v6lur: that looks like some bug I've seen people complain about in windows where for some reason the drive or something reads the same isrc twice
2011-06-27 17809, 2011
Shepard
du kennst aber den künstler nicht. hm, dann sollte die CD auch nicht in musicbrainz rein, da wir sonst dort nicht viel damit anfangen können. wir wollen hier halt korrekte daten haben.
2011-06-27 17845, 2011
derwin
ah so, er kennt nicht die kunstler! das habe ich FAST verstehen.
2011-06-27 17845, 2011
Shepard
es gibt allerdings die möglichkeit, einen "cd stub" hinzuzufügen. das ist wahrscheinlich genau für deinen anwendungsfall gedacht
2011-06-27 17857, 2011
Shepard
mit dem feature kenne ich mich allerdings leider nicht so gut aus
2011-06-27 17852, 2011
v6lur
nikki: i was just wondering if he's aware of it
2011-06-27 17851, 2011
Shepard
(dein anwendungsfall soll meinen: du willst wahrscheinlich nur deine CD rippen oder so, die korrekten daten in der datenbank sind erstmal egal)
2011-06-27 17803, 2011
HeinzBoettjer
Shepard: Über freeDB kommt als Künstler "music for wellness" aber das ist der Titel für die Sammlung von 5 CDs und nicht der artist.
If shortly is this month I can wait until weekend to update and retry
2011-06-27 17807, 2011
bitmap
shortly is today :)
2011-06-27 17830, 2011
bitmap
you'll just have to wait for the daily build to update I guess
2011-06-27 17852, 2011
HeinzBoettjer
here is near 10 pm so I am a little bit tired so I am update and try tomorrow
2011-06-27 17842, 2011
bitmap
okay
2011-06-27 17856, 2011
bitmap
hmm, that bug doesn't make sense actually
2011-06-27 17813, 2011
bitmap
there should always be a <label-info-list>
2011-06-27 17802, 2011
hawke_ joined the channel
2011-06-27 17810, 2011
bitmap
oh I see, my merge was incomplete and I forgot to include some changes
2011-06-27 17814, 2011
bitmap
now it's fixed. :)
2011-06-27 17827, 2011
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2011-06-27 17851, 2011
hrglgrmpf
does anybody know how often bbc updates the information from musicbrainz? They paid for the live-feed, didn't they?
2011-06-27 17803, 2011
hrglgrmpf
Or is the connection broken with the NGS release?
2011-06-27 17825, 2011
ianmcorvidae
I don't know if they've gotten themselves situated to deal with NGS, although I thought they were
2011-06-27 17849, 2011
hrglgrmpf
(I hope/think MB send a notice with test server URL to BBC as a paying custumer, that things are going to break)
2011-06-27 17827, 2011
hrglgrmpf
ianmcorvidae: it doesn't seem like it
2011-06-27 17841, 2011
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2011-06-27 17847, 2011
ianmcorvidae
I know that they knew about NGS and were working on it
2011-06-27 17800, 2011
ianmcorvidae
I don't know that they finished or updated their production system
2011-06-27 17812, 2011
luks
I don't think they are running NGS yet
2011-06-27 17809, 2011
hawke_
v6lur: I don’t believe “my” isrc-reading script is buggy, but it’s possible. It’s not mine anyway, but…
2011-06-27 17847, 2011
JoeLlama joined the channel
2011-06-27 17802, 2011
ianmcorvidae
hawke_: which one do you use?
2011-06-27 17833, 2011
ianmcorvidae
more generally: what ISRC-submission scripts do folks recommend?
2011-06-27 17857, 2011
kepstin-laptop recommends using EAC to read ISRCs
2011-06-27 17859, 2011
hawke_
ianmcorvidae: I used the isrc-cdrdao script
2011-06-27 17819, 2011
hawke_
Because icedax is notoriously terrible at even reading the ISRCs in the first place
2011-06-27 17820, 2011
hrglgrmpf
ianmcorvidae: I'm using a python script by Johannes Dewender ( brainz at JonnyJD.net )
2011-06-27 17856, 2011
ianmcorvidae
heh, EAC
2011-06-27 17802, 2011
kepstin-laptop
I'm working on a web interface to make sending isrcs to musicbrainz easier, one of the things I'm hoping to do with it is to allow pasting EAC-style .cue files with ISRCs.
2011-06-27 17806, 2011
ianmcorvidae
not even gonna try for that one, I'd have to put it through too many layers
2011-06-27 17807, 2011
hawke_
I use the one by Mineo.
2011-06-27 17826, 2011
hawke_
I question the point of submitting ISRCs at all, but …
2011-06-27 17829, 2011
kepstin-laptop runs an old version of EAC in wine :)
2011-06-27 17834, 2011
hrglgrmpf
hawke_: the script I'm using uses icedax, but I found it better working than cdrdao... (cdrdao gave me wrong isrcs on one release, so I skipped it)
2011-06-27 17836, 2011
ianmcorvidae
eh, it's data
2011-06-27 17843, 2011
Mineo uses the one by Mineo, too :)
2011-06-27 17847, 2011
ianmcorvidae
haha
2011-06-27 17824, 2011
hawke_
hrglgrmpf: icedax gives wrong and actually invalid ISRCs a lot. Though it seems to depend on the drive.
2011-06-27 17831, 2011
Mineo
it even works with multi-disc releases!:o
2011-06-27 17832, 2011
nikki
Mineo: good to know ;) it'd be worrying otherwise
2011-06-27 17843, 2011
nikki
(that you use your own script)
2011-06-27 17846, 2011
hawke_
(So maybe you’re lucky and have a drive that plays nicely with icedax)
2011-06-27 17803, 2011
kepstin-laptop
I should try cdrdao on the CDs I have with isrc, see how it compares with EAC in accuracy.
2011-06-27 17814, 2011
kepstin-laptop
(I have a few different drives I can try, too)
2011-06-27 17856, 2011
ojnkpjg
icedax output is crap even with my plextor premium drives
2011-06-27 17810, 2011
hawke_
ianmcorvidae: “eh, it’s data” doesn’t seem like a good reason, if: 1. the data is inaccurate (bad mastering, bad CD reading) and 2. the data is useless (nothing to crossreference against)
2011-06-27 17810, 2011
ojnkpjg
is the cdrdao isrc reading code different from icedax's?
2011-06-27 17818, 2011
ojnkpjg
for some reason, i thought they were using the same code
2011-06-27 17825, 2011
ojnkpjg
but i might be remembering wrong
2011-06-27 17845, 2011
hawke_
ojnkpjg: cdrdao works much better on my drive(s) than icedax, for what that’s worth.
2011-06-27 17801, 2011
nikki
I seem to recall using cdrdao too, icedax has never worked for me
2011-06-27 17815, 2011
ianmcorvidae
on this random disc I'm testing they returned the same thing
2011-06-27 17813, 2011
kepstin-laptop
the main thing i've found the isrcs useful for is crossreferencing between different CDs
2011-06-27 17828, 2011
kepstin-laptop
provides an easy way to tell if two cds have the same or different recording
2011-06-27 17817, 2011
kepstin-laptop recently found a compilation where the isrc on the disc was different from the one for the recording it was linked to in musicbrainz
