#musicbrainz

hello, long time no see #MB!

bah...

hey, tracks lookup ok, but shouldn't the tagger link update the file?

Clicking the tagger link only loads that release's information into Picard (or possibly any other compatible tagger).

Or maybe I misunderstood you..

that doesn't seem to happen (ubuntu 8.04)

You're talking about the green tagger links that show up on musicbrainz.org?

hm, a restart fixes that

And you have Picard open before you click the link?

yes yes

maybe i am confused, but the interface has me stymied

i remember using musicbrains back when picard was the next generation tagger

Well the next generation has arrived so we can't keep calling it "next generation" :) It should still be pretty much the same UI though as it was a few versions back.

Have a quick skim through http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_Documentation

Or better yet, ask me a question before I end up falling asleep :)

i really should sleep too

this seems to make sense now

thanks :)

No problem, good night!

btw, documentation was hard to find

Oh?

It's pretty clearly linked from Picard's home page: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard

well i found general faq's and such ok, but those specific instructions

+not

Going to Help from within Picard should also direct you to that documentation page.

i'm sorry, i must have been temporarily unsmart, it is clear

i blame the hour

again, thanks and nite

heh

good night

Eating fish for breakfast was the worst idea ever

all i've been able to smell and taste since this morning has been mackerel :(

* navap

I went to a friend's house for fish tacos a week or so ago. They were delicious, but I couldn't smell anything but fried fish for a couple of days.

well, I like fish, and I had some mackerel to eat

so I thought fish for breakfast!

I'm mostly worried about the gym, because I sweat like crazy now any way that we're on heavy weights, and I think fishy sweat is going to be even worse

mwahaha

I wish my university didn't charge extra for summer gym access.

it's cost me about 50 quid for 10 weeks

which is alright. it's not a brilliant gym, but all I need is plates, a squat rack, a bench and barbells

i sure would be tempted to pay extra for a place with some air conditioning though...

The summer here is around $30, I think. Which is better than any other gym I'd find, and it's well-equipped. But I'm poor.

And I don't think they'll let me pay it with financial aid.

ah

sorry to disturb your talk but: is there any way, if an album has different ASINs in different countries, to choose a specific one for the cover art retrieval?

Mineo: Nope.

:(

Maybe once NGS comes out, I’m not sure

nope, NGS doesn't really change that (it just uses one of them)

ok, I'm off - Leftmost i'll try and get back to meet tonight, I might be a little late because I have to help some guy with some PHP

No worries.

Doesn’t NGS do some stuff with associating things with actual releases (e.g. disc IDs and corresponding release events)?

I would’ve thought that if it did that, it would also connect ASINs to those release events.

well, that's unfortunate

I agree.

Speaking of NGS: On the NGS beta, how do you go about setting a release’s format?

Since a release can now consist of several mediums you can't set a *release* format, only a medium format.

Fair enough...where do you do that? I would expect it to be in the same place as packaging...

The stuff in the sidebar is release specific information, it applies to the entire release - the format(s) do not. They're found on the tracklist tab of the release editor.

er s/sidebar/first tab/

haha

Also, I see that you can’t apparently change the release(?) type; the dropdown says album, and is disabled.

Is there a way to do that?

If you're editing a release then the release type is taken from the release group the release is in.

A release doesn't have a "type" anymore, that's only at the release group level.

Aha.

Then why’s it displayed on the release editor. :-p

Let me ask you this: If it wasn't displayed, wouldn't you have wondered where it was?

Well, I would have looked for it somewhere else...

or asked.

But putting it on the release editor raises the question for all: “this is obviously where I’m supposed to be editing the type [since it has a widget there], now why is it disabled?”

Instead of “where do I go to edit the album type?”

Which at least gives me the idea that I need to search more.

I think that question will be answered once we stick in the appropriate documentation in the right side of the first tab.

Perhaps.

It's a good observation though, maybe the type doesn't need to be shown at all in the release editor.

How about the format selection being on the tracklist tab? Shouldn’t it and packaging go together?

Although then the editor wouldn't be 100% consistent because the type needs to be asked when adding a new release outside of an existing release group.

When you buy a two disc album, does each disc come in different packaging?

Actually I'm not too sure how packaging will work with a release that has different medium formats.

A CD+Vinyl release probably can't be classified as having just one type of packaging.

the packaging stuff is pretty basic anyway, it's not like you can say something came in a normal jewel case with a bonus disc in a slim jewel case in a cardboard thingy to keep the discs together

http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Next_Generation_Sch... <- but this is all we've got at the moment

I’m a bit surprised that the “advanced” track editor isn’t the default...

given that the “basic” one seems to be a free-form text editor.

people think tables are too databasey :(

I think free-form text editors are too pain-in-the-ass-and-you-have-to-guess-what-the-format-is-ey.

nikki, they're wrong then.

Leftmost: I never said they were right :P

We're a database, oddly enough.

nikki: ??

I was just looking at that wiki page I linked and was thinking about the different ones I have

There’re some problems with the basic text editor, too...

and I've got loads which would come under digipak I think, but they're all sorts of sizes