warp: i mostly listen to jazz and classical so track count isn't a good indicator. i often "join tracks" to complete a full work of music (or suite).
2009-01-06 00618, 2009
pbryan
Ah, okay.
2009-01-06 00629, 2009
pbryan
Total time in minutes?
2009-01-06 00646, 2009
yllona
warp: i buy about 10-12 CDs a month, if that's more helpful
2009-01-06 00648, 2009
pbryan
Like about 90 days' worth?
2009-01-06 00623, 2009
yllona
one sec, and i can tell you
2009-01-06 00648, 2009
pbryan
I'm guessing around the 90-days-continuous-music range.
2009-01-06 00647, 2009
pbryan
(presuming FLAC)
2009-01-06 00600, 2009
yllona
more more than that, closer to 112 days. i have one drive offline atm
2009-01-06 00602, 2009
warp
yllona: a terabyte is only three times what i'm rsyncing. i'm rsyncing at about 80kbyte/s,.. you're on fiber. should work unless you move stuff around a lot.
2009-01-06 00625, 2009
pbryan
Wow.
2009-01-06 00656, 2009
yllona
warp: i have physical copies -- why would do i need sync'd storage?
2009-01-06 00618, 2009
warp
yllona: are the physical copies in the same building?
2009-01-06 00649, 2009
pbryan
And if so, do you have lots of insurance?
2009-01-06 00652, 2009
James1324
hello
2009-01-06 00656, 2009
James1324
I'm new to this channel
2009-01-06 00600, 2009
yllona
in my entire collection i have (wait for it) less than 30 "digital music" purchases
2009-01-06 00621, 2009
James1324
but I'm wondering if I can create an .m3u file based on a folder with multiple subdirectories
2009-01-06 00632, 2009
yllona
warp: no separate building, same property. and yes i have insurance
2009-01-06 00642, 2009
James1324
I want to be able to select just this folder and create an m3u based on the entire thing
2009-01-06 00650, 2009
warp
my music is safe even if the house burns down.
2009-01-06 00621, 2009
yllona
warp: if my house burns down, i have other things to worry about ;)
2009-01-06 00621, 2009
warp
yllona: unsurance just gets you money. it doesn't get you all the work and effort of ripping music back, it doesn't get you all the work and effort of finding/collecting rare stuff. etc..
2009-01-06 00604, 2009
yllona
warp: yes, i know. but agin, as much as i love music. that would be the least of my worrries in a catastrophic event
2009-01-06 00612, 2009
warp
that's about the only thing I worry about when my house burns down... is my data safe? :)
2009-01-06 00647, 2009
yllona
yes. that's why you should have a fire-proof safe and a safe deposit box
2009-01-06 00615, 2009
yllona
number 1 concern: your life :P
2009-01-06 00628, 2009
warp
or make sure the data is backupped in another city 40km north of here :)
2009-01-06 00604, 2009
yllona
like are you still alive and not seriously injured? if yes, all the rest is gravy
2009-01-06 00610, 2009
warp
sure.
2009-01-06 00632, 2009
warp gets ready for work.
2009-01-06 00639, 2009
yllona
#2 do you access to ally your important papers? 'cuz digital copies won't matter in an earthquake, flood or fire
2009-01-06 00608, 2009
yllona
if there's no electricity what good is digital? and also many state & fed'l agencies could care less about your digital back-up strategy. what are you gonna asy? i can restore my back-up as soon as you turn the power back on?"
2009-01-06 00650, 2009
warp
i don't have important papers.
2009-01-06 00634, 2009
yllona
birth certificate? driver's licence, certificate of citezenship?
2009-01-06 00623, 2009
pbryan
yllona: Interesting that you combine tracks. Any cues or anything to skip to different movements?
2009-01-06 00636, 2009
yllona
i shrugged it off too, until i worked 9/11 & hurricane katrina, and witnessed the clusterfuck first-hand
2009-01-06 00642, 2009
pbryan
Hi James1324.
2009-01-06 00630, 2009
yllona
pbryan i just navigate via itunes / ipod interface
2009-01-06 00652, 2009
pbryan
yllona: Just scroll ahead to a time index?
2009-01-06 00655, 2009
yllona
combining tracks doesn't eliminate meta-data in itunes
2009-01-06 00636, 2009
zen0__ has quit
2009-01-06 00632, 2009
pbryan
James1324: Under Linux, you could simply type "ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u"
2009-01-06 00646, 2009
warp
yllona: passport would be the most important of those, and that is easily replaced.
2009-01-06 00603, 2009
yllona
pbryan: it just combines the audio files, and concatenates metadata. so i set up track names / movement by the composer/name of the work,the title of each movement.
2009-01-06 00606, 2009
warp
(and I carry that with me pretty much all the time)
2009-01-06 00620, 2009
pbryan
yllona: Interesting feature.
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
warp
yllona: I don't think i have a birth certificate :)
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
pbryan
What file format?
2009-01-06 00607, 2009
yllona
warp: a passport is very useful agreed. but not everything you may need in the US (it only counts as one piece of ID here) often you may need two ID's (or more)
2009-01-06 00639, 2009
warp
yllona: .nl is different :)
2009-01-06 00653, 2009
MBChatLogger
We did it!
2009-01-06 00653, 2009
yllona
warp: witness the crazy people claiming that barack obama wasn't a US citizen born in the US, thus ineligible to by US president, thay had to produce a his original "official" birth certificate
2009-01-06 00640, 2009
pbryan
MBChatLogger: Great!
2009-01-06 00640, 2009
MBChatLogger
I'm logging. I don't understand 'Great!', pbryan. Try /msg MBChatLogger help
2009-01-06 00600, 2009
pbryan
Okay, well, as long as you don't talk about TRDs.
2009-01-06 00605, 2009
warp
yllona: I don't think such a thing exists here. I can probably get one of those from either my local muncipality or the muncipality where I was born, but i've never needed one.
2009-01-06 00610, 2009
pbryan
TRD
2009-01-06 00650, 2009
yllona
pbryan: i use 256 kbps AAC these days. i have mostly ripped 128 kbps AAC, s ome legacy MP# left around. tho i am re-ripping with more recent encoders.. i have legacy MP3 from the early mid-90s still
2009-01-06 00613, 2009
pbryan
LAME 3.98 is now transparent to my ears.
2009-01-06 00642, 2009
MBChatLogger
trms are finally gone!
2009-01-06 00642, 2009
pbryan
TRM
2009-01-06 00645, 2009
yllona
pbryan: i can still artifacts in any MP3. MP4 is soo much better
2009-01-06 00657, 2009
pbryan
Even with LAME 3.98?
2009-01-06 00612, 2009
pbryan
I too could hear artifacts with every MP3 under 3.97
2009-01-06 00623, 2009
pbryan
The advances they made in 3.98 are remarkable.
2009-01-06 00632, 2009
warp is afk
2009-01-06 00633, 2009
warp
bye!
2009-01-06 00637, 2009
pbryan
CYA.
2009-01-06 00637, 2009
yllona
pbryan: it also depends on what type of music you listen to, how it was aoriginally recorded and mastered, etc.
2009-01-06 00644, 2009
pbryan
yllona: Agreed.
2009-01-06 00605, 2009
pbryan
Classical and acoustic jazz were quite susceptible.
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
yllona
pbryan: LAME may have legal issues here also. and also i ahve work stuff that is audio also -- LAME isn't acceptable
2009-01-06 00628, 2009
pbryan
Ah.
2009-01-06 00644, 2009
pbryan
yllona: BTW, I think it was you that encouraged me to look at Mosaic Records?
2009-01-06 00603, 2009
pbryan
(Perhaps a year or so ago.)
2009-01-06 00632, 2009
yllona
pbryan: yes, i remember :)
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
pbryan
Thanks for the recommendation.
2009-01-06 00658, 2009
pbryan
I've really enjoyed my Mosaic purchases.
2009-01-06 00601, 2009
yllona
you're welcome. watch your checkbook... it's no joke
2009-01-06 00607, 2009
pbryan
No kidding.
2009-01-06 00612, 2009
yllona
:-D
2009-01-06 00617, 2009
pbryan
If I were buying 10-12 per month, I'd be filing for Chapter 11.
2009-01-06 00611, 2009
yllona
pbryan: those are single CDs, mostly i use amazon for that. mosaic is a "special" purchase... i save up for those
2009-01-06 00622, 2009
pbryan
:)
2009-01-06 00612, 2009
yllona
mosaic can often be limited releases, so i have missed out on some amazing stuff due to budget sadly. and ebay pricing for mosaic can be insane to the point of usury
2009-01-06 00634, 2009
yllona
so think of your mosaic purchases as an investment. rip'em and put them away somewhere safe. i have seen 600% mark-up on some mosaic sets on e-bay
2009-01-06 00653, 2009
yllona
i 'member a mosaic set that i missed was at $700 (USD), and climbing on e-bay
2009-01-06 00643, 2009
pbryan
Wow.
2009-01-06 00647, 2009
pbryan
That's just plain nuts.
2009-01-06 00603, 2009
pbryan
So I shouldn't have thrown away the boxes then?
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
yllona
pbryan: DON NOT THROW AWAY MOSAIC BOXES OR LINER NOTES
2009-01-06 00641, 2009
pbryan
Just kidding!
2009-01-06 00647, 2009
pbryan
I would definitely not do that.
2009-01-06 00654, 2009
yllona phew, wipes brow
2009-01-06 00659, 2009
pbryan
LOL
2009-01-06 00608, 2009
pbryan
Sorry, didn't mean to give you a heart attack.
2009-01-06 00613, 2009
pbryan
I really like the packaging.
2009-01-06 00625, 2009
yllona
yeah, it's awesome stuff
2009-01-06 00613, 2009
yllona
for grins, if any of your mosaic is out of print, check ebay pricing
2009-01-06 00649, 2009
pbryan checks. I think Gerald Wilson went out of print.
2009-01-06 00609, 2009
yllona
and if you decide to sell any, please ping me first. pretty please
2009-01-06 00646, 2009
yllona
pbryan: i think gerald is OOP, also
2009-01-06 00652, 2009
pbryan
Okay.
2009-01-06 00626, 2009
pbryan
Well, not on eBay ATM, but Amazon.com has it selling for $253!
2009-01-06 00655, 2009
yllona
yeah, see waht i mean. that's ~100%
2009-01-06 00602, 2009
yllona
in a few months
2009-01-06 00610, 2009
pbryan
Wow.
2009-01-06 00613, 2009
pbryan
That's nuts.
2009-01-06 00616, 2009
yllona
yeah.
2009-01-06 00649, 2009
pbryan
I wonder if I became a Mosaic release scalper and bought-out all their stock, what would happen.
2009-01-06 00600, 2009
pbryan
Let's do some math. ~$120 x 5000 releases...
2009-01-06 00619, 2009
pbryan
Anyone have $600K to invest?
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
yllona
dunno. from ebay experience. i think there are a lot of dealers out there
2009-01-06 00647, 2009
yllona
for real
2009-01-06 00657, 2009
pbryan
Do you see new releases on eBay after it goes OOP?
2009-01-06 00619, 2009
yllona
yeah. but i don't check ebay often. it's depressing ;)
2009-01-06 00659, 2009
yllona
ruaok: you still there?
2009-01-06 00607, 2009
ruaok
yep
2009-01-06 00640, 2009
yllona
heh, i have an excerpt of something you'll want to see :)
2009-01-06 00652, 2009
yllona
one sec, then check you e-mail
2009-01-06 00631, 2009
ruaok
k
2009-01-06 00600, 2009
yllona
mail sent
2009-01-06 00638, 2009
ruaok
nice. one of the more interesting things I didn't see today. :)
2009-01-06 00640, 2009
ruaok
thanks for sharing
2009-01-06 00654, 2009
yllona
you're welcome.
2009-01-06 00651, 2009
yllona
and umm, check your cisco contacts... they're up to something big
2009-01-06 00613, 2009
ruaok
i dont really have any
2009-01-06 00609, 2009
yllona
heh. let's talk soon. check with goog or sun. they can hook up.