the city streets and shops were all flooded in town here
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catgroove
:s
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voiceinsideyou
does anyone know if it's possible to make MediaWiki do multi-level redirects?
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nikki
multi-level redirects?
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Milosz
how large is the current server's database?
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voiceinsideyou
well the migration has created redirections AdvancedRelationshipType -> Advanced Relationship Type , but if I change "Advanced Relationship Type" to redirect to "Category:Advanced Relationship Type" and then visit "AdvancedRelationshipType" it won't redirect all teh way through to the category
2009-04-01 09155, 2009
voiceinsideyou
so i'm wondering if now I have to go back through all the camel case redirect pages and change them as well >_<
Milosz: Which database? The one with the actual MB data in, or the wiki, or..?
2009-04-01 09136, 2009
FauxFaux
(On disc? In rows, tables..?)
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Milosz
FauxFaux, on disk, the MB data
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Milosz
I just wondered how feasible it would be to create a quick-deploy system for the server for users
2009-04-01 09148, 2009
Milosz
Basically, and I don't know if that sounds heretic or not, a Debian package that installs and sets everything up as needed, and then the people only need to download the actual server data
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FauxFaux
Nah, it's multliple gigabytes, even without indexes (which takes ages).
2009-04-01 09141, 2009
FauxFaux
The minimum you need to download from mb to get current set-up is, like, 600mb.
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Milosz
OK it's not for everyday users
2009-04-01 09108, 2009
Milosz
The idea is still with developers or people who run a mirror
2009-04-01 09130, 2009
Milosz
Or maybe I also had users in mind
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FauxFaux
Many of the dependencies aren't in debian, either, which also doesn't help.
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FauxFaux
Classic nor tt
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Milosz
It was just figurative really
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Milosz
calling it a "Debian Package" :)
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LotR
FauxFaux: so you make the package set up a local::lib tree..
2009-04-01 09153, 2009
FauxFaux
I'm not syaing it's not possible, it's just not pretty or easy to maintain. :P
2009-04-01 09137, 2009
LotR
local::lib makes installing the perl deps really easy. I'd say the hard part would be getting postgresql configured from a different package
so... about what I said yesterday... are you ok with it? :o
2009-04-01 09126, 2009
jesus2099
Yes I am. Actually I read the two pages about that in the wiki and I think I might quite fit in that.
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nikki
yay!
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jesus2099
wow ho
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jesus2099
No lame autoedits from me. I keep those crap in normal mode of course. I do crap at least twice a month
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jesus2099_
Hey nikki, thanks you! ;) I already have two seconders thanks guys debris77 and gfmorris!
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jesus2099_
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jesus2099
I have to create myself a crappy e-mail adress to eventually at least subscribe to one ML.
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MClemo
20k edits and no autoeditor yet. this is weird
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Wizzcat
probably declined
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nikki
yes, two years ago for being too inexperienced
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Wizzcat
time to try again? an editor that active adding to the vote queue isn't doing anyone any favours :p
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MClemo
20k should be experience enough now
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nikki
now we just have to wait :P
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MClemo voted
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MClemo
now you have to wonder if yes or NO
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MClemo
no should automatically be converted to NO in edit notes
2009-04-01 09113, 2009
MClemo
that would be awesome
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nikki
no it shouldn't ¬_¬
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Wizzcat
oh right, it was an actual nomination, huzzah :p
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nikki knows how you voted :P
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MClemo
nikki checks the page every x seconds ;)
2009-04-01 09131, 2009
nikki
no no, but I can do basic maths! :P
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MClemo
actually if one would do that automatically, the votes wouldnt be anonymous
2009-04-01 09157, 2009
MClemo
then I would know who voted against me lol
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Wizzcat
I did that during my election, managed to pinpoint a stray nay vote down to two people :)
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MClemo
nice one
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Wizzcat
probably makes sense not to publish who's voted until after the elction is over
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MClemo
yeah
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nikki
I only got 5 votes iirc
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nikki
and I think they were all yes
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MClemo
if the candidate writes some 5-liner to check the page every few seconds you know exactly who voted what
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nikki
I seem to remember that for a while the candidate couldn't see the vote totals, just who'd voted
2009-04-01 09131, 2009
nikki
or maybe I'm going insane...
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nikki
I could see them back in 2004 and I'm told candidates can see them now, so maybe it changed twice
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MClemo
I did see the totals
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MClemo
and you see who voted with a timestamp - that's everything you need. Unless two vote exactly the same time
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nikki
I don't think it's that important though, the main thing is so that people can vote without everyone else going "OMG YOU VOTED NO EXPLAIN YOURSELF NOW", it could be made even more secret, but I haven't seen anyone complain that it's not secret enough as it is
2009-04-01 09106, 2009
warp
oh whee. i didn't get any no votes.
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MClemo
well, it's not secret, that's my point
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MClemo
but you have to put some effort in it
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MClemo
but I agree that it's probably not that important
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nikki
the voters themselves don't see it, only the proposer, seconders and candidate... if the candidate started demanding to know why some person voted no, I'd withdraw the nomination if I proposed them :P
2009-04-01 09106, 2009
nikki
and the proposer/seconders should know better than to tell people even if they know
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MClemo
I'll haunt you as a ghost when a candidate shoots me because he/she knows I voted NOOO
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Wizzcat
cue revenge voting!
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jesus2099
I'm back in this chat. I've had a look at the election page, I'm grateful for so much love guys!
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jesus2099
OH MY COD **** VOTED NO I'M LEAVING FOR GOD!!
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MClemo
you are jesus, no surprise you leave for god
2009-04-01 09109, 2009
jesus2099
I have never met him. I just met god2000 in a forum though.
