YEah, the only two closed platforms are Stratford and Bank iirc
2008-08-04 21725, 2008
Muz
You need to already have touched in, or come in via National Rail links to get to those DLR platforms
2008-08-04 21752, 2008
Muz
Anywhere else thoguh you can just walk on or off and get away with it, as it's rare to find a ticket inspector on the DLR and they're fully automated with no staff driving it or anything
2008-08-04 21757, 2008
outsidecontext
in munich the underground is open, no gates. you just are asked to stamp your ticket at the entrance.
2008-08-04 21700, 2008
warp
Muz: the gates in .nl are considerably higher.
2008-08-04 21718, 2008
Muz
warp, the people in .NL are considerably taller ;) One of the tallest nations on average :P
A minor gripe about these p[ayment systems are that they're limited to small metros/regions. I can understand not being able to pay for say national rail trains, but it's a pain in the arse to not be able to get a bus in any county and payusing the same card heh
2008-08-04 21742, 2008
CatCat
same with fylker here
2008-08-04 21744, 2008
warp
Muz: the intent of the dutch card was to use it for all of .nl
2008-08-04 21755, 2008
CatCat
the thing only works in oslo, go out of oslo and you need a differnt system
2008-08-04 21724, 2008
warp
Muz: but with mifare security being such an issue, the implementation is greatly delayed.
2008-08-04 21729, 2008
Muz
Oyster Cards only works in London and links to/from London, understandable as it's ran by TfL (Transport for London)
2008-08-04 21734, 2008
CatCat
i can show you when you come visit here, warp
2008-08-04 21746, 2008
warp
CatCat: yes :)
2008-08-04 21754, 2008
CatCat
when was that again?
2008-08-04 21759, 2008
CatCat meomry liek a sieve
2008-08-04 21714, 2008
warp
whenever i have time + money.
2008-08-04 21719, 2008
CatCat
aaaahhhhh
2008-08-04 21732, 2008
CatCat *is* lookibg forwaqrd too it
2008-08-04 21742, 2008
srotta
I don't really see as such a problem. If I have to travel somewhere else, I have this thing called "credit card". Works everywhere.
2008-08-04 21750, 2008
warp
the money issue should be much clearer by the end of august, i'm waiting for monthly tax returns to be arranged because of my new house, etc..
2008-08-04 21759, 2008
CatCat
also because i gave up on twilight princess and am now playing master quest
2008-08-04 21712, 2008
CatCat
ahh yay
2008-08-04 21727, 2008
CatCat
lol maybe come here in fall/winter
2008-08-04 21727, 2008
warp
srotta: i wasn't able to top up the oyster card with my creditcard.
2008-08-04 21741, 2008
CatCat
usually it'd be cold but with tihs freaky enviroment..
2008-08-04 21742, 2008
warp
srotta: and good look trying that in .nl, creditcards are not all that common here.
2008-08-04 21745, 2008
CatCat
it will priobably be hot
2008-08-04 21752, 2008
srotta
warp: Yeah, that's a problem.
2008-08-04 21705, 2008
Muz
srotta, I can't use a credit card on a bus ;)
2008-08-04 21707, 2008
CatCat
i uh.. i still have an oyster card from when i was in london
2008-08-04 21710, 2008
CatCat
it came with me
2008-08-04 21711, 2008
warp
CatCat: hm, master quest.. is that the remixed ocarina of time?
2008-08-04 21713, 2008
srotta
warp: Same thing in Germany, most stores had "no credit cards allowed".
2008-08-04 21722, 2008
CatCat
warp: tyepp!
2008-08-04 21751, 2008
CatCat
Muz: the busses too and fro the airport lets you use credit cards
2008-08-04 21756, 2008
srotta
Muz: Yeah, but that's the problem of buses, I don't really see the point in creating another card that's just used for paying travle fares.
2008-08-04 21701, 2008
CatCat
@andmost stores have credit cards herew
2008-08-04 21720, 2008
CatCat
we have paper tickets
2008-08-04 21754, 2008
CatCat
warp: yes it is
2008-08-04 21704, 2008
CatCat
its awesome ! \o/
2008-08-04 21715, 2008
warp
srotta: i like the seperate systems. I use the public transport card a lot more, so it not always lives in my wallet. it's quite ok for that to get lost or stolen...
2008-08-04 21741, 2008
warp
(well, when i was still using it. i switched back to the old ticket system for the dutch metro now :)
2008-08-04 21701, 2008
CatCat
i hope the oystercard i have still works when i revisit
2008-08-04 21706, 2008
LotR
strippenkaart?
2008-08-04 21715, 2008
CatCat
strippekort?!
2008-08-04 21716, 2008
LotR
or does the metro have another system too?
2008-08-04 21717, 2008
CatCat
wtf XD
2008-08-04 21734, 2008
warp
LotR: yes.
2008-08-04 21747, 2008
CatCat
striptease card.. wtf :D
2008-08-04 21752, 2008
warp
LotR: and 'zwartrijden' is also a feasable option in the rotterdam metro ;)
2008-08-04 21757, 2008
CatCat knows thats not it
2008-08-04 21715, 2008
CatCat
zwartrijden?
2008-08-04 21740, 2008
LotR
warp: I know, I accidentely did that last year, when I stamped the wrong bit
2008-08-04 21750, 2008
CatCat
WHAT?! :D
2008-08-04 21756, 2008
CatCat
explain, plz
2008-08-04 21705, 2008
warp
CatCat: it's a "card with strips", each strip is 1 zone -- you stamp the amount of zones you want to travel (+1 strip base fare).
2008-08-04 21713, 2008
CatCat
jaha
2008-08-04 21722, 2008
CatCat
and zwartrijden?
2008-08-04 21725, 2008
warp
CatCat: zwartrijden is 'riding black', or not paying for a ticket at all.
2008-08-04 21736, 2008
CatCat
aha!
2008-08-04 21749, 2008
Muz
Wasn't Black Riding outlawed in the 1800s?
2008-08-04 21753, 2008
Muz
[/distasteful]
2008-08-04 21711, 2008
CatCat
speaking of rides, i have to go now, icats need food
2008-08-04 21704, 2008
CatCat
what, mnuz?
2008-08-04 21713, 2008
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DarkAudit has quit
2008-08-04 21754, 2008
LotR
muz: so what's the term for using public transport without a ticket in english then?
2008-08-04 21725, 2008
Muz
I'm not sure if there really is one. I'm sure there are a plethora of slang terms, but I've never used any :/
2008-08-04 21720, 2008
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2008-08-04 21740, 2008
aCiD2 returns!
2008-08-04 21730, 2008
Muz
zomg
2008-08-04 21731, 2008
DarkAudi1
DarkAudi1 is now known as DarkAudit
2008-08-04 21708, 2008
niklas
aCiD2: I added you as a friend on last.fm :)
2008-08-04 21750, 2008
aCiD2
oo, cool :)
2008-08-04 21759, 2008
aCiD2 has naaasty sunburn
2008-08-04 21705, 2008
aCiD2
but, I saw plaid and trentmoller live! <3
2008-08-04 21746, 2008
Muz
aCiD2, Big chill?
2008-08-04 21723, 2008
warp
garr
2008-08-04 21756, 2008
aCiD2
ja
2008-08-04 21757, 2008
warp disklikes coworkers who come to him to debug their shit
luks: So. it should be "version-info 2:1:0" instead of "version-info 2:1:2"?
2008-08-04 21704, 2008
Freso
Or "version-info 2:1:1"?
2008-08-04 21742, 2008
luks
the patch says -2:1:1 +2:1:2
2008-08-04 21751, 2008
luks
- is wrong, + is right
2008-08-04 21705, 2008
Freso
So... it's already fixed?
2008-08-04 21723, 2008
luks
yes
2008-08-04 21735, 2008
Freso
Ah. Oh well.
2008-08-04 21740, 2008
Freso
It doesn't match the changelog entry though, but I'll let it rest.
2008-08-04 21740, 2008
luks
it doesn't?
2008-08-04 21749, 2008
luks
oh
2008-08-04 21731, 2008
Freso
luks: Nope. And I would deduce that the change would now make it create libdiscid.so.2 instead of .0 or even .1... but I'm not a C hacker, so what do I know? :)
