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      • adamgolding
        yeah i think eventually we lose the ability to see the names as different ;-)
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      • adamgolding
        if i've tagged files once, how do i make picard jsut trust the MBIDs when tagging again?
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      • adamgolding
        (i.e. with different rename setttings)
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      • Wizzcat
        don't ever trust wikipedia to be right ultramage
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      • Wizzcat
        for music anyway
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      • Wizzcat
        unless maybe it's a star wars sound track or something
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      • ultramage
        :)
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      • ultramage
        it just helps to have the original kanji available for quick lookups
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      • ultramage
        whew... halfway through CD2
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      • ultramage
        any idea what a Synco / Cinco could be? (disc 2 track 8)
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      • adamgolding
        nope
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      • ultramage
        darn I need someone who understands japanese on this one
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      • adamgolding
        i think it's a mexican/spanish word
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      • ultramage
        nono on another one ;p
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      • ultramage
        本命穴チョコボ
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      • adamgolding
        oh lol
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      • Zharf
        ultramage, that some final fantasy song?
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      • ultramage
        yes
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      • ultramage
        vgmdb calls it "The Sure Bet Chocobo"
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      • ultramage
        but the first three kanji seem to form some sort of special phrase
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      • ultramage
        that my db doesn't understand
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      • ultramage
        especially the third symbol is totally foreign
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      • ultramage
        I'll go with the vgmdb name, it's close enough
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      • ultramage
        I think most of the problematic translations were created using the following approach:
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      • ultramage
        1. identify where in the game the track plays
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      • ultramage
        2. come up with a nifty name that matches the scene where it plays
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      • adamgolding
        heh
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      • adamgolding
        true
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      • Zharf
        ultramage, yeah
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      • adamgolding
        especialy when people were making MIDIs without the CD
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      • Zharf
        that one is from the chocobo race voting thing I think
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      • Zharf
        I always hated that place in the game
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      • ultramage
        :D
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      • ultramage
        yeah watching the races wasn't as fun as participating in them
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      • aCiD2
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      • aCiD2
        FFS why does subversion constantly cock up
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      • Muzzz_
        Ah, aCiD2 , you're about!
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      • aCiD2
        I'm the only person working on this project yet it STILL manges to conflict
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      • aCiD2
        god I hate svn >.>
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      • aCiD2
        hi Muzzz_
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      • Muzzz_
        I mentioned this to ruaok a few nights ago, but he suggested asking you and luks, but how would you feel about allowing others (ie me) svn access to committing stuff on the TT branch?
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      • aCiD2
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      • aCiD2
        Muzzz_: you're not the only one who's sparked interest in this :)
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      • aCiD2
        but what work would you be doing?
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      • aCiD2
        xlotlu wanted to work on templates, iirc
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      • srotta
        aCiD2: What are you doing?
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      • srotta
        8)
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      • aCiD2
        srotta: damned if I know, I jsut wanted to commit :P
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      • aCiD2
        It's commited, but now svn up is breaking (so presumably something broke)
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      • Muzzz_
        Anal pedantry on templates with a hope to make there as fe interface and design cahnges from teh current site as possible
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      • srotta
        Just curious, since obviously there's interest in what you're doing but I haven't got the faintest idea 8)
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      • aCiD2
        oh, you mean aside from breaking subversion
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      • srotta
        Yeah.
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      • aCiD2
        I'm branching the main mb_server and rewriting it to use Catalyst and Template Toolkit
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      • srotta
        Ah, ok.
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      • aCiD2
        Muzzz_: i don't quite get you
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      • aCiD2
        the typos didn't help :P
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      • Muzzz_
        CSS and .tt changes, don't want to toucht eh controllers so much
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      • aCiD2
        that I'm happy about
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      • srotta
        It was something about anal, so it's probably all good?
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      • aCiD2
        lol
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      • Muzzz_
        Although, tht's not to say I shan't if the opportunity should arise and I feel comfortable about doing it :P
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      • aCiD2
        if ruaok and luks are ok about it, I'm happy to at list give it a try
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      • Muzzz_
        Cool, I'll ask luks when he's about to see what he has to say on the matter :)
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      • aCiD2
        :)
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      • Muzzz_
        Things I'd be wary of though if several people are working on the same branch, coding style standards, assignment of tasks and best practices to follow heh
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      • aCiD2
        Indeed, I'll need to sort my fubared tabs out too
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      • aCiD2
        I'll proabbly have to focus what I'm working on a bit better too
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      • aCiD2
        atm I'm bouncing around between controllers and stuff
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      • warp
        hey, who is aurelien.mino?
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      • Muzzz_
        Heh
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      • aCiD2
        imma go play some more tf2, back in a bit
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      • warp
        ah, murdos.
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      • Muzzz_ goes back to sitting in bed and watching ER
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      • luks
        Muzzz_: I don't have a problem with that, but for the first few commits it would be maybe better to play the svn-diff/patch game
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      • luks
        just to have some kind of feedback from acid2 before committing it
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      • Muzzz_
        luks, agree with that totally :)
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      • luks
        Muzzz_: please PM me your username and htpasswd2-ed password for the svn account
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      • Muzzz_
        htpasswd -md yeah?
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      • Muzzz_
        Or -s?
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      • luks
        uh, I'm not actually sure right now
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      • Muzzz_
        Okay, well there's no rush, shout when you're sure
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      • luks
        Muzzz_: looks like we use only -d
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      • luks
        but it should work with md5 or ssh1 too, right? (/me is no apache expert)
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      • Muzzz_
        I think so, but don't quote me on that
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        aso, re japanese, several translations for "本命穴チョコボ" ->Chocobo favorite hole, Favorite hole [chiyokobo, romaji: honmei ana chokobo
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      • CatCat
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      • Wizzcat
        I just use google translate for everything
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      • CatCat
        yea
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      • CatCat
        i use nifty often
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        its a *japanese* one so it ets the japanese right, any errors it has in on the english side of it, as uposed ot having the errors on the japanese side, the way english based translators do
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      • Wizzcat
        neat
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      • Wizzcat
        I shall have to try it
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • ultramage
        Wizzcat: that's why I said that it's a non-trivial phrase that I don't have a dictionary entry for ;p
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      • ultramage
        JWPce works for me for most purposes and I have a small understanding of how japanese works
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      • ultramage
        but since the only thing it gives me for the third character is 'hole', it doesn't help much ;P
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      • ultramage
        sorry, just testing something: 本命穴チョコボ
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      • ultramage
        ...
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      • ultramage
        why is it that in this channel the kanji displays to me correctly, but in all others I get random junk?
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      • Muzzz_
        Are the other channels on other IRC networks?
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      • ultramage
        I tried one on freenode too
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      • ultramage
        I have no idea what this is supposed to be
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      • ultramage
        o__o
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      • CatCat
        its because we are awesome like that.
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      • warp
        :D
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      • CatCat
        \o/
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      • SymmATree
        Would anybody be terribly annoyed if I set up a bunch of "collaborated on" relationships for unambiguous "ArtistA & ArtistB" one-off groups? I kind of already started, but I thought I'd ask...
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      • FauxFaux
        Surely that's the whole point of the relationship?
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      • SymmATree
        e.g. http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/relationships.… didn't have the relationship recorded previously; it's making my pretty graphs less informative than they ought to be
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      • FauxFaux
        I had a page that picked them all out for you, but I kind of moved house today and haven't booted the machine that hosts the page yet.
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      • SymmATree
        I assume so, I just realized I was making quite a few edits, so I thought I'd ask
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      • SymmATree
        Yeah, I hacked together some SQL for at least a subset that I'm interested in (namely ones where I own at least one end of the relationship-that-isn't)
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      • luks
        as long as you are not going it automatically and know that they are indeed collaborations, I don't see a problem
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      • SymmATree
        yeah, I'm checking that the credited albums / songs make sense and both artists seem to be the right people; otherwise leaving it alone.
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      • SymmATree
        Thanks, then -- I just didn't want to be breaking some policy I hadn't run into, and give someone a hassle trying to cancel them.
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      • drsaunde
        yeah, just make sure they are actual collaborations, if the only thing present on the artist is a single track from a VA compilation, that track is probably misattributed
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      • CatCat nods
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      • SymmATree
        Sometimes VA albums are so weird about credits, though -- does ArtistIntent come into play when a label decides to credit you differently on a compilation?
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      • SymmATree
        And if so, is it better to merge down to one artist (say, change http://musicbrainz.org/track/7933a65c-2c66-4ec1-9… to "feat. Tina Turner" and credit directly to Bryan Adams)?
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      • SymmATree
        It seems like we'd do better to either do that, or just record the collaboration anyway, so at least we know that both Bryan and Tina were somehow involved in that recording, even if not exactly how they should be credited...