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      • Muzzz
        331477 | 555882 | 482189 | Sam's Town | http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000HDR9NG
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      • Muzzz
        (2 rows)
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      • Muzzz
        the data's all there in the DB fine
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      • Muzzz
        Which client library are you using, adhawkins?
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      • Muzzz
        And does it work for other releases which have ASINs assigned?
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      • adhawkins
        Yes, works for most of them.
      • 2008-11-08 31331, 2008

      • adhawkins
        It's the latest library I think, but might not necessarily be the absolute latest version
      • 2008-11-08 31302, 2008

      • adhawkins
        Version 3, from CVS, but not been updated for a while
      • 2008-11-08 31318, 2008

      • adhawkins
        Generally works. In the past when we've had this issue, removing the ASIN and re-adding it sorts it.
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      • Muzzz
        http://musicbrainz.org/ws/1/release/07039d4c-f94e… Well, the XML itself is returning the ASIN
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      • Muzzz
        So I'm going to say you've got yourself a bug with the client library you're using
      • 2008-11-08 31330, 2008

      • adhawkins
        One sec, let me enable debug.
      • 2008-11-08 31350, 2008

      • Muzzz
        That, or a bug in whatevers parsing the lib's output
      • 2008-11-08 31340, 2008

      • adhawkins
        Well, the library just has a 'Release->getAsin()' call.
      • 2008-11-08 31300, 2008

      • adhawkins
        No parsing involved, just checking if what is returned is empty
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      • lauri
        *sigh* sometimes the style rules end up with truly silly song titles
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      • lauri
        Furious Angels (bonus disc: Instrumentals) - Instrumental (instrumental)
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      • adhawkins
        Hmm...library doesn't seem to have a way of enabling debugging any more
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      • pbryan
        lauri: Okay, so we have a truce on the civil war. ;) I'll try to get my hands on a French telephone directory, or at least some collateral that supports how such French names should be sorted one way or the other.
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      • Muzzz
        lauri: http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/1/0/7/2107… I hate to imagine how that'd best be titled to keep it in line with the SG
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      • Muzzz
        So much so, I've not botehred entering it yet
      • 2008-11-08 31345, 2008

      • Muzzz
        Multiple sub titles, a live release too, with multiple discs
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      • lauri
        ahaha
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      • lauri
        good grief
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      • pbryan
        Muzzz: That's an awesome title.
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      • lauri
        let me find you one i did enter, after we debated it in here for like 2 hours how to
      • 2008-11-08 31310, 2008

      • lauri
        it's nearly as awesome
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      • lauri
        but not nearly as cute
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      • nikki wishes thunderbird could count...
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      • Muzzz downloads a copy of libmusicbrainz
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      • nikki
        it says there's one new message, but when I check, there are three
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      • Muzzz
        nikki: here's a hint, Thunderbird sucks
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      • lauri wonders who's singing lead vocal on that rob dougan furious angels track
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      • nikki
        yeah well, all email clients for macs do
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      • Muzzz
        Woah, you're not a raving Mail.app fan?
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      • lauri
        muzz: subtitle madness, in case it helps: http://musicbrainz.org/release/fc9e6b6e-bd22-4f44…
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      • nikki
        no, it's rubbish
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      • nikki is a raving threaded email fan :P
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      • Muzzz
        lauri: D:
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      • nikki
        grouping them together doesn't count as threading, as much as mail.app would like to think it does
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      • lauri
        when all else fails, go lisp on it's ass
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      • Muzzz
        Does Mail.app really not do threading?!
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      • nikki
        if it does, I haven't worked out how to turn it on
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      • nikki
        it just groups them together so you end up with a list sorted by date
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      • Muzzz
        (On the topic of shit software, cpan under cygwin sucks)
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      • lauri
        oh dear god, we have 3 versions of disc 1, and 2 versions of disc 2, and none match the version i have, and one apparently has a mistake on the cover tracklisting
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      • lauri
        which probably means they all do
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      • lauri decides not to rip this cd today after all
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      • nikki
        I ended up switching from mail.app though because it wouldn't check non-inbox folders for new mail
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      • nikki
        so I had to click on like 20 different bloody folders just to check if there was anything there
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      • lauri
        omg, that's nuts
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      • Muzzz
        adhawkins: where'd you download your client libraries from? Because;
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      • Muzzz
        $ find . | xargs grep -i getasin
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      • lauri
        totally defeats the purpose of mail filters
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      • nikki
        I thought maybe it was gmail's imap stuff, but thunderbird is quite happy to check non-inbox folders for new mail
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      • nikki
        so I guess checking folders + threading > inability to count
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      • adhawkins
        Err, I'm using CVS I think. One sec
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      • Muzzz
        Ignore that question, I forgot to cd .. before doing that grep hah
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      • adhawkins
        Revision: 10215
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      • adhawkins
        Node Kind: directory
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      • adhawkins
        Schedule: normal
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      • adhawkins
        Last Changed Author: luks
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      • adhawkins
        Last Changed Rev: 9247
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      • lauri
        it's imap, you could run both
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      • adhawkins
        Last Changed Date: 2007-07-08 10:42:47 +0100 (Sun, 08 Jul 2007)
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      • lauri
        when one tells you there's mail in inbox, you can read it in the one that threads and checks the folders :)
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      • nikki
        lauri: it tells me there's mail, it just can't count how many there are :)
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      • nikki
        so I'll have 7 and it'll claim there's 4 or something
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      • lauri
        oooh
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      • adhawkins
        Getting anywhere muzzz?
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      • Muzzz
        adhawkins: nae :(
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      • adhawkins
        Ok.
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      • Muzzz
        Hmmm, got a release where it does work?
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      • adhawkins
        One sec.
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      • adhawkins
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      • adhawkins
        Just so you know, I'm querying by discid rather than directly to the release
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      • tbm
        I have a classical music CD on which Anna Gourari plays music from varioust artists on the piano
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      • tbm
        the wiki says I should enter this as a Various Artist CD. But is there still some way to associate this VA releasewith Anna Gourari?
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      • tbm
        oh, "Mixed recitals by a performer" says I shouldn't add it as VA
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      • lauri
        Set the release artist to Anna Gourari
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      • lauri
        let me find you one so you can see
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      • Muzzz
        adhawkins: aha!
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      • Muzzz
        So, looking up stuff on the XML services using the MBID returns different data to that of a search done by DiscID
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      • lauri
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      • tbm
        lauri: thanks
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      • Muzzz
        With the ones you aren't getting ASINs, the XML quite simply isn't returning the ASIN XML ode for some reason
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      • adhawkins
        Yes, that's the conclusion I'd come to.
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      • Muzzz
        Why it isn't doing this is beyond me, but the data is all there in the DB fine
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      • Muzzz
        (also you sooo should have said you were using DiscIDs earlier)
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      • adhawkins
        Yep. In the past, as I said beofre, Lukz has disappeared off to do something to the database to fix it.
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      • adhawkins
        ALternatively, removing the ASIN and re-adding it usually sorts it
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      • adhawkins
        Apologies for not mentioning disc IDs earler :)
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      • adhawkins
        Do you think if I re-queried based on the release ID I'd get the ASIN?
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      • Muzzz
        Well, the XML format is different, but it does appear to return the ASIN when you query based on MBID
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      • adhawkins
        Yes, it does for most releases
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      • adhawkins
        However, you queried one earlier based on the release ID and it worked, when I'm not getting it when I query it based on disc id
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      • Muzzz
        That was me manually lookinga the XML and not the library heh
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      • adhawkins
        Yes.
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      • adhawkins
        But I suspect the library isn't returning it because it's not coming back in the XML
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      • adhawkins
        Ah, just checked my code. When I do the query, I first do a 'getReleases' passing the disc ID
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      • adhawkins
        This returns a list of release IDs, and for each one I do a 'getReleaseById'
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      • adhawkins
        So I'm not getting the release from the discid if you see what I mean
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      • adhawkins
        luks, you there?
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      • lauri
        any spanish speakers about?
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