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ruaok
how is that different than the watched artist?
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BrianG
warp: 3g iphones are going to start at 199 US
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ruaok
BrianG: yeah. but if you have no 3G in your area, its hard to justify
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BrianG
ah
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3:47 AM
ruaok
and I wonder if they would tack on 2 years to my service contract.
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3:47 AM
ruaok
for a total of 3.5? shudder.
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BrianG
i probably won't get one until december
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3:48 AM
ruaok
once 3G hits my neighborhood, I'll probably do it.
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3:48 AM
BrianG
i don't know if i have 3g here
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3:49 AM
ruaok
crap. apparently I do have 3G.
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ruaok
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3:50 AM
ruaok
I mean yay!
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3:50 AM
ruaok
that just means that I can't walk past the apple store in a moment of weakness.
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3:51 AM
ruaok
and I wonder what leaving the GPS on does to your battery life.
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3:51 AM
ruaok will wait a few months regardless
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BrianG
hmm
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3:53 AM
BrianG
#G coverage at work, but not at home
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warp
BrianG: that's with subscription (aka subsidized).
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nikki
I guess subscription means contract to me?
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xlotlu
one more painful release down
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6:23 AM
xlotlu
now i'm thinking... maybe i should have taken care to dig out performance dates for the ARs, or somebody will curse me later on when they feel like entering them :)
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alastair_
why can I still not move X applications between machines?
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6:26 AM
alastair_
someone make it work!
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6:27 AM
xlotlu
because you can't
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6:28 AM
xlotlu
alastair_: i386 or amd64?
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6:28 AM
alastair_
x86
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xlotlu
then get xmove
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xlotlu
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xlotlu
(you were debian, right?)
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alastair_
ubuntu
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alastair_
woo, xmove is already installed
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6:30 AM
xlotlu
anyway, the X people suck :/
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6:30 AM
xlotlu
the all mighty useless client-server architecture, and you need to f*ckin' use vnc to access apps on other machines
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6:31 AM
alastair_
sigh. iphone wankery on the tv. again
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xlotlu
moreover, there was an extension allowing proxying of connections, and they happily removed it when they turned it modular
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alastair_
hmm, when's the next version of X out?
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6:32 AM
alastair_
*checks*
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xlotlu
xfree86 had it and worked very well for moving windows around machines (albeit it was meant as a caching proxy for slow/dial-up connections)
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6:32 AM
xlotlu
when it's ready?
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alastair_
"scheduled to be replaced in 2008"
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6:32 AM
alastair_
looks like it
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6:32 AM
alastair_
their website is terrible for info like release times
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xlotlu
if they come up with input redirection, great. if not.. who cares? :)
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alastair_
but
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alastair_
wobbly windows!
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xlotlu
i don't think x.org have a release schedule
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6:34 AM
xlotlu
they're more or less like debian
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alastair_
the last few releases have had a date on the website
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6:35 AM
alastair_
but they've usually missed it by 3 or 4 months
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xlotlu
heh. lol
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alastair_
maybe this is why they didn't this time :)
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xlotlu
that's not a release schedule. just wishful thinking
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alastair_
mm, the intel randr support rocks
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xlotlu
it's the only one that does
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alastair_
yeah
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xlotlu
but it does have some nasty bugs
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alastair_
ATI's new code is probably a few years away still :(
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xlotlu
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alastair_
interesting
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alastair_
my tablet stopped working as well :(
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alastair_
although I don't think it's software related
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xlotlu
i'm gonna sell my crap wonderful powerful desktop replacement toshiba
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xlotlu
and get something that's neither toshiba nor nvidia
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xlotlu
if the open sourcing of ati looks good, then ati... if not, intel
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warp
nikki_: yes. that's what I meant. i'm probably making a translation mistake from dutch.
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warp
xlotlu: well, you don't _need_ to use vnc. it's just that remove X performs even worse than vnc :)
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warp
s/remove/remote/
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alastair_
hmm, too much curry in the dinner :-/
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warp
that's impossible!
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alastair_
i'm not *too* keen on it...
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alastair_
just a little for flavour
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warp
:)
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alastair_
I don't think I mixed it in enough... there was heaps down one end, and none down the other :-P
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nikki_
I hate trying to cook with spices
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nikki_
they look so innocent! so I'm like *pouuuur* and then it's barely edible
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alastair_
haha
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alastair_
yeah, when they sell them in small packets, it's because they're all measured out for a single mean :)
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alastair_
*meal
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nikki_
hmm, I've never had them in packets, we just get small jars
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nikki_
about 10cm high
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nikki_
and narrow
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alastair_
one of the big companys here does small cardboard boxes
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lolz
@find deep house party
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nikki_
hmm... do you have vanilla sugar?
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alastair_
nope
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nikki_ wonders if warp does
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alastair_
curry, oregano, paprika
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alastair_
is all I normally need
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nikki_
we have loads here
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nikki_
of spices I mean, not vanilla sugar
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alastair_
hmm, it's funny
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alastair_
I have a reputation among my flatmates for "putting heaps of spices in stuff"
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alastair_
but when you look at the list, I don't actually do much :-P
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nikki_
haha
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nikki_
I don't cook much
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nikki_
but I would use a lot if I did, I bet
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alastair_
I cook because I don't trust my flatmates to :)
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Muzzz
I cook because I enjoy it and my flatmate can't
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Muzzz
Gives me a chance to get away from damn computer screens after work
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warp
nikki_: never heard of it.
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warp
i'm not much of a cook. i just follow the instructions.
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8:29 AM
CatCat has. chilli, paprika, cayennpepper, pepper, garlic, coriander, allspice, cumin, cinnamon, cardamom, basil, parsley, dill, chives, salt, sugar, nutmeg, turmeric, curry, ginger, dried mushroom grinded, sea-salt, soysauce, balsamic vinegar, mirin, mushroom soysauce, oyster-sauce, miso, Worcestershiresauce, hp-sauce and various buljongs and stocks
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8:29 AM
CatCat
and yes I have been known to use *all* of those in one dish
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CatCat
and no it was not to spicy
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CatCat
too*
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nikki_
well, it depends how much of each you use :P
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nikki_
nikki_ is now known as nikki
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8:30 AM
CatCat
susally i dont use enough
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CatCat
and it depends on how much you use of each
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8:30 AM
CatCat
one only must use a liiiitle of cayennepepper
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8:30 AM
CatCat
its hot
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nikki
that's what I just said...
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8:30 AM
CatCat
but you can use a lot of basil parsley and dill
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CatCat
oh!
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CatCat missread nikki's grammar
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CatCat
good moaning nikki-chan