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      • yllona
        warp: i mostly listen to jazz and classical so track count isn't a good indicator. i often "join tracks" to complete a full work of music (or suite).
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      • pbryan
        Ah, okay.
      • 2009-01-06 00629, 2009

      • pbryan
        Total time in minutes?
      • 2009-01-06 00646, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: i buy about 10-12 CDs a month, if that's more helpful
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      • pbryan
        Like about 90 days' worth?
      • 2009-01-06 00623, 2009

      • yllona
        one sec, and i can tell you
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      • pbryan
        I'm guessing around the 90-days-continuous-music range.
      • 2009-01-06 00647, 2009

      • pbryan
        (presuming FLAC)
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      • yllona
        more more than that, closer to 112 days. i have one drive offline atm
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      • warp
        yllona: a terabyte is only three times what i'm rsyncing. i'm rsyncing at about 80kbyte/s,.. you're on fiber. should work unless you move stuff around a lot.
      • 2009-01-06 00625, 2009

      • pbryan
        Wow.
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      • yllona
        warp: i have physical copies -- why would do i need sync'd storage?
      • 2009-01-06 00618, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: are the physical copies in the same building?
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      • pbryan
        And if so, do you have lots of insurance?
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      • James1324
        hello
      • 2009-01-06 00656, 2009

      • James1324
        I'm new to this channel
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      • yllona
        in my entire collection i have (wait for it) less than 30 "digital music" purchases
      • 2009-01-06 00621, 2009

      • James1324
        but I'm wondering if I can create an .m3u file based on a folder with multiple subdirectories
      • 2009-01-06 00632, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: no separate building, same property. and yes i have insurance
      • 2009-01-06 00642, 2009

      • James1324
        I want to be able to select just this folder and create an m3u based on the entire thing
      • 2009-01-06 00650, 2009

      • warp
        my music is safe even if the house burns down.
      • 2009-01-06 00621, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: if my house burns down, i have other things to worry about ;)
      • 2009-01-06 00621, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: unsurance just gets you money. it doesn't get you all the work and effort of ripping music back, it doesn't get you all the work and effort of finding/collecting rare stuff. etc..
      • 2009-01-06 00604, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: yes, i know. but agin, as much as i love music. that would be the least of my worrries in a catastrophic event
      • 2009-01-06 00612, 2009

      • warp
        that's about the only thing I worry about when my house burns down... is my data safe? :)
      • 2009-01-06 00647, 2009

      • yllona
        yes. that's why you should have a fire-proof safe and a safe deposit box
      • 2009-01-06 00615, 2009

      • yllona
        number 1 concern: your life :P
      • 2009-01-06 00628, 2009

      • warp
        or make sure the data is backupped in another city 40km north of here :)
      • 2009-01-06 00604, 2009

      • yllona
        like are you still alive and not seriously injured? if yes, all the rest is gravy
      • 2009-01-06 00610, 2009

      • warp
        sure.
      • 2009-01-06 00632, 2009

      • warp gets ready for work.
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      • yllona
        #2 do you access to ally your important papers? 'cuz digital copies won't matter in an earthquake, flood or fire
      • 2009-01-06 00608, 2009

      • yllona
        if there's no electricity what good is digital? and also many state & fed'l agencies could care less about your digital back-up strategy. what are you gonna asy? i can restore my back-up as soon as you turn the power back on?"
      • 2009-01-06 00650, 2009

      • warp
        i don't have important papers.
      • 2009-01-06 00634, 2009

      • yllona
        birth certificate? driver's licence, certificate of citezenship?
      • 2009-01-06 00623, 2009

      • pbryan
        yllona: Interesting that you combine tracks. Any cues or anything to skip to different movements?
      • 2009-01-06 00636, 2009

      • yllona
        i shrugged it off too, until i worked 9/11 & hurricane katrina, and witnessed the clusterfuck first-hand
      • 2009-01-06 00642, 2009

      • pbryan
        Hi James1324.
      • 2009-01-06 00630, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan i just navigate via itunes / ipod interface
      • 2009-01-06 00652, 2009

      • pbryan
        yllona: Just scroll ahead to a time index?
      • 2009-01-06 00655, 2009

      • yllona
        combining tracks doesn't eliminate meta-data in itunes
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      • zen0__ has quit
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      • pbryan
        James1324: Under Linux, you could simply type "ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u"
      • 2009-01-06 00646, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: passport would be the most important of those, and that is easily replaced.
      • 2009-01-06 00603, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: it just combines the audio files, and concatenates metadata. so i set up track names / movement by the composer/name of the work,the title of each movement.
      • 2009-01-06 00606, 2009

      • warp
        (and I carry that with me pretty much all the time)
      • 2009-01-06 00620, 2009

      • pbryan
        yllona: Interesting feature.
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: I don't think i have a birth certificate :)
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • pbryan
        What file format?
      • 2009-01-06 00607, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: a passport is very useful agreed. but not everything you may need in the US (it only counts as one piece of ID here) often you may need two ID's (or more)
      • 2009-01-06 00639, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: .nl is different :)
      • 2009-01-06 00653, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        We did it!
      • 2009-01-06 00653, 2009

      • yllona
        warp: witness the crazy people claiming that barack obama wasn't a US citizen born in the US, thus ineligible to by US president, thay had to produce a his original "official" birth certificate
      • 2009-01-06 00640, 2009

      • pbryan
        MBChatLogger: Great!
      • 2009-01-06 00640, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        I'm logging. I don't understand 'Great!', pbryan. Try /msg MBChatLogger help
      • 2009-01-06 00600, 2009

      • pbryan
        Okay, well, as long as you don't talk about TRDs.
      • 2009-01-06 00605, 2009

      • warp
        yllona: I don't think such a thing exists here. I can probably get one of those from either my local muncipality or the muncipality where I was born, but i've never needed one.
      • 2009-01-06 00610, 2009

      • pbryan
        TRD
      • 2009-01-06 00650, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: i use 256 kbps AAC these days. i have mostly ripped 128 kbps AAC, s ome legacy MP# left around. tho i am re-ripping with more recent encoders.. i have legacy MP3 from the early mid-90s still
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      • pbryan
        LAME 3.98 is now transparent to my ears.
      • 2009-01-06 00642, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        trms are finally gone!
      • 2009-01-06 00642, 2009

      • pbryan
        TRM
      • 2009-01-06 00645, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: i can still artifacts in any MP3. MP4 is soo much better
      • 2009-01-06 00657, 2009

      • pbryan
        Even with LAME 3.98?
      • 2009-01-06 00612, 2009

      • pbryan
        I too could hear artifacts with every MP3 under 3.97
      • 2009-01-06 00623, 2009

      • pbryan
        The advances they made in 3.98 are remarkable.
      • 2009-01-06 00632, 2009

      • warp is afk
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      • warp
        bye!
      • 2009-01-06 00637, 2009

      • pbryan
        CYA.
      • 2009-01-06 00637, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: it also depends on what type of music you listen to, how it was aoriginally recorded and mastered, etc.
      • 2009-01-06 00644, 2009

      • pbryan
        yllona: Agreed.
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      • pbryan
        Classical and acoustic jazz were quite susceptible.
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: LAME may have legal issues here also. and also i ahve work stuff that is audio also -- LAME isn't acceptable
      • 2009-01-06 00628, 2009

      • pbryan
        Ah.
      • 2009-01-06 00644, 2009

      • pbryan
        yllona: BTW, I think it was you that encouraged me to look at Mosaic Records?
      • 2009-01-06 00603, 2009

      • pbryan
        (Perhaps a year or so ago.)
      • 2009-01-06 00632, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: yes, i remember :)
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • pbryan
        Thanks for the recommendation.
      • 2009-01-06 00658, 2009

      • pbryan
        I've really enjoyed my Mosaic purchases.
      • 2009-01-06 00601, 2009

      • yllona
        you're welcome. watch your checkbook... it's no joke
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      • pbryan
        No kidding.
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      • yllona
        :-D
      • 2009-01-06 00617, 2009

      • pbryan
        If I were buying 10-12 per month, I'd be filing for Chapter 11.
      • 2009-01-06 00611, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: those are single CDs, mostly i use amazon for that. mosaic is a "special" purchase... i save up for those
      • 2009-01-06 00622, 2009

      • pbryan
        :)
      • 2009-01-06 00612, 2009

      • yllona
        mosaic can often be limited releases, so i have missed out on some amazing stuff due to budget sadly. and ebay pricing for mosaic can be insane to the point of usury
      • 2009-01-06 00634, 2009

      • yllona
        so think of your mosaic purchases as an investment. rip'em and put them away somewhere safe. i have seen 600% mark-up on some mosaic sets on e-bay
      • 2009-01-06 00653, 2009

      • yllona
        i 'member a mosaic set that i missed was at $700 (USD), and climbing on e-bay
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      • pbryan
        Wow.
      • 2009-01-06 00647, 2009

      • pbryan
        That's just plain nuts.
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      • pbryan
        So I shouldn't have thrown away the boxes then?
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: DON NOT THROW AWAY MOSAIC BOXES OR LINER NOTES
      • 2009-01-06 00641, 2009

      • pbryan
        Just kidding!
      • 2009-01-06 00647, 2009

      • pbryan
        I would definitely not do that.
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      • yllona phew, wipes brow
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      • pbryan
        LOL
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      • pbryan
        Sorry, didn't mean to give you a heart attack.
      • 2009-01-06 00613, 2009

      • pbryan
        I really like the packaging.
      • 2009-01-06 00625, 2009

      • yllona
        yeah, it's awesome stuff
      • 2009-01-06 00613, 2009

      • yllona
        for grins, if any of your mosaic is out of print, check ebay pricing
      • 2009-01-06 00649, 2009

      • pbryan checks. I think Gerald Wilson went out of print.
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      • yllona
        and if you decide to sell any, please ping me first. pretty please
      • 2009-01-06 00646, 2009

      • yllona
        pbryan: i think gerald is OOP, also
      • 2009-01-06 00652, 2009

      • pbryan
        Okay.
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      • pbryan
        Well, not on eBay ATM, but Amazon.com has it selling for $253!
      • 2009-01-06 00655, 2009

      • yllona
        yeah, see waht i mean. that's ~100%
      • 2009-01-06 00602, 2009

      • yllona
        in a few months
      • 2009-01-06 00610, 2009

      • pbryan
        Wow.
      • 2009-01-06 00613, 2009

      • pbryan
        That's nuts.
      • 2009-01-06 00616, 2009

      • yllona
        yeah.
      • 2009-01-06 00649, 2009

      • pbryan
        I wonder if I became a Mosaic release scalper and bought-out all their stock, what would happen.
      • 2009-01-06 00600, 2009

      • pbryan
        Let's do some math. ~$120 x 5000 releases...
      • 2009-01-06 00619, 2009

      • pbryan
        Anyone have $600K to invest?
      • 2009-01-06 00638, 2009

      • yllona
        dunno. from ebay experience. i think there are a lot of dealers out there
      • 2009-01-06 00647, 2009

      • yllona
        for real
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      • pbryan
        Do you see new releases on eBay after it goes OOP?
      • 2009-01-06 00619, 2009

      • yllona
        yeah. but i don't check ebay often. it's depressing ;)
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      • yllona
        ruaok: you still there?
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      • ruaok
        yep
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      • yllona
        heh, i have an excerpt of something you'll want to see :)
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      • yllona
        one sec, then check you e-mail
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      • ruaok
        k
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      • yllona
        mail sent
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      • ruaok
        nice. one of the more interesting things I didn't see today. :)
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      • ruaok
        thanks for sharing
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      • yllona
        you're welcome.
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      • yllona
        and umm, check your cisco contacts... they're up to something big
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      • ruaok
        i dont really have any
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      • yllona
        heh. let's talk soon. check with goog or sun. they can hook up.
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      • yllona
        i am so not kidding here
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      • yllona
        laterz, will check y'all on the flip side
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