#musicbrainz

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      • warp
        haha
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        <3
      • 2008-06-05 15744, 2008

      • futurist2
        muzz how do you m ean? they have multiple databases?
      • 2008-06-05 15700, 2008

      • Muzzz
        futurist2: we collect different metadata from different sources
      • 2008-06-05 15720, 2008

      • Muzzz
        Like artist information, track titles, release data, external related site, band members etc etc
      • 2008-06-05 15706, 2008

      • outsidecontext has left the channel
      • 2008-06-05 15705, 2008

      • warp is slightly dissapointed with opera.
      • 2008-06-05 15718, 2008

      • xlotlu joined the channel
      • 2008-06-05 15732, 2008

      • CatCat
        :o
      • 2008-06-05 15748, 2008

      • CatCat
        that site is useless for i dont use ebay
      • 2008-06-05 15733, 2008

      • CatCat
        Muzzz: who do i need ot bribe (with what) at last.fm to have my name on last.fm changed to "Zaphodbeeblebox"?
      • 2008-06-05 15742, 2008

      • Muzzz
        No one, it can't and won't be done
      • 2008-06-05 15746, 2008

      • CatCat
        damnation
      • 2008-06-05 15707, 2008

      • Muzzz
        That said, i want "muz" on MB :(
      • 2008-06-05 15719, 2008

      • warp
        :)
      • 2008-06-05 15719, 2008

      • CatCat
        but you can bribe ruaok to do that
      • 2008-06-05 15726, 2008

      • CatCat *whiines*
      • 2008-06-05 15732, 2008

      • Muzzz
        Our database is a lot more complex than MBs though
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • Muzzz
        *databases
      • 2008-06-05 15737, 2008

      • CatCat
        :(
      • 2008-06-05 15709, 2008

      • Muzzz
        I'd qiute happily say the code base is too, but then again, MB is written in Perl... ¬_¬
      • 2008-06-05 15714, 2008

      • CatCat
        !money 1.04 GBP NOK
      • 2008-06-05 15715, 2008

      • BrainzBot
        1.04 GBP = 10.3953304 NOK
      • 2008-06-05 15745, 2008

      • CatCat
        has anybody bought anythngi of ebay?
      • 2008-06-05 15751, 2008

      • warp _o/
      • 2008-06-05 15752, 2008

      • CatCat
        how does it work?
      • 2008-06-05 15703, 2008

      • CatCat
        and what are the likelyhood of beign screwed over?
      • 2008-06-05 15716, 2008

      • CatCat
        lol this cs costs 10 kroner
      • 2008-06-05 15725, 2008

      • CatCat
      • 2008-06-05 15742, 2008

      • warp
        first, check out the feedback of the seller. if it's below 98%, log in, look at the negative feedback on that user in the last 12 months.
      • 2008-06-05 15756, 2008

      • CatCat
        oh, i need to register?
      • 2008-06-05 15757, 2008

      • CatCat
        :/
      • 2008-06-05 15718, 2008

      • CatCat
        ebay sweeden?
      • 2008-06-05 15726, 2008

      • warp
        e.g. when buying GBA games or anime DVDs. sellers with a rating below 98% is a good indication that they're selling bootlegs. (wwhich means that 97% of the buyers don't even fucking notice).
      • 2008-06-05 15744, 2008

      • CatCat
        wow
      • 2008-06-05 15746, 2008

      • CatCat
        ooh
      • 2008-06-05 15749, 2008

      • CatCat
        warp!
      • 2008-06-05 15714, 2008

      • CatCat
        do peopel sell pokemon yellow on ebay?
      • 2008-06-05 15719, 2008

      • warp
        probably.
      • 2008-06-05 15722, 2008

      • CatCat
        :O
      • 2008-06-05 15741, 2008

      • warp
        CatCat: yes, you need to register. the system will keep feedback on you too.
      • 2008-06-05 15747, 2008

      • CatCat
        hmm
      • 2008-06-05 15725, 2008

      • CatCat
      • 2008-06-05 15731, 2008

      • warp
        don't trust sellers who don't have paypal as an option. paypal has fairly decent buyer protection, and you can open a dispute and get your money back.
      • 2008-06-05 15740, 2008

      • CatCat
        hmm
      • 2008-06-05 15757, 2008

      • CatCat *rather* does the safe rout and get it from amazon
      • 2008-06-05 15757, 2008

      • warp
        if a seller only wants e.g. western union or bank transfer... avoid. they're avoiding paypal for a reason.
      • 2008-06-05 15705, 2008

      • CatCat
        yea
      • 2008-06-05 15720, 2008

      • warp
        but if you know those things, buying from ebay can be worth it.
      • 2008-06-05 15733, 2008

      • CatCat is to intimidated by autions
      • 2008-06-05 15750, 2008

      • CatCat
        if a cd costs 10 kroner.. there *is* a catch
      • 2008-06-05 15751, 2008

      • warp
        especially if you find lots of things on ebay cheap... then the savings make up for the occasional item which doesn't fit the description.
      • 2008-06-05 15705, 2008

      • CatCat doesnt liek the risk
      • 2008-06-05 15743, 2008

      • warp
        if the cd is used, it could be scratched or otherwise damaged. people tend to say 'light scratches' when the disc is horribly scratched.
      • 2008-06-05 15748, 2008

      • CatCat
        but thansk very much for the information
      • 2008-06-05 15716, 2008

      • warp
        CatCat: i do buy a fair amount of things on ebay, for me it's worth it.
      • 2008-06-05 15722, 2008

      • CatCat
        ah yes :)
      • 2008-06-05 15740, 2008

      • CatCat
        loi, if yo uget a hold of pokemon yellow cheap you can buy it me and i can send you money for it :P
      • 2008-06-05 15715, 2008

      • nikki
        hey warp, hei mo
      • 2008-06-05 15731, 2008

      • CatCat
        hi nikki nikki
      • 2008-06-05 15752, 2008

      • warp
        CatCat: do you have a local ebay-like site in norway?
      • 2008-06-05 15731, 2008

      • CatCat
        :C no
      • 2008-06-05 15700, 2008

      • CatCat
        !money £5.50 NOK
      • 2008-06-05 15701, 2008

      • BrainzBot
        See !help exchange
      • 2008-06-05 15709, 2008

      • CatCat
        !money 5.50 GBP NOK
      • 2008-06-05 15709, 2008

      • BrainzBot
        5.50 GBP = 54.98735 NOK
      • 2008-06-05 15713, 2008

      • CatCat
        ....
      • 2008-06-05 15721, 2008

      • CatCat
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      • warp
        in .nl we have www.marktplaats.nl (marketplace) and www.speurders.nl. I like using those for bigger stuff, because they often have phone numbers and I can just call and arrange things... and go there to pick it up, so I can inspect it before buying.
      • 2008-06-05 15750, 2008

      • futurist2
        Muzz oh you work for last.fm?
      • 2008-06-05 15758, 2008

      • CatCat
        yea.. i dont know. maybe we have something liek this here. i wouldnt know :s
      • 2008-06-05 15717, 2008

      • CatCat sucks so much
      • 2008-06-05 15739, 2008

      • futurist2
        warp waht's wrong with opera?
      • 2008-06-05 15702, 2008

      • Muzzz
        futurist2: yeah
      • 2008-06-05 15718, 2008

      • warp
        futurist2: crashes just often as firefox, and is only slightly faster.
      • 2008-06-05 15733, 2008

      • CatCat
        waep: buh? wich versino is that?
      • 2008-06-05 15737, 2008

      • warp
        (that's ignoring a few interface tidbits)
      • 2008-06-05 15748, 2008

      • futurist2
        warp really? i've never had opera crash
      • 2008-06-05 15750, 2008

      • futurist2
        what platform?
      • 2008-06-05 15712, 2008

      • warp
        CatCat: firefox 3 betas. opera 9.5 beta.
      • 2008-06-05 15716, 2008

      • futurist2
        on a very slow compoert, opera is wayy faster
      • 2008-06-05 15719, 2008

      • warp
        futurist2: mac os x leopard.
      • 2008-06-05 15724, 2008

      • futurist2
        *computer
      • 2008-06-05 15724, 2008

      • CatCat
        7
      • 2008-06-05 15732, 2008

      • futurist2
        on a fast computer, it's less noticeable
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • CatCat testemoans to that being a fact
      • 2008-06-05 15742, 2008

      • CatCat
        was uber fast on el me
      • 2008-06-05 15752, 2008

      • futurist2
        but you can run opera on like a 486, basicallky
      • 2008-06-05 15757, 2008

      • futurist2
        and still hav ea billion tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15701, 2008

      • nikki
        I've never had a problem with ebay and I mostly follow what warp said
      • 2008-06-05 15710, 2008

      • futurist2
        not literally a billion, but easily 30
      • 2008-06-05 15730, 2008

      • CatCat is run on opera on mac os x 10.4 and has billions of tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15739, 2008

      • warp
        maybe i need to open more tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15745, 2008

      • CatCat
        but opera 9.21
      • 2008-06-05 15751, 2008

      • warp
        i almost always have < 20 tabs.
      • 2008-06-05 15752, 2008

      • futurist2
        warp yeah it's on lots of tabs that you notie the difference
      • 2008-06-05 15756, 2008

      • nikki
        I'm using 9.5b and 10.4
      • 2008-06-05 15758, 2008

      • CatCat
        what version warp?
      • 2008-06-05 15703, 2008

      • nikki
        and too many tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15707, 2008

      • futurist2
        opera is for us a.d.d. types :p
      • 2008-06-05 15708, 2008

      • CatCat
        to many tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15717, 2008

      • CatCat
        futurist2: who yo ucalling ADD?
      • 2008-06-05 15720, 2008

      • CatCat has ADHD
      • 2008-06-05 15721, 2008

      • futurist2
        heheh
      • 2008-06-05 15724, 2008

      • CatCat
        :D
      • 2008-06-05 15725, 2008

      • nikki
        29 at the moment
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • warp has 2 at the moment.
      • 2008-06-05 15744, 2008

      • warp
        but it just crashed about 10 minutes ago...
      • 2008-06-05 15746, 2008

      • futurist2 has 5
      • 2008-06-05 15748, 2008

      • nikki
        weird
      • 2008-06-05 15751, 2008

      • warp
        i blame flash
      • 2008-06-05 15756, 2008

      • warp
        but that's just a feeling :)
      • 2008-06-05 15759, 2008

      • futurist2
        warp really.. i can't remember opera ever crashing for me
      • 2008-06-05 15700, 2008

      • nikki
        could be, I disabled flash
      • 2008-06-05 15704, 2008

      • CatCat
        i have.. 54 tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15715, 2008

      • CatCat
        open
      • 2008-06-05 15720, 2008

      • CatCat had to count
      • 2008-06-05 15722, 2008

      • warp
        futurist2: are you on a mac? watch a lot of youtube? ;)
      • 2008-06-05 15725, 2008

      • CatCat
        could be one or two off
      • 2008-06-05 15726, 2008

      • futurist2
        btw it's possible to use google web history and diigo on opera, which are the main useful extensions
      • 2008-06-05 15744, 2008

      • futurist2
        warp tablet pc, read a lot of pdfs
      • 2008-06-05 15746, 2008

      • srotta
        I sometimes have around 300 tabs open :P
      • 2008-06-05 15748, 2008

      • CatCat
        also i have safari open with 4 tabs as last fm is beign wonky in oepra
      • 2008-06-05 15752, 2008

      • nikki
        my opera only crashes occasionally, even then I get all my tabs back in seconds
      • 2008-06-05 15703, 2008

      • futurist2
        and opera also has a java thing similar to downthemall
      • 2008-06-05 15710, 2008

      • CatCat
        but thats to do with soem cookie or soemthing, becasue the flash tingy thinsk im logged otu even thoghu im not
      • 2008-06-05 15718, 2008

      • Creap has quit
      • 2008-06-05 15723, 2008

      • futurist2
        the only think to reccomend ff is various extensions
      • 2008-06-05 15727, 2008

      • futurist2
        *thing
      • 2008-06-05 15728, 2008

      • nikki
        srotta: yeah, it's a full time job trying not to let my tabs spiral out of control :P
      • 2008-06-05 15728, 2008

      • CatCat
        i love the save thing of tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15730, 2008

      • srotta
        But for some reason Opera freezes on me. I try it occasionally, like it, then it starts doing that again.
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • warp
        nikki: oh, i don't care about losing the tabs. i'm just annoyed because it takes a while for os x to finish killing it and to allow me to start it again.
      • 2008-06-05 15759, 2008

      • srotta
        "freezes" meaning it responds ok but it won't load anything.
      • 2008-06-05 15702, 2008

      • nikki
        there's something completely wrong with something there then...
      • 2008-06-05 15710, 2008

      • nikki has never seen that happen
      • 2008-06-05 15722, 2008

      • warp
        srotta: ah, my firefox does that sometimes :)
      • 2008-06-05 15724, 2008

      • srotta
        That was already in Opera 6 or something like that. I don't remember which version I bought.
      • 2008-06-05 15736, 2008

      • srotta
        Yeah, I've actually paid for a browser :P
      • 2008-06-05 15738, 2008

      • warp
        why do all browsers suck so much? :(
      • 2008-06-05 15754, 2008

      • warp
        srotta: i would too if it would make them work properly.
      • 2008-06-05 15757, 2008

      • CatCat
        but on the mac its a bit buggy in that if you close it yo uhave to kill it completely or else if it gets a niglet to open a new window/tab/whatever it deletes the memory of what was open
      • 2008-06-05 15758, 2008

      • nikki
        occasionally it pukes on a site and just sits beachballing, but I can kill it instantly and have it reopen in a couple of seconds
      • 2008-06-05 15759, 2008

      • creature
        I paid for Opera too!
      • 2008-06-05 15708, 2008

      • creature
        Then, like, 2 weeks later they made it completely free.
      • 2008-06-05 15710, 2008

      • nikki
        and it never loses the tabs
      • 2008-06-05 15716, 2008

      • srotta
        And it's happened on multiple machines, multiple operatings systems, so it's not just some weird configuration thing.
      • 2008-06-05 15725, 2008

      • creature
        But I *had* been using a cracked version for about a year before that, so I figure I got my money's worth anyway.
      • 2008-06-05 15726, 2008

      • nikki
        I was about to pay for it, but then I loaded the site and they'd made it free
      • 2008-06-05 15744, 2008

      • CatCat never heard f it befeor it was free