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2009-02-02 03332, 2009
nikki
it says "English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…" which is linked to the change languages page
2009-02-02 03331, 2009
navap_
Yes and they also have display settings on that page
2009-02-02 03309, 2009
nikki
ah, at the bottom
2009-02-02 03335, 2009
navap_
What about a select box at the top right of the page?
2009-02-02 03354, 2009
navap_
Solves the Spanish problem, and makes good use of that space.
2009-02-02 03355, 2009
nikki
sure
2009-02-02 03300, 2009
navap_
The issue I raised was, that the space is created (/increased) when the sidebar is toggled off.
2009-02-02 03318, 2009
navap_
So I would recommend putting something there that you would normally have access to on the sidebar.
2009-02-02 03355, 2009
nikki
hmm... maybe if the user hasn't set a language, it could be a dropdown, but if they have, just a link to the preferences
2009-02-02 03343, 2009
navap_
That would work
2009-02-02 03339, 2009
nikki
'cause most people aren't going to need to change their language once they've picked it, so it seems a bit silly to include a form every time they load a page
2009-02-02 03303, 2009
navap_
Although, I would want the link to point somewhere else, maybe a Getting Started guide?
2009-02-02 03341, 2009
nikki
hm?
2009-02-02 03307, 2009
navap_
Agreed, that is one of the reasons I would be very opposed to having a language selection front and centre on every page.
2009-02-02 03320, 2009
navap_
The link that is displayed instead of a language selectionl
2009-02-02 03359, 2009
nikki
but why would "English" link to a getting started guide?
2009-02-02 03323, 2009
navap_
hm?
2009-02-02 03304, 2009
navap_
I'm thinking of a dropdown box on the top right, once you have picked a language it could be replaced with a link to a Getting Started guide.
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navap_
There I go :/
2009-02-02 03325, 2009
nikki
I don't think we should... what if someone picks the wrong language? then it's just panic because they don't know where to change it
2009-02-02 03355, 2009
nikki
but if they can just follow a link from the same place, it takes them to where they can change it
2009-02-02 03310, 2009
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navap
Thats a good point, but we're still talking about having this on the top right correct?
2009-02-02 03330, 2009
nikki
yes
2009-02-02 03301, 2009
nikki
but presumably it would also be part of the preferences (since it is a preference...)
2009-02-02 03325, 2009
navap
Yes, I would expect something like that
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nikki
:O
2009-02-02 03306, 2009
nikki
it snowed!
2009-02-02 03312, 2009
nikki goes into shock
2009-02-02 03314, 2009
navap
You're in the UK right? I'm guessing it doesn't snow there often?
2009-02-02 03310, 2009
nikki
it rarely snows when I'm around
2009-02-02 03316, 2009
nikki
when I was about 12, it snowed a lot and I wanted a sledge to go down this big hill near where I lived... we couldn't find one until after the snow had gone, so my mum got one anyway and it's never snowed (and lasted more than a few hours) since :P
2009-02-02 03345, 2009
nikki
it'll probably have all melted in about 6 hours
2009-02-02 03350, 2009
navap
Still have that sled?
2009-02-02 03359, 2009
nikki
not here
2009-02-02 03306, 2009
nikki
and I don't have a hill here either
2009-02-02 03333, 2009
navap
:(
2009-02-02 03347, 2009
navap
If I want to sled, I can go to a parking lot :p
2009-02-02 03352, 2009
navap
Huge snow banks :p
2009-02-02 03309, 2009
nikki
heh... bet there'll be chaos with the trains this morning though >D
2009-02-02 03312, 2009
nikki
it's not very deep snow, maybe an inch :P
2009-02-02 03353, 2009
navap
pfft that's nothing
2009-02-02 03300, 2009
nikki
exactly :(
2009-02-02 03317, 2009
nikki
that's why it melts so quickly :P
2009-02-02 03353, 2009
nikki
still causes chaos for the trains, they're allergic to weather
2009-02-02 03316, 2009
navap
An inch of snow..comon
2009-02-02 03330, 2009
navap
How does an inch of snow manage to scare a huge train
2009-02-02 03310, 2009
nikki
butbutbut it's on the conductor rail D:
2009-02-02 03323, 2009
nikki
well, that was the excuse last time it snowed
2009-02-02 03341, 2009
nikki
and an inch of snow isn't common here :P
2009-02-02 03343, 2009
navap
And what happens if snow gets on the conductor rail?
2009-02-02 03353, 2009
nikki
it stops it conducting I guess
2009-02-02 03319, 2009
navap
Oh, conducter as in electricity..lol
2009-02-02 03331, 2009
brianfreud
nikki: feel free to keep stealing my weather - supposed to get another 12 inches today :(
2009-02-02 03351, 2009
nikki has never seen 12 inches of snow in her life
2009-02-02 03352, 2009
navap
heh have fun
2009-02-02 03350, 2009
alastairp
never seen any snow that wasn't 90% melted and a block of ice already :(
2009-02-02 03327, 2009
nikki
I suppose there's probably deeper snow elsewhere, but it's never where I am :/
haha that sounds so pathetic, you guys get snow and people get all excited and start sending pictures into the BBC to make headlines :p
2009-02-02 03335, 2009
navap
s/snow/inch of snow :p
2009-02-02 03343, 2009
nikki
:P
2009-02-02 03321, 2009
nikki
people send the bbc all sorts of pictures, so that's nothing new, but yes, snow is headline news here :P
2009-02-02 03338, 2009
nikki
I imagine it would be in lots of countries, actually, just ones which are warmer than here
2009-02-02 03305, 2009
navap
I just find it weird to think of a country where it doesn't snow. I mean of course there is the holiday type places and really hot places where obviously it doesn't now, but the UK..that's just weird.
2009-02-02 03343, 2009
nikki
it snows in *some* places... but those places are usually not the inhabited places :P
yeah, we're at 1977 levels here now, for the last time we had this much snow
2009-02-02 03341, 2009
nikki
do you think http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=80… should set to high quality? it looks kinda lacking in information to me, but it's not like I've really paid much attention to the data quality things
2009-02-02 03306, 2009
nikki
(I mean, someone made an edit to change the quality)
2009-02-02 03359, 2009
navap
"Any edit entered from this point on should be harder to apply."
2009-02-02 03316, 2009
navap
I don't think that statement is applicable to that release, so I wouldn't agree with raising the quality.
2009-02-02 03322, 2009
navap
The wiki is pretty sketchy on details though
2009-02-02 03339, 2009
nikki
you could vote on it >D
2009-02-02 03338, 2009
navap
The editor is brand new, he has entered a new artist, a new release for that artist, and changed the data quality to high.
2009-02-02 03313, 2009
nikki
bah, I guess I'll have to do it
2009-02-02 03339, 2009
navap
Sorry, I'm in the middle of Battlestar Galactica and don't want to word a "Welcome to mb, your edit is wrong" note.
2009-02-02 03326, 2009
nikki
excuses ¬_¬
2009-02-02 03351, 2009
navap
Well I also feel like an ass when I do that, but I guess that's just another excuse :p
2009-02-02 03356, 2009
dasjoe
Uh, how do I find out whether a CD release has been remastered for its MP3 release?
2009-02-02 03308, 2009
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nikki
I tried making puids of two versions once but I think I ended up with the same set
2009-02-02 03355, 2009
dasjoe
Heh, I'm fingerprinting the MP3s and MB splits them across two versions of the same release, neither of which is the original or correct one :p
2009-02-02 03316, 2009
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2009-02-02 03302, 2009
navap
That was an intense episode of BSG!
2009-02-02 03344, 2009
navap
Argh I want to know what happens next :(
2009-02-02 03330, 2009
Wizzcat
shush, no spoilers >:(
2009-02-02 03352, 2009
navap
It's intense, that's all you'll get out of me ;)
2009-02-02 03315, 2009
dasjoe
Sorry for being offtopic, but are libpam-unix and libpam-tmpdir safe to remove? aptitude lists nothing depending on them
2009-02-02 03314, 2009
navap
I don't really know, but doesn't aptitude have an autoremove or purge command that removes anything that isn't needed?
2009-02-02 03351, 2009
dasjoe
Yes, which works quite nicely. The problem is that the system was preinstalled with a lot of packages installed manually, so I marked all as automatically installed and now I'm going through the list, selecting only those which I really need :)
2009-02-02 03323, 2009
nikki
if nothing depends on them, you should be fine
2009-02-02 03340, 2009
nikki
apt screams at me if I try and remove anything critical :P
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alastairp
dasjoe: you can always use apt-cache rdepends
2009-02-02 03302, 2009
alastairp
hmm, actually
2009-02-02 03309, 2009
alastairp
in this case you probably want depends
2009-02-02 03348, 2009
alastairp
no, wait. rdepends is right...
2009-02-02 03325, 2009
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warp
dasjoe: debfoster!
2009-02-02 03349, 2009
dasjoe
Thanks, I'll look into that
2009-02-02 03348, 2009
dasjoe
I've read a bit about debfoster, I got the impression it'd only work on newly installed packages
2009-02-02 03300, 2009
nikki snickers
2009-02-02 03304, 2009
nikki
I knew it'd be chaos
2009-02-02 03326, 2009
nikki
apparently there are no buses running in london at all :o
2009-02-02 03326, 2009
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nikki
and the tube lines are suspended where they're not underground
2009-02-02 03358, 2009
warp
dasjoe: unless you've run debfoster before, I think it asks about almost any package.
2009-02-02 03352, 2009
warp
(debfoster remembers which packages you said you want to keep, so if you run it again in a few months, it won't ask about those by default)
2009-02-02 03315, 2009
nikki
ah, that sounds a bit like some script djce wrote
2009-02-02 03320, 2009
nikki should try it out
2009-02-02 03326, 2009
dasjoe
Sounds perfect
2009-02-02 03339, 2009
warp is at work and should be working :)
2009-02-02 03343, 2009
warp
afk
2009-02-02 03350, 2009
nikki
pfft. that's no fun :P
2009-02-02 03303, 2009
alastairp
nikki: no busses because of rain?
2009-02-02 03315, 2009
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alastairp
er
2009-02-02 03317, 2009
alastairp
snow
2009-02-02 03337, 2009
nikki
because of the snow, yeah
2009-02-02 03312, 2009
luks
I'd expect that in some country not used to snow, but UK?
