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      • hawke__
        Ah.
      • 2011-02-10 04138, 2011

      • hawke__
        caller_6: Interesting, but probably not why this wiki is so untidy. :-)
      • 2011-02-10 04105, 2011

      • Tecfan is reading http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/how-one-security-firm-tracked-anonymousand-paid-a-heavy-price.ars/ and is laughing
      • 2011-02-10 04134, 2011

      • hawke__
        Is it time to link to what we’re reading?
      • 2011-02-10 04136, 2011

      • hawke__ is reading http://www.cracked.com/article_19010_5-ways-to-avoid-your-terrible-parents-mistakes.html
      • 2011-02-10 04155, 2011

      • caller_6
        hawke_: no, if anything I think MB suffers from too many smart people butting heads
      • 2011-02-10 04101, 2011

      • Krystof
        in this kind of thing there's usually the temptation to try to represent Everything Perfectly
      • 2011-02-10 04104, 2011

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      • caller_6
        to be clear, I wasn't even following the CSG Standard discussion. I was just chiming in with a non-sequitur, or at least that was the plan.
      • 2011-02-10 04128, 2011

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      • Tecfan
        but the conclusion is: do whatever fits you best
      • 2011-02-10 04149, 2011

      • hawke__
        caller_6: There’s a bit of the “too many smart people” thing, but it seems like there’s a lot more agreement than in some projects.
      • 2011-02-10 04101, 2011

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      • Tecfan
        how can I search for catalog numbers?
      • 2011-02-10 04112, 2011

      • nikki
        advanced search for releases with catno:foo
      • 2011-02-10 04135, 2011

      • Tecfan is adding catalog numbers to his own label and searches for an available one
      • 2011-02-10 04157, 2011

      • Tecfan
        TNL sounds nice for "Tecfan Netlabel"?
      • 2011-02-10 04102, 2011

      • Tecfan
        tn is taken
      • 2011-02-10 04103, 2011

      • Tecfan
        ^^
      • 2011-02-10 04113, 2011

      • warp
        lol
      • 2011-02-10 04138, 2011

      • Tecfan
        don't be laughing
      • 2011-02-10 04132, 2011

      • warp
        will you be releasing files already tagged with mbids?
      • 2011-02-10 04122, 2011

      • Tecfan
        no
      • 2011-02-10 04124, 2011

      • Tecfan
        ^^
      • 2011-02-10 04129, 2011

      • warp
        :(
      • 2011-02-10 04130, 2011

      • nikki
        why not? :/
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • Tecfan
        well probably for future releases
      • 2011-02-10 04157, 2011

      • Tecfan
        but i'm not gonna re-upload every album with new tags
      • 2011-02-10 04124, 2011

      • Tecfan
        it's a last.fm-based label.. they are all free download, but i'm not sure if the MBID's survive last.fm's re-encoding
      • 2011-02-10 04139, 2011

      • warp
        ha
      • 2011-02-10 04140, 2011

      • warp
        ah
      • 2011-02-10 04149, 2011

      • warp
        I have no idea about last.fm either.
      • 2011-02-10 04109, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i am thinking of setting up a bandcamp page though
      • 2011-02-10 04114, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        DO IT
      • 2011-02-10 04116, 2011

      • Tecfan
        but they too re-encode?
      • 2011-02-10 04117, 2011

      • warp
        yay bandcamp
      • 2011-02-10 04122, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        Tecfan, yes, they do.
      • 2011-02-10 04126, 2011

      • warp
        Tecfan: yes, you have to give them .flac.
      • 2011-02-10 04138, 2011

      • Tecfan
        MBID's will go away?
      • 2011-02-10 04143, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        that, I don't know
      • 2011-02-10 04149, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I don't think they do
      • 2011-02-10 04102, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        though, how they translate it is beyond me.
      • 2011-02-10 04110, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        ask 'em! :), support [at bandcamp.com]
      • 2011-02-10 04119, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i believe every single album has to be transcoded from mp3 to flac though, haha
      • 2011-02-10 04136, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        yeah, don't do that
      • 2011-02-10 04140, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        that sucks, a lot.
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • hawke__
        tecfan: “taken”?
      • 2011-02-10 04101, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i want a unique letter code
      • 2011-02-10 04102, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        you don't have high quality masters that could be used to make flac's from the source?
      • 2011-02-10 04125, 2011

      • Tecfan
        VxJasonxV, once you hear the music you will see that there are no such thing as masters
      • 2011-02-10 04128, 2011

      • Tecfan
        ^^
      • 2011-02-10 04146, 2011

      • hawke__
        tecfan: You do realize that catalog numbers are used for ordering within your catalog and therefore you can use whatever you want.
      • 2011-02-10 04105, 2011

      • Tecfan
        hawke__, yes, but it's way cooler having a unique letter code
      • 2011-02-10 04108, 2011

      • Tecfan
        for google's purpose
      • 2011-02-10 04108, 2011

      • hawke__
        …and that they’re more or less obsolete these days anyway.
      • 2011-02-10 04116, 2011

      • warp
        catalog numbers are also used for search for things by sticking them into the google search box
      • 2011-02-10 04120, 2011

      • warp
        s/for/to/
      • 2011-02-10 04143, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        Tecfan, chip tunes?
      • 2011-02-10 04156, 2011

      • Tecfan has """""""""signed""""""""""" 6 new artists recently
      • 2011-02-10 04103, 2011

      • warp
        haha
      • 2011-02-10 04126, 2011

      • Tecfan
        no, more things like midi2mp3-music, soundstretching stuff, audacity-recording-mashups and weird things
      • 2011-02-10 04135, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        quality still matters, believe me...
      • 2011-02-10 04148, 2011

      • Tecfan
        yes if you make a midi2flac converter i'll happily use it
      • 2011-02-10 04153, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        :|
      • 2011-02-10 04102, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I could swear I've used midi2wav before.
      • 2011-02-10 04109, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        midi2wav -> wav2flac
      • 2011-02-10 04111, 2011

      • Tecfan
        http://www.hamienet.com/midi2mp3 uses this for the sound banks
      • 2011-02-10 04133, 2011

      • hawke__
        tecfan: timidity? :-)
      • 2011-02-10 04155, 2011

      • Tecfan
        it has sound banks?
      • 2011-02-10 04149, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i like that you get can hourly tarballs of the source
      • 2011-02-10 04151, 2011

      • Tecfan
        that was updated in 2004
      • 2011-02-10 04154, 2011

      • hawke__
        Soundfonts?
      • 2011-02-10 04125, 2011

      • Tecfan
        yeah
      • 2011-02-10 04154, 2011

      • hawke__
        Then …yes.
      • 2011-02-10 04131, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i think timidity divided by 0 now
      • 2011-02-10 04119, 2011

      • Tecfan
        meh
      • 2011-02-10 04127, 2011

      • Tecfan
        impossible to get the files out of the .tar :<
      • 2011-02-10 04112, 2011

      • Tecfan
        2. Type "make" to compile the package.
      • 2011-02-10 04120, 2011

      • Tecfan
        : D
      • 2011-02-10 04106, 2011

      • hawke__
        Why not install from binaries?
      • 2011-02-10 04114, 2011

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      • hawke__
        Rather than trying to build from source
      • 2011-02-10 04100, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i didn't download cygwin for anything
      • 2011-02-10 04102, 2011

      • Tecfan
        nothing
      • 2011-02-10 04104, 2011

      • hawke__
        Heh
      • 2011-02-10 04106, 2011

      • Tecfan
        ^^
      • 2011-02-10 04157, 2011

      • Tecfan tries again with a binary this time
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • Tecfan
        and it unzips at a blazing speed of 600kb/s
      • 2011-02-10 04129, 2011

      • luisxp
        [Fserve Active] - Trigger:[/ctcp luisxp mp3sabrosote(0/1)] - Users:[0/5] - Message:[servidor de mucha musica-comparte] - SysReset 2.55
      • 2011-02-10 04109, 2011

      • Tecfan
        not getting any sound in playback = not a good sign
      • 2011-02-10 04110, 2011

      • hawke__
        tecfan: You probably have to do something to load the soundfont into timidity
      • 2011-02-10 04125, 2011

      • hawke__
        I haven’t played with it much
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • hawke__
        so not sure how the process works, really
      • 2011-02-10 04101, 2011

      • Tecfan
        No instrument mapped to drum set 0, program 55 - this instrument will not be heard
      • 2011-02-10 04105, 2011

      • Tecfan
        looks like you're right
      • 2011-02-10 04159, 2011

      • hawke__
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      • hawke__
        Looks like you need to point it at the soundfont
      • 2011-02-10 04133, 2011

      • Tecfan
        there was no config file at all..
      • 2011-02-10 04138, 2011

      • Tecfan
        made it now, but it's empty..
      • 2011-02-10 04112, 2011

      • hawke__
        Well, yeah—you need to put stuff in it. :-)
      • 2011-02-10 04117, 2011

      • Tecfan
        great..
      • 2011-02-10 04118, 2011

      • hawke__
        you put:
      • 2011-02-10 04133, 2011

      • hawke__
        dir path/to/timidity/install
      • 2011-02-10 04154, 2011

      • hawke__
        soundfont soundfontfilename.sf2
      • 2011-02-10 04107, 2011

      • hawke__
        enclosing quotes if the sf has spaces
      • 2011-02-10 04135, 2011

      • hawke__
        it pretty well describes it at that #Hear page I linked to above
      • 2011-02-10 04140, 2011

      • Tecfan
        yeah i'm reading
      • 2011-02-10 04147, 2011

      • Tecfan
        just gotta find that perfect soundfount..
      • 2011-02-10 04158, 2011

      • hawke__
        Heh
      • 2011-02-10 04103, 2011

      • Tecfan
        do you know if it supports .sfark?
      • 2011-02-10 04101, 2011

      • hawke__
        You need to decompress the sfark to sf first
      • 2011-02-10 04106, 2011

      • hawke__
        or sf2 or whatever
      • 2011-02-10 04100, 2011

      • hawke__
        So I guess that would be a “no”
      • 2011-02-10 04108, 2011

      • hawke__
        but with a workaround. :-)
      • 2011-02-10 04116, 2011

      • Tecfan
        hehe
      • 2011-02-10 04141, 2011

      • Tecfan
        awww
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • Tecfan
        still not sound :(
      • 2011-02-10 04115, 2011

      • hawke__
        Any errors?
      • 2011-02-10 04151, 2011

      • Tecfan
        undefined and not mapped instruments
      • 2011-02-10 04147, 2011

      • hawke__
        Anything about problems loading the soundfont?
      • 2011-02-10 04133, 2011

      • Tecfan
        nothing
      • 2011-02-10 04158, 2011

      • hawke__
        hm.
      • 2011-02-10 04103, 2011

      • hawke__
        Mind sending me the midi files?
      • 2011-02-10 04121, 2011

      • Tecfan
        ok, 2sec
      • 2011-02-10 04114, 2011

      • Tecfan
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      • hawke__
        It plays for me, but missing some instruments
      • 2011-02-10 04110, 2011

      • hawke__
        or at least, “an” instrument.
      • 2011-02-10 04106, 2011

      • Tecfan
        hmm ok
      • 2011-02-10 04113, 2011

      • hawke__
        Not sure what samples it’s using.
      • 2011-02-10 04118, 2011

      • hawke__
        probably the freepats set
      • 2011-02-10 04119, 2011

      • Tecfan
        can i get your sf2 file?
      • 2011-02-10 04132, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i downloaded one off a dodgy website ;>
      • 2011-02-10 04139, 2011

      • hawke__
        heh
      • 2011-02-10 04144, 2011

      • hawke__
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      • Tecfan
        30kb/s :(
      • 2011-02-10 04135, 2011

      • Tecfan
        start your apache :>
      • 2011-02-10 04150, 2011

      • hawke__
        I’ve never used timidity on Windows, so that faq page is about all I have.
      • 2011-02-10 04154, 2011

      • Tecfan
        you want to hear how it sounds like with the midi2mp3 online converter?
      • 2011-02-10 04150, 2011

      • hawke__
        Sure.
      • 2011-02-10 04159, 2011

      • Tecfan
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      • hawke__
        What’d you use for the original?
      • 2011-02-10 04116, 2011

      • Tecfan
        to actually make the midi file, you mean?
      • 2011-02-10 04155, 2011

      • hawke__
        Nah, the one on last.fm.
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      • Tecfan
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      • hawke__
        Fluid R3.
      • 2011-02-10 04142, 2011

      • Tecfan
        i see that midi2mp3 actually supports wav :P
      • 2011-02-10 04146, 2011

      • Tecfan mehs