foo_musicbrainz yes. i’m very grateful to puid+mb because it has answered the « what is this song i found on that unlabelled CD-R » a few times... and it is only useful if we submit puids
2011-05-18 13811, 2011
jesus2099
you know homemade compilations given by frinds saying « hey you should check this out »
2011-05-18 13840, 2011
jesus2099
it’s incredibly great when you can find them thanks to that puid thing
2011-05-18 13853, 2011
luks
ok
2011-05-18 13817, 2011
luks
now to answer the Picard, question I don't know
2011-05-18 13825, 2011
nikki
hm.
2011-05-18 13826, 2011
luks
I don't know what have you changed
2011-05-18 13829, 2011
jesus2099
then mbid now. i don’t see the use in them, that’s true. it only breaks up the lastfm scrobbling
2011-05-18 13838, 2011
nikki
can you change the server thing if you run it uncompiled?
2011-05-18 13840, 2011
luks
but from what I know, Picard should be able to submit PUIDs
2011-05-18 13857, 2011
luks
I really don't know what jesus2099 changed...
2011-05-18 13821, 2011
jesus2099
I’m trying again
2011-05-18 13830, 2011
luks
but what are you trying again? :)
2011-05-18 13816, 2011
alex-hu
nikki: yes, I meant how do I enter it in musicbrainz -- namely there appears to be nothing in the documentation concerning non-numeric track names
So, just go with numeric ones, and track *name* "A1. First Mesa"?
2011-05-18 13822, 2011
reosarevok
No
2011-05-18 13825, 2011
jesus2099
this I try on ngs.musicbrainz.org : client=MusicBrainz Picard-0.13&puid=94204708-951e-4e48-b863-33b256a20048%205b32cec2-2e8c-057d-786e-573a9ad4ec16
2011-05-18 13826, 2011
reosarevok
Track name just First Mesa
2011-05-18 13839, 2011
alex-hu
Ok, I see. Thank you.
2011-05-18 13840, 2011
reosarevok
(and add an annotation, maybe, saying "Track X is B1"
2011-05-18 13855, 2011
reosarevok
so it is easier to fix when we support vinyl numbering :) )
2011-05-18 13819, 2011
alex-hu
In what tag to add annotation to?
2011-05-18 13831, 2011
alex-hu uses picard
2011-05-18 13841, 2011
luks
jesus2099: I can't find that recording in the database
2011-05-18 13839, 2011
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reosarevok
alex-hu: inside MusicBrainz itself
2011-05-18 13846, 2011
jesus2099_
maybe it doesn’t work in the end because although having rerouted request from mb to ngs.mb, here is what I see in the (OK) anthentification part Authorization: Digest username="jesus2099", realm="musicbrainz.org", nonce="stuff", uri="http://musicbrainz.org/ws/1/track/", opaque="stuff", response="stuff", algorithm=MD5, qop=auth, nc=00000003, cnonce="stuff"
2011-05-18 13802, 2011
jesus2099_
realm and uri
2011-05-18 13804, 2011
reosarevok
(go to the release, press "Add annotation"
2011-05-18 13805, 2011
reosarevok
)
2011-05-18 13835, 2011
luks
I don't think you are listening to me :)
2011-05-18 13851, 2011
luks
1) that MBID doesn't exist in the MB database
2011-05-18 13855, 2011
luks
2) what exactly have you changed?
2011-05-18 13840, 2011
jesus2099_
oh sorry i get disconnected all the time it doesn’t help :/
2011-05-18 13843, 2011
jesus2099_
mbid 94204708-951e-4e48-b863-33b256a20048
2011-05-18 13834, 2011
luks
hm, now I don't know what I was checking
2011-05-18 13816, 2011
jesus2099_
luks: this ? client=MusicBrainz Picard-0.13&puid=94204708-951e-4e48-b863-33b256a20048%205b32cec2-2e8c-057d-786e-573a9ad4ec16
2011-05-18 13844, 2011
jesus2099_
remove the %20 and it says MBID 94204708-951e-4e48-b863-33b256a20048 has PUID 5b32cec2-2e8c-057d-786e-573a9ad4ec16
2011-05-18 13852, 2011
luks
yeah
2011-05-18 13801, 2011
luks
I probably copied something different, sorry
2011-05-18 13815, 2011
jesus2099_
np
2011-05-18 13826, 2011
luks
so what exactly have you changed?
2011-05-18 13838, 2011
jesus2099_
what I changed ? well just the Host in requests
2011-05-18 13802, 2011
luks
how?
2011-05-18 13855, 2011
reosarevok
Does merging works add the merged titles as aliases?
yeah, just wanted to make sure I was doing it right
2011-05-18 13802, 2011
warp
reosarevok: yes, RFV it.
2011-05-18 13828, 2011
reosarevok
warp: done
2011-05-18 13847, 2011
Mineo
reosarevok: I agree with you on this one, but considering half the world is probably asleep right now, I don't think it's a good idea to establish "no dislike in 2h, rfv it!" as a common practice :)
2011-05-18 13837, 2011
reosarevok
Mineo: I don't mean it as common practice, but I think (no dislike + 6 like + 2 days of RFV) = enough
2011-05-18 13834, 2011
reosarevok
After all, it's not challenging a previous style decision, as we didn't have works before :)
2011-05-18 13839, 2011
Mineo
oh, I don't want to object or anything, just had 0,02€ lying around
Now using WFetch (same results than modified requests in fiddler) after authenticate it’s error 400 bad request ...
2011-05-18 13837, 2011
luks
there were some compatibility issues with the HTTP Auth, so it might be that WFetch can do it correctly
2011-05-18 13835, 2011
jesus2099
I use digest method to athenticate (all other leave me on the 401 error without sending info, don’t know why) but actually the result with digest is the same wether I input OK or NG password ...
2011-05-18 13844, 2011
jesus2099
the other available auth methods are Anonymous, Basic, NTLM, Kerberos, Digest, Negociate
2011-05-18 13813, 2011
jesus2099
now HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden ... maybe it’s better
2011-05-18 13849, 2011
warp
reosarevok: the point of an RFV is for people who do not generally follow the style process to have a last chance of veto-ing a bad proposal.
2011-05-18 13839, 2011
warp
reosarevok: as such, it is better to include all the details of the proposal and not have readers try to dig up what exactly is being proposed elsewhere.
2011-05-18 13856, 2011
reosarevok
warp: I included the original post
2011-05-18 13846, 2011
jesus2099
luks: now I used a POST form in Opera and the authentification gets looping, trying another browser…
warp: "It seems pretty obvious: Wikipedia has a lot of pages about songs
2011-05-18 13804, 2011
reosarevok
that should really be linked on Work level." was murdos ' mail (ok, it included "Any objections" or the like)
2011-05-18 13819, 2011
warp
reosarevok: that sentence is a hardly a full proposal.
2011-05-18 13804, 2011
reosarevok
warp: that's all there is. It is as much of a proposal as my "add spoken to the vocal tree" a while ago: doesn't seem useful to make a wiki proposal for something that small
2011-05-18 13803, 2011
warp
it doesn't have to be a wiki, but atleast include the link phrases.
2011-05-18 13824, 2011
warp
they may be identical to whatever we have now for recordings, but I'm not that familiar with relationships in general, so I don't know any of that stuff.
2011-05-18 13847, 2011
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2011-05-18 13833, 2011
reosarevok
warp: mail sent
2011-05-18 13843, 2011
reosarevok
(well, sending)
2011-05-18 13800, 2011
kepstin finally got around to actually sending an email to the list about his official homepage for releases proposal...
2011-05-18 13832, 2011
kepstin
I been wanting that for about a year now, but kept forgetting to actually go and propose it ;)
2011-05-18 13804, 2011
warp
reosarevok: thanks!
2011-05-18 13827, 2011
reosarevok
warp: that good enough?
2011-05-18 13837, 2011
reosarevok
kepstin: replied there, but "homepage" doesn't seem the best wording
2011-05-18 13830, 2011
kepstin
hmm.
2011-05-18 13800, 2011
kepstin
I think I'd actually prefer it if the entire relation was renamed to "official website" - the term "homepage" seems to have fallen into disuse nowadays
2011-05-18 13835, 2011
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2011-05-18 13844, 2011
kepstin
so I guess there's a few options: 1. leave the relation name as is, add it to releases+release groups and live with the funny wording; 2. add a new different relation type for this; 3. rename the existing relation (or just use different linking text for releases/release groups?)
2011-05-18 13808, 2011
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2011-05-18 13829, 2011
jesus2099 likes “homepage”
2011-05-18 13808, 2011
luks
I think the release websites are fairly short-lived
2011-05-18 13816, 2011
luks
we will have a lot of dead links :(
2011-05-18 13828, 2011
ocharles
luks: warp wants to keep dead links
2011-05-18 13846, 2011
luks
to direct users to porn sites? :)
2011-05-18 13811, 2011
luks has seen a particularly nasty one on MB recently
2011-05-18 13816, 2011
ocharles
maybe I should read back scroll :P
2011-05-18 13825, 2011
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2011-05-18 13831, 2011
ocharles
well he argues it's still interesting data
2011-05-18 13832, 2011
jesus2099
luks: labels’ release pages are loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong lasting
2011-05-18 13850, 2011
jesus2099
almost permalinks
2011-05-18 13805, 2011
jesus2099
for a few major labels I have in mind
2011-05-18 13811, 2011
luks
oh, I thought we are talking about those mini-sites that are specific to a single release
