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      • CatCat loks smug
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      • Freso has quit
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      • CatCat runs away from Muzzz
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      • warp gets a broom to clean up bits of muzzz
      • 2008-10-07 28157, 2008

      • CatCat was just about to exclaim "I'm not cleaning that up!"
      • 2008-10-07 28129, 2008

      • CatCat
        i mårra blir det regn
      • 2008-10-07 28137, 2008

      • CatCat
        uh, wrong channel
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      • Kerensky98 joined the channel
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      • hawke_
        CatCat: Yes, trivia is a common thing of interest...but that doesn't mean it's not trivial
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      • CatCat
        whats trivial and whats not is in the eye of the beholder
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      • CatCat
        to me, what random album comes up in a week's time matters not at all
      • 2008-10-07 28124, 2008

      • Vlet
        Can anyone suggest to me why before I import data into postgres, my vmserver was working, and after, I get a 'No such database' error?
      • 2008-10-07 28109, 2008

      • Wizzcat thinks upcoming albums is a great feature
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      • hawke_ agrees.
      • 2008-10-07 28104, 2008

      • Wizzcat
        might be nice with a more longterm view though, like two weeks
      • 2008-10-07 28125, 2008

      • hawke_
        I'd even go up to a month, personally.
      • 2008-10-07 28130, 2008

      • warp
        why put a limit on upcoming?
      • 2008-10-07 28159, 2008

      • ruaok
        I'll add paging support so you can see whatever you want...
      • 2008-10-07 28144, 2008

      • CatCat is weird and would like to see the longest away upcoming one
      • 2008-10-07 28132, 2008

      • CatCat
        but if there are paging, that page could be called "upcoming"
      • 2008-10-07 28140, 2008

      • CatCat
        and the catch-all one trivia
      • 2008-10-07 28156, 2008

      • hawke_
        what exactly would "trivia" have on it?
      • 2008-10-07 28137, 2008

      • Wizzcat
        just call it news and split it into obits, upcoming, recent?
      • 2008-10-07 28115, 2008

      • hawke_
        "timeline"?
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      • ruaok
        hawke_: the zeitgeist page I'm working on would be closer to a timeline.
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      • futilius has quit
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      • CatCat
        news! thats a good one wizz
      • 2008-10-07 28111, 2008

      • Muzzz
        It's not really news though
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      • Muzzz wouldn't call it "news" personally
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      • CatCat
        ARG
      • 2008-10-07 28157, 2008

      • CatCat
        hey ruaok, you're german, right?
      • 2008-10-07 28102, 2008

      • CatCat
        is this right? i mårra blir det regn
      • 2008-10-07 28104, 2008

      • ruaok
        ja.
      • 2008-10-07 28106, 2008

      • CatCat
        nei feil paste
      • 2008-10-07 28109, 2008

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2008-10-07 28113, 2008

      • Wizzcat
        what's not new about it, new people dead, new releases out!
      • 2008-10-07 28116, 2008

      • CatCat
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      • CatCat agrees with Wizzcat
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      • CatCat
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      • ruaok
        seems ok to me
      • 2008-10-07 28118, 2008

      • CatCat
        what about ss vs ß?
      • 2008-10-07 28150, 2008

      • Wizzcat
        *cough*toldyouso*cough
      • 2008-10-07 28157, 2008

      • ruaok
        that's ticky.
      • 2008-10-07 28106, 2008

      • ruaok
        we should go by what's on the cover.
      • 2008-10-07 28118, 2008

      • ruaok
        because this is subject to debate in the german language reform.
      • 2008-10-07 28158, 2008

      • CatCat
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      • ruaok
        double s then.
      • 2008-10-07 28155, 2008

      • CatCat
        heh
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      • CatCat
        tele changed it to ß
      • 2008-10-07 28132, 2008

      • CatCat 'll link the chatlog
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      • CatCat
        there
      • 2008-10-07 28128, 2008

      • CatCat
        hey Cord : http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9412538 seems Andi Slavik & Susanne Kemmler arethe main artists. they performed on all the tracks and half where gregorian in the origin?
      • 2008-10-07 28120, 2008

      • CatCat
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      • symphonick sighs
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      • CatCat
        hmm?
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      • CatCat
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      • v6lur has quit
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      • hawke_
        I thought feat. was not generally used in the artist?
      • 2008-10-07 28158, 2008

      • CatCat
        exactly
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      • hawke_
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      • Wizzcat
        japanese are crazy
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      • Wizzcat
        anyway, sleeve says feat. so I don't see why not
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      • symphonick has quit
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      • hawke_
        Wizzcat: nothing to do with japanese -- It's more an album release style thing
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      • CatCat
        >_<
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      • CatCat
        just because the sleeve
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      • hawke_
        In my book, sleeve trumps all else
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      • CatCat
        that simply isnt true
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      • CatCat
        not for classical. not for general, not for jazz
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      • warp
        well, we do have guidelines.
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      • hawke_
        I know, I know.
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      • Wizzcat
        then again, it is a single
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      • hawke_
        but where it's at all ambiguous, I tend to side with the sleeve.
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      • Wizzcat
        so moving it all down is probably appropriate
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      • CatCat
        "moving it down"?
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      • hawke_
        Wizzcat: isn't it an EP?
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      • CatCat
        ep is a non exsistance in thecdage
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      • warp
        CatCat: i would probably move the 'feat. CHARA' to the release title in this case.
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      • CatCat
        ep counts only for vinyl
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      • CatCat
        maxisingle is to cd what ep is to vinyl
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      • Wizzcat
        CatCat: adding feat to the relevant tracks
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      • warp
        bullshit
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      • CatCat
        *usually*
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      • Wizzcat
        nah, plenty of cd eps, but that is not one
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      • warp
        maxisingle implies a bunch of mixes of the same song, with possibly one or a few other tracks.
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      • warp
        EP is a short album, with no repeats of any of the tracks.
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      • CatCat
        its more an exeption/harder to define .than before the vinyl age
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      • CatCat
        ah
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      • CatCat was told that
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      • CatCat
        so i thoguht
      • 2008-10-07 28133, 2008

      • hawke_
        I think "EP" is pretty much "what the artists want to call it" in CDs.
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      • Muzzz
        < CatCat> ep is a non exsistance in thecdage
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      • Muzzz
        That's not true
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      • hawke_
        There's certainly no clear-cut definition.
      • 2008-10-07 28100, 2008

      • Muzzz
        CDs and Vinyls are the medium. Album, single and EP refer to the content
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      • CatCat
        i alreaqdy clerarifyed that
      • 2008-10-07 28113, 2008

      • CatCat
        shut up already its late
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      • warp
        the future sound of londen have some nice corner cases, where it's hard to determine wether we're talking about a single or an EP. but generally, it's quite clear.
      • 2008-10-07 28128, 2008

      • CatCat
        yes
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      • hawke_
        s/vinyls/record discs/
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      • CatCat
        i'm only repeating what others have said wrt ep's and vinyls & cd's
      • 2008-10-07 28109, 2008

      • Muzzz
        Yes, and it's not true :P
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      • CatCat
        so tell them, noy me
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      • warp
        :)
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      • CatCat
        whatever
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      • CatCat will go "bullshit" off
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      • hawke_
        from the style guide, "usually it should only be assumed that a release is an EP if the artist defines it as such."
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      • CatCat has left the channel
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      • Muzzz
        Artist or label heh
      • 2008-10-07 28153, 2008

      • hawke_
        well, yes.
      • 2008-10-07 28154, 2008

      • Muzzz fires up Starcraft
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      • Kerensky98
        If I was an artist I'd make nightmare releases just to fuck with friends at MB.
      • 2008-10-07 28135, 2008

      • Kerensky98
        "My EP has 22 tracks. And it IS artist intent." Most people would be wondering what the hell I meant but everybody here would know.
      • 2008-10-07 28116, 2008

      • Wizzcat
        http://www.discogs.com/release/194584 holy crap, that must be one good album!
      • 2008-10-07 28119, 2008

      • Kerensky98
        I'd call myself "[unknown] feat. [traditional] 'n' friends", a classical orchestral cover group.
      • 2008-10-07 28151, 2008

      • hawke_
        nice. :-D
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      • warp
        :D
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      • warp
        EP of 22 tracks doesn't seem that odd though.
      • 2008-10-07 28142, 2008

      • hawke_
        meh, releasetype is close to useless anyway
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      • hawke_
        since many many releases can be several of them, and any one of them doesn't nail it down closely enough anyway.
      • 2008-10-07 28138, 2008

      • warp
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/7c2a2c28-c34d-4da1… <-- not 22 tracks, but pretty long for an EP :)
      • 2008-10-07 28141, 2008

      • Kerensky98
        That's good, but how about a 14 track single? http://musicbrainz.org/release/e0926032-16bb-4b91…
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      • Kerensky98
        But it's kind of cheating since 4 tracks a karaoke tracks.
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      • warp
        they're not all the same song, are they?
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      • hawke_
        singles with different songs are common.
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      • Kerensky98
        No it's basically a maxi single of 4 songs with many remixes
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      • warp
        (not that that's a requirement for singles, but I'm sure there are singles out there with lots of remixes of the same song)
      • 2008-10-07 28102, 2008

      • hawke_
        The most common CD-single format as far as I know is one song, a bunch of remixes of that song, and then a different song.
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      • warp
        hawke_: ah, haven't seen that much.
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      • hawke_
        I don't own that many CD-singles, so that's my limited sample. :-D
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      • hawke_
        If only collections were in MB proper, I could perhaps see how many that actually is.
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      • Kerensky98
        I like when they put those alternate version in there. If they're going to charge alot for a single they should put some rare versions of the song in there too.
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      • warp
        I just want the music video on DVD.
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      • Kerensky98
        That's a nice bonus too.
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      • warp
        I like japanese singles because of that :).
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      • warp
        although recently the big names are all releasing CD+DVD albums with all the videos on them too.
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      • warp
        (which is even better).
      • 2008-10-07 28151, 2008

      • Kerensky98
        I think that's a good solution to the "we're losing market share to iTunes and online downloads" Throw some cool videos on a cheap disc of plastic and suddenly buying the physical albums are alot more interesting to me.
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      • warp nods.
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      • warp
        and i should be sleeping.
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      • hawke_
        hehe...I actually have several DVD music video releases which I've never watched
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      • warp
        goodnight! :)
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      • hawke_
        if I wanted to take the time to sit through a several-hour concert, I'd spend that time watching a movie.
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      • Kerensky98
        goodnight
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