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      • alip
        can genpuid output the fingerprint it generates?

        • 2009-03-01 06001, 2009

      • alip
        i've written a tool to generate fingerprints, i need to test it but i'm on 64 bit so can't run genpuid

        • 2009-03-01 06008, 2009

      • alip
        some help would be appreciated :)

        • 2009-03-01 06041, 2009

      • warp doesn't use fingerprinting so can't help.

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      • nikki
        I do prefer headphones though... they get the sound where I want it... I haven't had my own speakers since I was 16

        • 2009-03-01 06001, 2009

      • warp
        :)

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      • alip
        luks: ping

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      • Munger
        My network drives have disapeared from the file browser. They are still mounted and mapped

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      • alip
        alip is now known as alip_na

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      • alip_na
        alip_na is now known as alip

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      • alip
        alip is now known as alip_na

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      • alip_na
        alip_na is now known as alip

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      • navap
        Isn't saying "chanson singer" redundant? Doesn't "chanson" mean song in French?

        • 2009-03-01 06002, 2009

      • srotta
        At least outside France it has certain connotations. Not every singer sings chansons.

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      • schubi
        its an own genre

        • 2009-03-01 06037, 2009

      • navap
        Ah I see

        • 2009-03-01 06002, 2009

      • schubi
        focus on words/text/lyrics, the music just supports

        • 2009-03-01 06016, 2009

      • navap
        I read "song singer" and found it funny :p

        • 2009-03-01 06040, 2009

      • schubi
        I guess its the same with 'rock singer'...

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      • navap
        Well, no, if rock artist was called a "rock song singer" then yes I would find that to be the same thing.

        • 2009-03-01 06048, 2009

      • schubi
        hehe

        • 2009-03-01 06056, 2009

      • navap
        Rock doesn't mean 'song' like 'chanson' does.

        • 2009-03-01 06012, 2009

      • navap
        And people complain English is weird :p

        • 2009-03-01 06036, 2009

      • schubi
        tell me... still learning after living for more than 2 years in English speaking countries...

        • 2009-03-01 06033, 2009

      • nikki
        all languages are weird :P

        • 2009-03-01 06004, 2009

      • schubi
        I never want to learn Chinese! :)

        • 2009-03-01 06013, 2009

      • schubi
        Must be the most difficult one

        • 2009-03-01 06035, 2009

      • nikki
        depends what you find difficult

        • 2009-03-01 06049, 2009

      • navap
        heh I was just going to dig out that link of yours :p

        • 2009-03-01 06059, 2009

      • nikki
        which link of mine?

        • 2009-03-01 06007, 2009

      • navap
        "It's all greek to me"

        • 2009-03-01 06011, 2009

      • nikki
        ohh

        • 2009-03-01 06031, 2009

      • navap
        http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1024

        • 2009-03-01 06032, 2009

      • nikki
        I thought you meant the finnish one

        • 2009-03-01 06048, 2009

      • srotta
        Finnish is easy.

        • 2009-03-01 06051, 2009

      • srotta
        You just speak.

        • 2009-03-01 06052, 2009

      • srotta
        8)

        • 2009-03-01 06001, 2009

      • srotta
        "It comes naturally."

        • 2009-03-01 06045, 2009

      • navap
        You know how people get knots in their back..well the pillow I have behind me has somehow aquired knots of its own, and they're digging into me. I have to give it a massage in order for me to be able to sit comfortably :/

        • 2009-03-01 06004, 2009

      • navap
        Need to find a new one to wear in

        • 2009-03-01 06016, 2009

      • nikki
        http://www.idiocentrism.com/squib.finn2.htm is the thing I meant

        • 2009-03-01 06021, 2009

      • nikki
        I'm sure I've linked it before

        • 2009-03-01 06037, 2009

      • alip
        this is literally driving me crazy, anyone can figure out why this http://dpaste.com/3845/plain/ generates wrong fingerprints?

        • 2009-03-01 06021, 2009

      • alip
        look at the create_print function

        • 2009-03-01 06057, 2009

      • navap
        hmm that looks very familiar. "5. Finnish has longer and better swear words than any other language." heh

        • 2009-03-01 06031, 2009

      • navap
        haha Ya I've read this before :p

        • 2009-03-01 06055, 2009

      • nikki
        I knew I'd linked it before

        • 2009-03-01 06056, 2009

      • navap
        "ää : like 'e' in 'expatiatory,' but longer and more intense. Mouth as open as possible, ears backward and plastered to head."

        • 2009-03-01 06038, 2009

      • navap
        Here's one I found a year or so ago, I'm sure you'll find it interesting :p http://pepper.idge.net/japanese/

        • 2009-03-01 06010, 2009

      • schubi is of now... dinner...

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      • navap
        Bye

        • 2009-03-01 06007, 2009

      • schubi
        bye bye

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      • nikki has seen that before

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      • navap
        heh I like that quit message.

        • 2009-03-01 06001, 2009

      • nikki
        been a loooooong time though

        • 2009-03-01 06026, 2009

      • navap
        Ah, of course you have.

        • 2009-03-01 06006, 2009

      • nikki
        it's funny though :D

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      • navap
        Indeed it is :D "You are supposed to figure these things out from the "context", which is a German word meaning "you're screwed"."

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      • Munger
        I really don't know what to do with those Orbis CDS, "The Blues Collection" It's a bigger mess than I thought

        • 2009-03-01 06006, 2009

      • navap
        I cleaned some of Orbis' catalog up today, it was more the Classical Collection though. I stayed clear of the Blues one :p

        • 2009-03-01 06050, 2009

      • Munger
        You remember we kinda agreed thet they chould be labelled as 'The Blues Collection 6: Blah blah' ?

        • 2009-03-01 06004, 2009

      • navap
        It's really not that big of a problem actually. What makes it seem like a big problem is that one can't sort through the existing releases easily because of UI constaints.

        • 2009-03-01 06007, 2009

      • Munger
        s/chould/should

        • 2009-03-01 06008, 2009

      • navap
        Yes

        • 2009-03-01 06016, 2009

      • Munger
        That won't work

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      • navap
        Oh?

        • 2009-03-01 06044, 2009

      • Munger
        Nope. Mine are UK releases, catalog numbers like BLU NC 005

        • 2009-03-01 06023, 2009

      • Munger
        It appears that some have catalog numbers like BLU GNC 005 - these were released in Germany the year after

        • 2009-03-01 06037, 2009

      • Munger
        .....and the volume numbers differ from the UK releases

        • 2009-03-01 06002, 2009

      • Munger
        What was volume 50 in the UK, was volume 52 in Germany

        • 2009-03-01 06007, 2009

      • navap
        Yes I realize, I thought about it, and it's really not that big of a problem. And if you wait a couple of weeks, a beta version of the next server will come out - allowing you to sort the columns on the label page - that will make evrything a lot easier.

        • 2009-03-01 06031, 2009

      • navap
        Yes, there will be some releases that will be duplicated - only because the title of the release is different.

        • 2009-03-01 06057, 2009

      • navap
        I think the majority of the releases use the same volume number for UK and German.

        • 2009-03-01 06051, 2009

      • Munger
        All those that nave BLU GNC catalog numbers should probably be altered to reflect that they were German releases as soon as we can confirm that this was indeed the case (I think the 'G' is a pretty good hint)

        • 2009-03-01 06032, 2009

      • navap
        I think a lot of them already have the release country listed as Germany actually.

        • 2009-03-01 06051, 2009

      • navap
        Not 100% though, I haven't done as much poking around as you I'm sure.

        • 2009-03-01 06017, 2009

      • Munger
        OK. I haven't checked too many. I went for a long drink shortly after I realised the extent of the problem

        • 2009-03-01 06024, 2009

      • navap
        haha

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      • navap
        It's really not that big of a deal :)

        • 2009-03-01 06057, 2009

      • navap
        Time consuming maybe, but not that big of a deal :p

        • 2009-03-01 06002, 2009

      • Munger
        OK. So we stick to the agreed naming convention and create dupes as required?

        • 2009-03-01 06009, 2009

      • navap
        Yes

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      • navap
        I voted no on an edit of yours that was renaming a German release to conform to the UK title, I hope you cancelled that.

        • 2009-03-01 06055, 2009

      • Munger
        I suppose it really needs a wiki page to clarify the mess

        • 2009-03-01 06016, 2009

      • Munger
        Probably. Got a link?

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      • navap
        You should have got an email with it.

        • 2009-03-01 06021, 2009

      • navap
        http://musicbrainz.uservoice.com/pages/general/su… http://musicbrainz.uservoice.com/pages/general/su… </shameless plug> Just incase anyone has any votes left. I had to remove votes in order to create those two :/

        • 2009-03-01 06035, 2009

      • navap
        Damn those URLs are ugly :(

        • 2009-03-01 06011, 2009

      • Munger
        Cancelled ;-)

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      • Munger
        Would be nice to generate tinyurl entries

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      • Munger
        Gotta go shopping. When I get back I'l start with a wiki page and try and tie up the loose ends with that damned collectio

        • 2009-03-01 06012, 2009

      • navap
        Okay

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      • Munger
        I don't have the German CDs, but I know one of the UK ones was pressed with the wrong track on the CD. What was on the disk was a duplicate of a previous CD and bore no relation to the cover - the lost album

        • 2009-03-01 06051, 2009

      • navap
        brianfreud: Not sure if you know, but sorting on TT chokes with double digit numbers. 1, 10, 11..19, 2, 20, 21..29, 3 etc

        • 2009-03-01 06012, 2009

      • navap
        Just to confuse things of course ;)

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      • LotR
        sounds like it is string sorting

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      • Munger
        It would be nive to know if they fixed that in the German release - maybe I can finally complete the collection

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      • creature
        OK, so, a while ago I upgraded to Picard 0.11, and since then neither of the two plugins I use have worked (Cover Art Downloader and the genre-tags-from-last-fm). What gives?

        • 2009-03-01 06016, 2009

      • navap
        The plugin authors probably haven't updated them? Go and give them a poke ;)

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      • creature
        The plugin page says they're compatible.

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      • navap
        oh, hm

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      • creature
        Maybe I need to redownload them to be compatible.

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      • creature
        Yep, that fixed it. :) Thanks for the mental poke.

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      • navap
        :)

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      • chefkoch
        chefkoch is now known as chefkoch_AW

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      • navap
        Elektra isn't a proper noun correct? It's a style of music, so should be in lower case."(Anton Wick Elektra remix)"

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      • brianfreud
        navap: which column/page?

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      • navap
        Any I imagine, http://test.musicbrainz.org/label/cf95e173-9b4b-4…

        • 2009-03-01 06056, 2009

      • navap
        Sort by title

        • 2009-03-01 06020, 2009

      • navap
        THe artist page also does it.

        • 2009-03-01 06035, 2009

      • brianfreud
        well, the code supports multiple types of sorting methods - 'any' doesn't quite tell me which columns are using the wrong (alpha, not #) one :)

        • 2009-03-01 06006, 2009

      • navap
        Ah, sorry. I was refering to title sorting.

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      • brianfreud
        so release titles with numbers in them?

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      • navap
        Yes

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      • brianfreud
        the set 1, the set 11, the set 2, the set 22, etc?

        • 2009-03-01 06051, 2009

      • navap
        Yes

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      • brianfreud
        I'll look, but I don't think there's much I can do about those

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      • navap
        :S That's not good :(

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      • brianfreud
        Already played with that column's sort type a bit. If I use a numeric sorting routine on that column, it breaks on bootlegs

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      • navap
        It does it on the PUID column as well, not that I imagine sorting by PUID will be that common of an occurcnce.

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      • brianfreud
        :P

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      • navap
        It doesn't do it on the tracks column though.

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      • nikki
        how does it break on bootlegs?

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      • brianfreud
        it tried to use a shortDate sorting scheme on them, and then didn't sort any a-zA-Z

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      • navap
        whoa..wait a minute, have we always had sorting on label pages on the current server?

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      • navap
        (Same problem though)

        • 2009-03-01 06021, 2009

      • nikki
        yes

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      • navap
        Actually..much worse

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      • nikki
        or at least for a long time

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      • brianfreud
        navap, since last year

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      • navap
        It sorts 54 before 10..

        • 2009-03-01 06001, 2009

      • navap
        ops nvm, hidden spelling mistake