but yeah; on the album art, the most obvious artist is "Lantis feat.初音ミク・鏡音リン・巡音ルカ・MEIKO" or so
2010-09-16 25903, 2010
kepstin
which isn't particularly nice. But just "Lantis" doesn't make much sense as an artist; I suppose I could use the person who programmed the voice synthesizers...
2010-09-16 25957, 2010
kepstin goes off to research which release those duplicated ISRCs actually belong to
2010-09-16 25959, 2010
KingJ
kepstin: I think attributing it to the "manipulator" is probably your best bet.
had the wrong MBID in my copy/paste buffer, and the release it actually went on looks almost the same :/
2010-09-16 25901, 2010
kepstin
nikki, how on earth did you manage to spot that?
2010-09-16 25921, 2010
nikki
I searched the database for tracks with more than one isrc :)
2010-09-16 25930, 2010
kepstin
and with different titles?
2010-09-16 25918, 2010
kepstin
er, wait, I see
2010-09-16 25928, 2010
kepstin
searched for tracks with multiple ISRCs assigned to them
2010-09-16 25932, 2010
nikki nods
2010-09-16 25917, 2010
nikki
there's almost 400... and most of the ones I've checked are are various artists ones where I've got no hope of finding the original edit >_<
2010-09-16 25947, 2010
kepstin
some quick checking on last.fm is showing that most people seem to be using the 'Lantis feat.初音ミク' form as the track artist, searching the manipulators gets nothing.
2010-09-16 25946, 2010
KingJ
Bah. Lantis feat.初音ミク will have to do then, even though it seems a bit odd.
2010-09-16 25902, 2010
kepstin
yeah, well, the "X feat. 初音ミク" style is very popular with the various people doing vocaloid music
never seen 'Record Label feat. 初音ミク' before tho :)
2010-09-16 25955, 2010
KingJ
I can understand Composer feat.初音ミク, but Record Label feat.初音ミク just dosen't seem right
2010-09-16 25952, 2010
kepstin
it's basically true tho; the subtitle on the album is (more-or-less) "Hear Lantis's music sung by Hatsune Miku"
2010-09-16 25924, 2010
kepstin
and it's a bunch of anime theme songs published by Lantis; that's the only relation between them.
2010-09-16 25945, 2010
KingJ
Ah, I forgot that this is a remix of Lantis tunes rather than original content. That makes a bit more sene.
2010-09-16 25948, 2010
KingJ
sense
2010-09-16 25942, 2010
kepstin
looks like on a couple of them they actually started with the original masters; they replaced the chorus vocals chorus vocals that were present in the karaoke versions.
2010-09-16 25937, 2010
kepstin
hmm. I think we need a 'programmed voice synthesizer on' AR :)
2010-09-16 25948, 2010
KingJ
heh
2010-09-16 25917, 2010
kepstin
hmm. actually
2010-09-16 25936, 2010
kepstin
all we actually need is 'Voice Synthesizer' added as an instrument
2010-09-16 25947, 2010
kepstin
then the regular 'programmed' ar will work
2010-09-16 25911, 2010
herojoker
nice
2010-09-16 25952, 2010
nikki points kepstin to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Talk:Advanced_Instrument_Tree
2010-09-16 25922, 2010
leonardo joined the channel
2010-09-16 25933, 2010
kepstin
hmm. that page looks like it's supposed to be in alphabetical order, eh.
I can't seem to figure out how to get the coverart.py plugin to do anything. Ubuntu 10.4 Lynx, Picard 0.12, coverart.py 0.12 installed in ~/.config/MusicBrainz/Picard/plugins/ (even tried `chmod +x` the coverart.py and coverart.pyc).. I've restarted Picard after installing the plugin. I still never get anything but the generic CD where the album art would be in the UI?
2010-09-16 25906, 2010
tkooda
..clicking on the generic CD image in the bottom right of the UI opens up a browser page that has the cover art.. I can't seem to drag+drop, or come up with any other way to get the album art to be downloaded?
2010-09-16 25916, 2010
tkooda
what am I doing wrong?
2010-09-16 25945, 2010
tkooda
I've searched the forums, and the Wiki.. found two bug tickets for the coverart.py that weren't any help
2010-09-16 25952, 2010
tkooda
clicking "Save" button after I've identified the tracks does update my ID3 tags in my mp3's... just no cover art embedded? -my Options->Cover Art prefs are set to "Embed cover images into tags".. I presume it would if the plugin was able to download them??
I see it listed in the Options -> Plugins area.. but double clicking on it or right-clicking on it does nothing.. it says the Name, Version, and Author(s) of the plugin (suggesting it sees and is able to parse the plugin).. I don't see any way for me to "activate" it though??
2010-09-16 25919, 2010
Mineo
there's a checkbox in front of the name
2010-09-16 25932, 2010
tkooda
oh christ.. heh
2010-09-16 25951, 2010
tkooda
BINGO!
2010-09-16 25958, 2010
Mineo
:)
2010-09-16 25911, 2010
tkooda
it's an almost white checkbox on an almost white background.. never would have seen that checkbox
2010-09-16 25934, 2010
tkooda
tried double and right clicking on the plugin before.. just didn't see that checkbox.
2010-09-16 25937, 2010
tkooda
works great now. thanks!
2010-09-16 25944, 2010
Mineo
well, time to change you Qt theme ;)
2010-09-16 25912, 2010
tkooda
aah.. spose yer right.. is incorrect to fault Picard for my theme. good point.
2010-09-16 25924, 2010
tkooda
thanks
2010-09-16 25929, 2010
tkooda
made my day
2010-09-16 25900, 2010
synta10 joined the channel
2010-09-16 25951, 2010
synta10
hi; I have a question about artists notability - is there any rule of thumb whether to include artists or not?
2010-09-16 25923, 2010
tkooda has left the channel
2010-09-16 25923, 2010
xlotlu
synta10: no, this is not wikipedia
2010-09-16 25956, 2010
synta10
xlotlu: great! thanks
2010-09-16 25916, 2010
xlotlu
the only rule is that the artist has to have some sort of relationship (e.g. is the release artist / performs a track etc.), otherwise it will get auto-deleted
2010-09-16 25900, 2010
leonardo joined the channel
2010-09-16 25954, 2010
aCiD2 joined the channel
2010-09-16 25903, 2010
Lademord joined the channel
2010-09-16 25901, 2010
Lademord
If I want to tag a cover of a track to the 'original' track, and the original track was both released on an album and as a single - which one should I use?
2010-09-16 25917, 2010
warp
Lademord: usually you should link to whichever was release first.
2010-09-16 25927, 2010
warp
(if they're otherwise identical)
2010-09-16 25936, 2010
Lademord
Okay
2010-09-16 25954, 2010
Lademord
It can be hard to determine sometimes if both RE's are just marked "1997" :)
2010-09-16 25920, 2010
synta10
Lademord: IMO singles usualy come out first
2010-09-16 25930, 2010
Lademord
Roger that. Singles it is unless something's clearly showing the album came out first
synta10: Thanks. I was thinking about choosing that one as well, but wanted to be sure :)
2010-09-16 25911, 2010
Lademord
Now I'm at a specific case where I'm gonna go ahead and use a compilation-track as 'original' (http://musicbrainz.org/track/27cd4941-42ad-46c7-8… ) simply because there doesn't exist any earlier version in MusicBrainz
2010-09-16 25915, 2010
warp
Lademord: that will have to do.
2010-09-16 25918, 2010
warp
:)
2010-09-16 25938, 2010
jesus2099 joined the channel
2010-09-16 25932, 2010
jesus2099
hey nikki if you're still there !
2010-09-16 25936, 2010
nikki
hi
2010-09-16 25952, 2010
jesus2099
About the duplicate slide down ISRC submission problem of yesterdays
still unresolevd... now i'm about to parse mines and I think I'll find more of them
2010-09-16 25958, 2010
jesus2099
i mean those two dupes are still unresolved
2010-09-16 25955, 2010
leonardo joined the channel
2010-09-16 25916, 2010
jesus2099
wow 38 edits for me, nikki... and it all began when i started submiting from my library borrowings (used) discs...
2010-09-16 25947, 2010
nikki
I always wanted to do that, but they charged an extortionate amount for borrowing cds ¬_¬
2010-09-16 25919, 2010
ijabz joined the channel
2010-09-16 25906, 2010
DarkerAudit joined the channel
2010-09-16 25948, 2010
nikki
hm...
2010-09-16 25957, 2010
nikki
I don't know how else to get isrcs
2010-09-16 25924, 2010
jesus2099
i have this "Tau Analyzer" and "media_info" which get the real ISRC
2010-09-16 25938, 2010
jesus2099
for these cases
2010-09-16 25920, 2010
nikki
are they windows programs?
2010-09-16 25924, 2010
jesus2099
or you can try to (eject / re-scan) them over and over until you get something better
2010-09-16 25935, 2010
jesus2099
media_info: yes
2010-09-16 25906, 2010
jesus2099
Tau analyzer: oh yes also
2010-09-16 25915, 2010
nikki
not much use for me then :)
2010-09-16 25910, 2010
jesus2099
bad libidibidic.... it would be nice if this library that reads the ISRC would be fixed with paranoïac re-(re-re-re-)scanning-raw-sector-reading-code-until-it's-sure like those two programs.. but i don't know anything about the provenance of libidibidic (used by isrcsubmit)
