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      • Muz
        warp, stupidly anal firewall issues within the office and my home connection being flaky, so two hops are needed
      • 2008-05-12 13314, 2008

      • warp
        ok
      • 2008-05-12 13334, 2008

      • alastairp
        Muz: so, you can't ssh out from the office, but you can in?
      • 2008-05-12 13353, 2008

      • Muz
        I can do out of the office, and out of my home machine, but not in on either
      • 2008-05-12 13310, 2008

      • alastairp
        ah,
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • alastairp
        sounds like your home network needs some haxxing :)
      • 2008-05-12 13326, 2008

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      • Muz
        Heh
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • alastairp
        since I moved I haven't been able to get my network back up to how it was
      • 2008-05-12 13314, 2008

      • alastairp
        new flatmates get a little suspicious when I leave machines on in the wardrobe
      • 2008-05-12 13329, 2008

      • Muz
        Heheh
      • 2008-05-12 13342, 2008

      • alastairp
        "it's not going to catch the house on fire is it?!"
      • 2008-05-12 13355, 2008

      • warp
        general consumer pcs are quiet enough for the bedroom IMO
      • 2008-05-12 13357, 2008

      • srotta
        "Yes, it probably will."
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • Muz
        warp, nowadays maybe
      • 2008-05-12 13330, 2008

      • srotta
        Well, you get used to it. And some models (and some manufacturers) are quieter than others.
      • 2008-05-12 13331, 2008

      • warp
        i'm about to replace my old celeron with an old compaq dual pIII server, which definitely isn't :)
      • 2008-05-12 13335, 2008

      • Muz
        I've got some Pentium IIs in my living room that sound like a wind tunnel when they're turned on
      • 2008-05-12 13344, 2008

      • alastairp
        warp: this is an old duron with a mad psu and 4 disks :(
      • 2008-05-12 13350, 2008

      • alastairp
        s/mad/bad/
      • 2008-05-12 13353, 2008

      • Muz
        They also need the side taken off of the case for optimal cooling
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • srotta
        I have a P4 in livingroom and Athlon X2 in my study.
      • 2008-05-12 13359, 2008

      • Muz
        Which makes it louder yet heh
      • 2008-05-12 13302, 2008

      • srotta
        And a Core Dual for desktop use. :P
      • 2008-05-12 13329, 2008

      • srotta
        The loudest is X2, but that's mostly because it has six HDDs inside.
      • 2008-05-12 13339, 2008

      • warp
        muz: really? i thought that was worse for the airflow
      • 2008-05-12 13352, 2008

      • warp
        (depends on the case ofcourse)
      • 2008-05-12 13353, 2008

      • alastairp
        warp: "optimal" :)
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • Muz
        these cases are... well... crap
      • 2008-05-12 13337, 2008

      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        I think this is a far better solution than ssh tunnels
      • 2008-05-12 13353, 2008

      • Muz
        alastairp, hahah
      • 2008-05-12 13307, 2008

      • Muz
        Unfortunately, there's no clear line of sight from the office to home, too many tall buildings in the way
      • 2008-05-12 13317, 2008

      • alastairp
        doh
      • 2008-05-12 13342, 2008

      • Muz
        If you could find a 7 mile stretch of land with a clear line of sight in London, I'd be surprised
      • 2008-05-12 13349, 2008

      • alastairp
        most of them use visible light, that's awesome
      • 2008-05-12 13311, 2008

      • alastairp
        hmm, true
      • 2008-05-12 13319, 2008

      • alastairp
        you don't work in a high enough building :)
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      • FauxFaux
        Freso?
      • 2008-05-12 13338, 2008

      • Freso
        FauxFaux: What was the link to the planet page again? :)
      • 2008-05-12 13350, 2008

      • FauxFaux
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      • FauxFaux
        Muzzz: Re: scrollback, I'm sure someone claimed it was fine on the latest versions.
      • 2008-05-12 13338, 2008

      • CatCat
        hi fauxfaux
      • 2008-05-12 13347, 2008

      • CatCat
        \o/
      • 2008-05-12 13350, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        \o/
      • 2008-05-12 13310, 2008

      • CatCat
        oh gods i'm going to do that for reals everytime i do it in irc now becasue of you
      • 2008-05-12 13309, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Tee hee.
      • 2008-05-12 13335, 2008

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      • aCiD2
        Muz: in regards to right to left, me and nikki spoke about that on the way to summit on saturday :)
      • 2008-05-12 13301, 2008

      • aCiD2
        I made sure to avoid mentioning it at the summit :D
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      • Muz
        aCiD2, or rob would have kicked you in the face :D
      • 2008-05-12 13335, 2008

      • aCiD2
        haha
      • 2008-05-12 13359, 2008

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      • Muz
        [11:05] <FauxFaux> Muzzz: Re: scrollback, I'm sure someone claimed it was fine on the latest versions. <-- lolwut?
      • 2008-05-12 13309, 2008

      • Muz
        In regards to what FauxFaux? :P
      • 2008-05-12 13316, 2008

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      • aCiD2 wonders the same :P
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      • FauxFaux
        11/23:22:19 < Muzzz> FauxFaux: do you know if the MB server runs fine on PGSQL 8.4?
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      • FauxFaux
        But, yeah, as you said, it's not exactly out yet. :p
      • 2008-05-12 13310, 2008

      • Muz
        Ahhhh that
      • 2008-05-12 13317, 2008

      • Muz
        Yeah, I've got it running on 8.3 now :)
      • 2008-05-12 13325, 2008

      • Muz
        Replication is broken because of a foreign key restraint
      • 2008-05-12 13325, 2008

      • aCiD2
        I'm on 8.2.7 I think
      • 2008-05-12 13336, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Was your failure at importing being caused by that, you think?
      • 2008-05-12 13339, 2008

      • aCiD2
        and couldn't import all of the dumps
      • 2008-05-12 13343, 2008

      • CatCat
        wah
      • 2008-05-12 13348, 2008

      • Muz
        My failure was caused by me using 7.4
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • Muz
        Didn't support those unicode chars
      • 2008-05-12 13359, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Hehe.
      • 2008-05-12 13302, 2008

      • Muz
        Compiled 8.3 and all is well
      • 2008-05-12 13308, 2008

      • Muz
        (other than the foriegn key badger)
      • 2008-05-12 13315, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Compiled? Wtf distro are you using? :(
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • Muz
        Lesbian!
      • 2008-05-12 13322, 2008

      • aCiD2 complies it all
      • 2008-05-12 13324, 2008

      • aCiD2
        <3 Gentoo
      • 2008-05-12 13331, 2008

      • Muz
        8.3 wasn't in repositories
      • 2008-05-12 13332, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        8.2 and 8.3 are in the repository.
      • 2008-05-12 13339, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        know, 'cos I'm using them.
      • 2008-05-12 13340, 2008

      • Muz
        aCiD2, you're digging yourself a hole. First perl, and now Gentoo?!
      • 2008-05-12 13348, 2008

      • aCiD2
        And I hack in Emacs!
      • 2008-05-12 13352, 2008

      • aCiD2
        And I own a Zune!
      • 2008-05-12 13300, 2008

      • Muz
        FauxFaux, hmmm, I would take you up on that, but I can't ssh home anymore, I think my home connection dropped :|
      • 2008-05-12 13303, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        You're doing it so massively wrong.
      • 2008-05-12 13304, 2008

      • aCiD2
        You guys failed to raise me correctly
      • 2008-05-12 13306, 2008

      • Muz
        aCiD2, you're all that's wrong with the world
      • 2008-05-12 13312, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Yeah, packages.debian.org is down, too.
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • Muz
        DOWNTIME DAY \o/
      • 2008-05-12 13330, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Oh, you're Lesbian site is down? Hmmm emerg --sync is fine..
      • 2008-05-12 13333, 2008

      • aCiD2 whistles
      • 2008-05-12 13313, 2008

      • Muz
        aCiD2, in the amount of time it takes for you to compile all that, the repo'll be back :)
      • 2008-05-12 13316, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        aCiD2: All the mirrors are fine, it's just the repo data search page, which would contain a big thing (http://packages.debian.org/postgresql-8.3) that tells you what versions it's in. =p
      • 2008-05-12 13322, 2008

      • Muz
        (YAy for a fortnight leighway)
      • 2008-05-12 13300, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Hah, it loaded here. 8.3.1-1 is in testing, 8.3.1-2+b1 in unstable.
      • 2008-05-12 13321, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        And 8.3.1-1~bpo40+1 in backports, if you really don't want to run a pro version.
      • 2008-05-12 13324, 2008

      • Muz
        I'm using Lesbian stable :( I'm a loon, I know
      • 2008-05-12 13332, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Enotpro.
      • 2008-05-12 13339, 2008

      • Muz has fun work today... compiling notes into long documents
      • 2008-05-12 13318, 2008

      • FauxFaux has even more fun.. I was supposed to be going through a past paper, but actually doesn't know enough of hte course to contribute. :/
      • 2008-05-12 13348, 2008

      • CatCat
        how long is a fortnight? woman on the plane next to me home said 14 days???
      • 2008-05-12 13310, 2008

      • CatCat
        i thought it was like 2 days
      • 2008-05-12 13313, 2008

      • Muz
        2 weeks
      • 2008-05-12 13315, 2008

      • Muz
        So yeah, 14 days
      • 2008-05-12 13318, 2008

      • CatCat
        lhmph
      • 2008-05-12 13321, 2008

      • Muz
        Fort as in forteen
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      • CatCat
        silly
      • 2008-05-12 13349, 2008

      • CatCat
        what you call the bith where you get there the one dy, sleep stay the whole next day and then leave the next day?
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • CatCat
        like i did in england
      • 2008-05-12 13320, 2008

      • Muz
        "madness"?
      • 2008-05-12 13342, 2008

      • CatCat
        what *should* I have done then, muzmuz?
      • 2008-05-12 13351, 2008

      • Muz
        Stayed for longer \o/
      • 2008-05-12 13309, 2008

      • CatCat
        yea, i wanted to, but my cats would starve :(
      • 2008-05-12 13303, 2008

      • CatCat
        next time i'll arrange for someone comming to feed and clean up in theri toilet
      • 2008-05-12 13317, 2008

      • CatCat
        i can stay longer then
      • 2008-05-12 13308, 2008

      • CatCat
        the only stuff i watch nowa days are on mondays and wednesdays
      • 2008-05-12 13326, 2008

      • LotR has quit
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      • aCiD2
        Can anyone clarify exactly what work the BBC are doing - is it just packages?
      • 2008-05-12 13352, 2008

      • warp
        aCiD2: packages?
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      • warp
        what i understood at the summit: they're working on what they are calling 'cultural identifiers'
      • 2008-05-12 13329, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Which is another name for package, I thought
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      • warp
        a cultural identifier is a stable mbid which represents e.g. a certain studio album, all different versions or releases will have that same cultural identifier.
      • 2008-05-12 13354, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Yes, I think that's a package
      • 2008-05-12 13303, 2008

      • warp
        ok, i have no idea what a package is in NGS :)
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      • aCiD2
        I remember someone saying "which name do we prefer, cultural id or package"
      • 2008-05-12 13308, 2008

      • aCiD2
        heh
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      • warp
        well, rob doesn't like cultural id, and the BBC is open for suggestions on that topic iirc
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      • aCiD2
        I don't like it either, but eh, it's just terminology