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      • kepstin notes that “album shuffle” doesn't really make sense when one’s music collection has more singles than albums :)
      • 2011-01-02 00259, 2011

      • kepstin
        particularly when half of those singles have karaoke tracks stuck on the end of them which are typically fairly boring to listen to.
      • 2011-01-02 00244, 2011

      • kepstin
        hmm. they way these japanese artists put out singles, it would almost make more sense to have an "album from single(s)" relation than a "single from album"
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      • kepstin
        what in the world is a "granulated cello"?
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      • kepstin
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      • alastairp
        based on the name and other isntruments on the track I'd guess something to do with granular synthesis
      • 2011-01-02 00222, 2011

      • kasi
        is there a trick to get the amazon plugin working? I copied it into the right directory and clicked onto it to enable it, but it doesn't show up in the context menu when I right click a song in the list.
      • 2011-01-02 00209, 2011

      • kepstin
        man, this album is full of odd instrument credits
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      • kepstin
        track 3 has an "8-bit synthesizer"
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      • alastairp
        awwwwesome
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      • alastairp
        wait - I promise I didn't say awesome to Alanis Morissette...
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      • kepstin
        heh
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      • kepstin
        hmm. there's already an entry for bass synthesizer in the proposed instruments list.
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      • kepstin adds the new example
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      • kasi
        some plugins (amazon search, coverart) aren't working on macos. Any idea what I could have done wrong? they show up in the preferences and I enabled them as well
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      • kepstin
        hmm. I guess "All songs written by Alanis Morissette & Guy Sigsworth / Lyrics by Alanis Morissette" means that both artists get composition credits, and only Alanis gets lyrics credits.
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      • kepstin
        arg ambiguous "written" credits ;)
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      • kepstin
        heh, you know you've had fun adding ARs when a release goes from having none whatsoever, to having "x relationships not shown. View all relationships …" under each track :)
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      • CatCat
        [01:40] kepstin hmm. they way these japanese artists put out singles, it would almost make more sense to have an "album from single(s)" relation than a "single from album"
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      • CatCat have been thinking that before
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      • kepstin
        IMO, it doesn't really matter, because everything will be linked with the track/recording relations anyways.
      • 2011-01-02 00213, 2011

      • CatCat
        natta
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      • CatCat
        :)
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      • Muz
        Am I going to kick myself for trying to get MB running under Postgres 9?
      • 2011-01-02 00256, 2011

      • Muz
        Or would it just be easier to just stick with 8.x ?
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      • luks
        Milosz: hi, do you think you could find gst-puid-0.1.tar.gz somewhere?
      • 2011-01-02 00239, 2011

      • luks
        it used to be at http://files.beep-media-player.org/releases/gst-p… but the site is down
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      • ddaydj
        does archive.org have nothing after 2008?!
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      • Milosz
        luks, let me look for it
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      • Milosz
        hmm I can't access our server so that might be a problem, wait
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      • Milosz
        luks, I have to wait until our server guy shows up, I'll get back to you ok?
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      • luks
        sure, thank you
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      • wijaa
        Hello! I want to setup a database only server but CreateTables.sql doesn't match my mbdumps... How do I get the correct version of CreateTables.sql?
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      • wijaa
        What confuses me is that `git tag -l` doesn't show any tags...
      • 2011-01-02 00224, 2011

      • wijaa
        So I don't know how to checkout the latest stable live release
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      • luks
        using svn
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      • luks
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      • wijaa
        Ah, so simple. Thanks!
      • 2011-01-02 00259, 2011

      • wijaa
        http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Server_Setup : Step 2 could be a little more verbose
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      • m8ram
        happy new year to you all
      • 2011-01-02 00206, 2011

      • m8ram
        I need some advice on adding a release with 2 discs
      • 2011-01-02 00225, 2011

      • m8ram
        it is not yet in the DB and it is not yet on Freedb either
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      • m8ram
        what is the best way to create a release group with 2 discs without having to merge and so fort?
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      • luks
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      • luks
        not really nice, but it works
      • 2011-01-02 00205, 2011

      • m8ram
        thx I'll give it a try
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      • m8ram
        another question, the release group in question has the same title as a
      • 2011-01-02 00226, 2011

      • m8ram
        an album released earlier by this group
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      • m8ram
        I've seen this release referred to as "Ballades 2010" instead of just "Ballades"
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      • m8ram
        though on the album itself it is referred to as just Ballades
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      • m8ram
        should I add the year when adding the release group?
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      • luks
        I personally wouldn't
      • 2011-01-02 00202, 2011

      • m8ram
        ok I also thought I shouldn't but I wanted to know if there's a reason to amke the distinction
      • 2011-01-02 00206, 2011

      • m8ram
        thx again
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      • luks
        in the next major MB update, release groups will have a "comment" field
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      • luks
        so this kind of information can be put there
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      • m8ram
        another question, the forum topic appears to suggest that picard can be used to add releases? so far I've always done this via the web site
      • 2011-01-02 00222, 2011

      • m8ram
        how woul I go about adding it via picard?
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      • m8ram
        or is this something that is in the Windows version but not the Linux version?
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      • luks
        there is a picard plugin that can open the website form with names pre-filled based on your local files
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      • luks
        which might save you some typing
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      • rwman
        Hi all. i wonder how "Recording" may be associated with "Work". Should it be done with Advanced Realtionships?
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      • luks
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      • m8ram
        ok will try that, I found the plugin in the mean time
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      • rwman
        I cannot find answer on the wiki. is it documented somewhere?
      • 2011-01-02 00219, 2011

      • luks
        rwman: yes
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      • luks
        probably not explicitly documented, no
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      • luks
        if you can add it to the NGS page, it would be great
      • 2011-01-02 00213, 2011

      • luks
        er, the "yes" was meant to ARs
      • 2011-01-02 00239, 2011

      • rwman
        luks: ok. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Advanced_Relationships is about older (non-NGS) Relationships ?
      • 2011-01-02 00244, 2011

      • luks
        yes
      • 2011-01-02 00253, 2011

      • rwman
        luks: ok. thanks
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      • m8ram
        adding the release through the plugin appears to fail: when submitting I get a lot of errors:
      • 2011-01-02 00213, 2011

      • m8ram
        # Track 0: Track artist cannot be set to 'Deleted Artist'
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      • m8ram
        will submit a bug report later
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      • m8ram
        bye
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      • Milosz
        luks, I'm not sure if I can ever recover gst-puid.. is there something specific you need to know?
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      • Milosz
        luks, gstreamer has an OFA element these days
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      • m8ram
        hello again
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      • m8ram
        where can you register an account for the musicbrainz bug tracking system (trac)?
      • 2011-01-02 00254, 2011

      • m8ram
        there is a login screen with a recover password option but no option to register new accounts
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      • alastairp
        m8ram: what are you wanting to report a bug for?
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: are you meeting with ____ <ux person> soon?
      • 2011-01-02 00239, 2011

      • m8ram
        alastairp I was unable to add a release earlier today and I want to describe what I did
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      • m8ram
        and now I get an internal server error on submitting the ticket: 500 Internal Server Error (Submission rejected as potential spam (Maximum number of external links per post exceeded))
      • 2011-01-02 00249, 2011

      • m8ram
        how can you enter a bug report on a web site without adding the necessary links?
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: yes, we are. she just crawled out of bed and is in the shower.
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      • m8ram
        adding a multi disc release to an exisitng release group as described on http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1… failed
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      • m8ram
        so how can I best merge the newly cretaed release into the exsiting release group?
      • 2011-01-02 00234, 2011

      • m8ram
        hit merge from the new or from the existing release group?
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      • luks
        Milosz: I was mainly wondering about the packaging, since I was writing a similar plugin
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      • luks
        I ended up copying the OFA element from gst-plugins-bad and replacing the libofa specific bits
      • 2011-01-02 00240, 2011

      • Milosz
        hmm what do you mean by packaging?
      • 2011-01-02 00249, 2011

      • Milosz
        it was simply built using autotools
      • 2011-01-02 00256, 2011

      • luks
        yeah, the automake stuff
      • 2011-01-02 00259, 2011

      • Milosz
        ah
      • 2011-01-02 00208, 2011

      • Milosz
        well I'm really sorry but I think it's actually lost
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      • luks
        but I figured out there is a template project
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      • luks
        so I used that
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      • Milosz
        it must be somewhere but for the life of me I can't figure out where
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      • luks
        no problem
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      • Milosz
        ok
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      • luks
        thank you for looking for it
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      • Milosz
        no prob
      • 2011-01-02 00249, 2011

      • luks
        btw, what happened to all the players you have been working on?
      • 2011-01-02 00259, 2011

      • Milosz
        well they are still rather unfinished
      • 2011-01-02 00209, 2011

      • Milosz
        I took the base platform of the latest incarnation and wrote an MPD client
      • 2011-01-02 00212, 2011

      • Milosz
        but MPD is soooo horrible
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      • Milosz
        I was thinking of writing an own daemon using gstreamer and DBus but then realized DBus doesn't really go remote (over TCP/IP or something)
      • 2011-01-02 00220, 2011

      • Milosz
        but I developed a super-fast algorithm for type-ahead searching (like in iTunes, etc)
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      • Milosz
        basically, if you keep on typing, it creates a projection from the previous projection
      • 2011-01-02 00241, 2011

      • Milosz
        since you essentially are just adding qualifiers, not removing any
      • 2011-01-02 00250, 2011

      • Milosz
        and it does filtering in a different way than most apps
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      • Milosz
        it's on github
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      • Milosz
        there's also a PPA
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      • alastairp
        Milosz: gool. url?
      • 2011-01-02 00220, 2011

      • alastairp
        cool, too
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      • Milosz
        1 sec
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      • Milosz
        Milosz has changed the topic to: Happy New Year! | Discussion for MusicBrainz | http://musicbrainz.org | http://musicbrainz.org/reports/generated/Unlinked… | logs at http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz | GOD JUL! |
      • 2011-01-02 00214, 2011

      • Milosz
        oops