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      • smgoller
        anyone on who has experience using mutagen?
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      • smgoller
        i'm trying to shove album art into an mp3 and I can't seem to construct the APIC frame correctly
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      • luks
        how are you doing it?
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      • smgoller
        opening a file in rb mode
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      • smgoller
        then
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      • smgoller
        setting the data field of the APIC contructor to file.read()
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      • smgoller
        apicframe = APIC(encoding=3,mime="image/jpeg",type=3,desc='Front Cover',data=artfileobj.read())
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      • smgoller
        and the file is in fact a jpg
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      • luks
        looks fine so far
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      • smgoller
        hm
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      • luks
        what is the problem?
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      • smgoller
        i wonder if it's tag order
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      • smgoller
        when i load the mp3 in picard the art doesn't show u
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      • luks
        can you pastebin the whole script/file?
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      • smgoller
        hm
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      • luks
        or the relevant parts
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      • smgoller
        you want the tag manipulation part?
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      • smgoller
        hang on
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      • smgoller
        picard doesn't seem to like this other file that works properly in another tagger
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      • luks
        or wait, where it's not showing up in picard?
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      • luks
        it will never show up if the file is on the right side
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      • smgoller
        when you show details?
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      • luks
        anywhere, on the right side it will show only MB metadata
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      • smgoller
        ah
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      • luks
        if you drag it back to left, it should show it to you
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      • smgoller
        hm
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      • smgoller
        it won't let me drag it back
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      • smgoller
        whoa
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      • smgoller
        that one worked
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      • smgoller
        sweet!
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      • smgoller
        ok
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      • smgoller
        I'm writing a script that'll take a flac image file, transcode to mp3, then tag the hell out of it
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      • MBChatLogger
        drop table trm;
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      • smgoller
        does every tag from the wiki MusicBrainzTag except TRM UUID and PUID UUID
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      • smgoller
        however it's not smart about release country, it picks the earliest release date's
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      • luks
        picard does the same thing
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      • srotta
        How could it be smart about release country?
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      • luks
        it could read your mind
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      • luks
        there is a new python module for that
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      • srotta
        Ah, that.
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      • srotta
        Yeah, I heard about it, but it apparently had some feedback problem.
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      • srotta
        I think it called makeJelly() function without proper parameters or something like that.
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      • luks
        :)
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      • warp
        haha
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      • smgoller
        well
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      • smgoller
        you could tie discids to releases
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      • smgoller
        i mean
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      • smgoller
        release events
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      • smgoller
        i would think that would be sufficient
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      • srotta
        Yeah, that would be nice. Possibly.
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      • srotta
        Some people have added release/discId mappings into release annotations.
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      • warp wants release event level ARs
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      • warp
        or just NGS ofcourse.
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      • luks already has NGS :)
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      • warp
        meanie! keeping it to yourself :(
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      • smgoller
        hm
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      • smgoller
        itunes not support id3v2.4?
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      • luks
        right
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      • luks
        it kind of supports it, but really doesn't
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      • luks
        id3v2.4 for itunes is id3v2.3 with specified version 4
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      • smgoller
        so i guess the question of the hour is, what tag needs to exist for itunes to recognize album art?
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      • luks
        id3v2.3, not doable with stock mutagen
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      • smgoller
        ;_;
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      • luks
        check out picard's sources
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      • luks
        there is a class which allows id3v2.3 tag saving
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      • smgoller
        so i found compatid3.py
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      • luks
        yes, that one
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      • smgoller
        which has the update_to_v23()
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      • luks
        well, that's not the main function
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      • luks
        that's just to convert existing frames to 2.3
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      • luks
        file.update_to_v23(); file.save(v2=3) is what you want to save id3v2.3 tags
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      • smgoller
        so just those two functions should take care of it?
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      • luks
        yes
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      • srotta
        luks: You've managed to create a suitable DB schema for NGS?
      • 2008-07-23 20511, 2008

      • luks
        srotta: for my personal version of NGS, yes
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      • srotta
        Ok 8)
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      • luks
        people think of NGS as a solution to everything, so obviously I don't have a DB schema for that :)
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      • srotta
        Yeah. I wouldn't be too keen on creating that either :P
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      • smgoller
        if i give picard an mp3 tagged properly with UFID, will it fill in everything else?
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      • smgoller
        i.e. will it just believe it
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      • luks
        smgoller: I think it will not, but that's a bug
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      • luks
        it needs the release id currently
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      • smgoller
        what if it has both?
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      • luks
        then it will work fine
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      • smgoller
        ok
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      • luks
        srotta: http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ngs3.png is a bit older version of the main part
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      • smgoller
        so for writing tags in picard, i should select write 2.3 tags, and use what, utf-16?
      • 2008-07-23 20532, 2008

      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
        that works fine in itunes, wmp and most HW players
      • 2008-07-23 20511, 2008

      • smgoller
        ok
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      • nikki
        hmm, luks, you know the tracks on more than one album thing? will the current track ids still be unique (i.e. you'd know which release you have from the track id) or would they refer to the merged track?
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      • luks
        nikki: track ids will refer to merged tracks
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      • smgoller
        so it sounds like if i just retune my transcoder to put in just release and track uuids, then process everything with picard, i should be good
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      • luks
        so you need a release id to find on which release it's on
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      • nikki
        ahh ok
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      • luks
        smgoller: yes
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      • smgoller
        if a 2.4 apic tag exists, will picard rewrite it as 2.3 or kill it?
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      • luks
        depends on your settings
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      • luks
        if you disable any cover art downloaders, and set it to keep existing tags, it will rewrite it as 2.3
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      • smgoller
        aha, found it
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      • CatCat
        good moaning
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      • smgoller
        is there an album art plugin or something?
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      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
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      • CatCat was made of fail yesterday, so today I will head out emediatly.
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      • CatCat
        fun in the sun! bye!
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      • smgoller
        ah. I'm embedding album art in the flac images so that shouldn't be necessary
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      • luks
        well, MB might not always have cover art. it depends on Amazon for that
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      • smgoller
        oh, it pulls from MB?
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      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
        (from Amazon)