#musicbrainz

i'd like you to check

sure

ah yes.. i've seen that a lot with firefox 2 on mac.

i forgot about the third character in the first syllable.. (there is no third character, but apparantly unicode has some sort of placeholder codepoint for it)

is FF3 different?

ruaok: yes.

ok, looks less confusing to the untrained eye. :-)

indeed, though i'm sure it aided in your understanding of hangul :P

yes. its fucked up in its own special way. :)

thanks much for your guidance.

np

now I'm back to the how the hell do we index/score aliases

hmm

the "Sony BMG Music entertainment" label says 'file no releases'

who do I use?

alastairp: that's the parent company

as such, it's listed on CD covers and such, but the label/subsidiary should also be listed

yllona: can't find a subsidary

alastairp: who's the artist, what's the album

ah

sony bmg music ent. (nz) ?

yep.

look for the NZ subsidiary to start, but i'm guessing that sony/bmg is just the distributor in this case

so that's definitely nit "the label"

*not "the label"

yeah, it says disctibuted by...

it's very light on other information

alastairp: if you can stand the noise, check out the band's myspace page. i couldn't stand the noise

yllona: yeah, I try not to visit myspace :-P

My brother gave me the CD, I haven't listened to it yet...

myspace offends me on so many levels, that i don't know where to start

let's not, then

virb.com is apparently the hot new thing for bands to use

laterz

oh man, 88 £ the order, 35 £ shipping... plus vat --> 143 £

:(

at least you have a £ key :)

actually i don't, although the crap keyboard would like to believe that

right

ok, I need to run to be on the airport on time

somebody please poke aCiD2 about coding from time to time for me, please :)

be back in two weeks

haha

:D

metacode: on_public { if ($sender =~ /acid2/i) { say "GET OFF IRC AND CODE!" }

LotR: hihi :)

LotR: actually.. i could probably use one directed at me :(

:)

\o/

http://musicbrainz.homeip.net/search/textsearch... <-- ruaok, cool, it works even with a space, mblive doesnt

nakazawa yuuko <3

warp: well, they don't put spaces between surnames and first names at least :/

nikki: stop talking to warp, he's coding! ;)

pfft

nikki: ah, no. but there is no need either, korean names are _always_ three syllables. (the first being the family name).

LotR: coding at work though.. which is not nearly as important as coding at home :)

right. sheesh

warp: but the search doesn't know that :/ you can't find all the artists with the same surname for example

it seems to be working better for japanese at least

although it doesn't seem to be prioritising results where the characters appear together in the same order

http://musicbrainz.homeip.net/search/textsearch... <- like here, they're not even in the same words for the first result

and putting a space between the names finally finds the artist :D http://musicbrainz.homeip.net/search/textsearch...

nikki: yes, it is starting to dawn on me that this whole searching stuff is more complicated than I imagined.

I wonder what adjustments (if any) are made by native speakers of these languages when performing Internet searches? Have they learned from experience with current search technology (on Google etc.) that it helps to add/omit spaces, quotation marks, etc. when searching?

In other words, I'm all for improving the search engine, but I wonder if we also can get better results by constructing our search queries more like a native speaker would?

hmm... particles like eun/neun and i/ga are attached to the word, aren't they?

mikemorr: well, we'd need some native speakers :)

nikki: +1

either way, a native speaker doesn't expect to have to enter the entire name exactly like we have it to find what they want

dunno about other searches, but google's quite good at finding all sorts of variants

nikki: er, yes.

doesnt last.fm have jaapnese?

we could ask what they do?

Our search server runs on black magic and is an unknown art to most of us now

http://www.bustedtees.com/Wikipedia :)

I prefer http://bash.org/?757724

xlotlu: ping!

pong

aha :)

Free to talk about mb_server xhtml magicness?

of course

great :) Well, I'm curious how you want to do this - at the moment I'm working by taking the stuff from htdocs, writing a controller to parse the data, and then constructing a template, abstracting common stuff if need be

so you totally throw away the old templates

indeed

well.. umm... :)

ok

heh

so what I was thinking, if we coordinated work quite tightly and decided on an order of how to tackle this, then I colud write the controllers, and you work on the templates as you get time

you auto-generate the templates when you generate the "view"?

no

you have to hand write the templates, the view is just the bit that gets stuff from the controller to the template, and returns it to the browser (in this case, we don't even write the views)

catalyst comes with TTView that does all that stuff for you, so we only need to write controllers and templates atm - no models, no views

Use PHP and Smarrrrrty!

I'll use your mum if don't shush

Hot

if you don't*

:P

use cat and sed :P

use python djangooooo!

*and

Django templates have got nothing on Template Toolkit :P

Easily the most powerful templating system I've seen

Annnnnyway :P

phatmonkey: actually django's template system is one of the worse i've ever come across

(but django rules so don't flame me) :P

haha

xlotlu: have you used TT at all?

it's good - it's just for simple people

You might want to check out some of the templates I've written if not, especially the user profile page - that uses quite a lot of TT features

aCiD2: i had to edit some view:tt templates a while ago. never coded it though

and i don't intend to :)

that's fine, you don't need to do that :)

aCiD2: where are they? have you got a repository or something?

Indeed

Templates in /root

aCiD2: you said bzr