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      • evaded
        ruaok: i don't know how to import the files maybe you could help me
      • 2011-07-18 19921, 2011

      • ruaok
        which instructions are you following?
      • 2011-07-18 19934, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: the one from the site.
      • 2011-07-18 19954, 2011

      • ruaok
        link plz.
      • 2011-07-18 19901, 2011

      • ruaok
        your statement is ambigous.
      • 2011-07-18 19906, 2011

      • evaded
      • 2011-07-18 19926, 2011

      • ruaok
        that document is outdated.
      • 2011-07-18 19933, 2011

      • nikki would suggest reading the first line of the page
      • 2011-07-18 19939, 2011

      • ruaok
      • 2011-07-18 19917, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: ok thanks ill check.
      • 2011-07-18 19939, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: btw can this method run in windows?
      • 2011-07-18 19958, 2011

      • ruaok
        yes, virtual box is available for windows
      • 2011-07-18 19938, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: thanks
      • 2011-07-18 19953, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: my purpose is to use the database offline can this work?
      • 2011-07-18 19917, 2011

      • ruaok
        depends on how you intend to use the database.
      • 2011-07-18 19927, 2011

      • ruaok
        if you're going to point picard at it, it will not work.
      • 2011-07-18 19935, 2011

      • ruaok
        if you want to query the DB directly, it will work.
      • 2011-07-18 19903, 2011

      • evaded
        so, what program should i use to do that?
      • 2011-07-18 19913, 2011

      • evaded
        sorry im just new here.
      • 2011-07-18 19919, 2011

      • ruaok
        to do what?
      • 2011-07-18 19942, 2011

      • evaded
        ok
      • 2011-07-18 19950, 2011

      • evaded
        ok, im just gonna download the files and try it.thanks
      • 2011-07-18 19949, 2011

      • ruaok
        try WHAT?
      • 2011-07-18 19913, 2011

      • ruaok
        its not likey going to work, but you can find that out yourself.
      • 2011-07-18 19900, 2011

      • evaded
        what do you mean?
      • 2011-07-18 19925, 2011

      • ruaok
        if you could actually tell us what you're trying to do, we might be able to help.
      • 2011-07-18 19947, 2011

      • ruaok
        but if you tell us fragments of information we can only guess as to what you might be trying to do.
      • 2011-07-18 19907, 2011

      • hawke_
        Grr, the release editor fails badly when artists arent’t found. :-( http://musicbrainz.org/release/9638227b-981e-4bba…
      • 2011-07-18 19942, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: want to use this as an offline database to edit my music because i don't have a constant internet connection.
      • 2011-07-18 19954, 2011

      • ruaok
        which tool do yo plan to use?
      • 2011-07-18 19924, 2011

      • evaded
        ruaok: im planning to use either picard or magictag
      • 2011-07-18 19936, 2011

      • ruaok
        then no, it will not work.
      • 2011-07-18 19954, 2011

      • ruaok
        you need to install a search server as well, and we dont have that in VM yet.
      • 2011-07-18 19919, 2011

      • evaded
        but in linux?
      • 2011-07-18 19947, 2011

      • ruaok
        we dont have that packaged for any os.
      • 2011-07-18 19918, 2011

      • evaded
        ok.
      • 2011-07-18 19959, 2011

      • evaded
        thank you for the infos.
      • 2011-07-18 19913, 2011

      • ruaok
        np. sorry we dont have a complete solution yet.
      • 2011-07-18 19902, 2011

      • evaded
        so, are you working on the search server?
      • 2011-07-18 19944, 2011

      • ruaok
        not currently, no.
      • 2011-07-18 19955, 2011

      • evaded
        ok, thank you for your time.
      • 2011-07-18 19918, 2011

      • CatCat
        [18:25] luks I think that leaving it empty is better than having a questionable "Other" option
      • 2011-07-18 19931, 2011

      • CatCat notes that luks is WRONG for once
      • 2011-07-18 19933, 2011

      • CatCat
        :o
      • 2011-07-18 19956, 2011

      • nikki
        he didn't state a fact, so that's debatable :P
      • 2011-07-18 19909, 2011

      • ruaok
      • 2011-07-18 19936, 2011

      • nikki thinks the other type is getting more misuse than valid use and can certainly see why luks would think that
      • 2011-07-18 19907, 2011

      • hawke_
        nikki: How is it being misused?
      • 2011-07-18 19927, 2011

      • v6lur
        *grumble* it would be nice if releasing a new version of picard also meant updating its translations at launchpad... *grumble*
      • 2011-07-18 19901, 2011

      • reosarevok
        hawke_: being used for people who identify as male / female, because they're transgender and that's "weird"
      • 2011-07-18 19942, 2011

      • nikki
        also randomly for no obvious reason
      • 2011-07-18 19900, 2011

      • nikki
        I think some of them are groups and the editors just don't bother selecting group
      • 2011-07-18 19908, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, normally it's hard to know, because of course they don't leave edit notes
      • 2011-07-18 19909, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2011-07-18 19921, 2011

      • nikki
        (they could select group instead of gender, but that would be *logical*)
      • 2011-07-18 19901, 2011

      • hawke_
        I can kind of understand it for the transgender ones: Not “male” because some people consider them female, not “female” because they consider themselves male. (or vice-versa of course, but just for argument’s sake)
      • 2011-07-18 19947, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Except the guideline says "use whatever the artist identifies with"
      • 2011-07-18 19947, 2011

      • CatCat
        ...
      • 2011-07-18 19901, 2011

      • CatCat would "identify" as "other"
      • 2011-07-18 19914, 2011

      • CatCat
        ...
      • 2011-07-18 19925, 2011

      • reosarevok
        CatCat: we know, given that you are one of the few entities set to other :p
      • 2011-07-18 19931, 2011

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      • hawke_
        reosarevok: Where’s that guideline? It’s not in help in the artist editor and I don’t see it at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Artist
      • 2011-07-18 19951, 2011

      • reosarevok doesn't remember
      • 2011-07-18 19956, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But nikki showed me some day
      • 2011-07-18 19904, 2011

      • hawke_
        Ah, found it
      • 2011-07-18 19920, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Where was it?
      • 2011-07-18 19928, 2011

      • nikki
        style/artist
      • 2011-07-18 19935, 2011

      • hawke_
      • 2011-07-18 19935, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok
      • 2011-07-18 19956, 2011

      • hawke_
        Still, it’s not linked from the artist help — and one “obvious” doc page doesn’t say.
      • 2011-07-18 19909, 2011

      • hawke_
        I doubt people are going much out of their way to read the docs
      • 2011-07-18 19925, 2011

      • hawke_
        and even if they go a bit out, it’s not obvious so I can understand making that mistake
      • 2011-07-18 19900, 2011

      • nikki
        the ones I've pointed it out to haven't responded, so I guess they're unlikely to read anything
      • 2011-07-18 19909, 2011

      • nikki
        (if they can't even read an email)
      • 2011-07-18 19937, 2011

      • hawke_
        hehe
      • 2011-07-18 19941, 2011

      • MBChatLogger
      • 2011-07-18 19941, 2011

      • CatCat
        loi.. almost lol, test.mb.org gives m 502 gateway is bad error
      • 2011-07-18 19934, 2011

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      • ruaok
        anyone awake?
      • 2011-07-18 19940, 2011

      • reosarevok is
      • 2011-07-18 19947, 2011

      • reosarevok
        For not too long though
      • 2011-07-18 19928, 2011

      • ruaok
        I just pushed the search fix live.
      • 2011-07-18 19933, 2011

      • ruaok
        santiy check plz?
      • 2011-07-18 19906, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Appears to work
      • 2011-07-18 19918, 2011

      • reosarevok
        What didn't work before for me does now
      • 2011-07-18 19919, 2011

      • ruaok
        yeah.
      • 2011-07-18 19921, 2011

      • ruaok
        thanks.
      • 2011-07-18 19930, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Although it was nikki and ianmcorvidae who did most checks
      • 2011-07-18 19937, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Is ian still around?
      • 2011-07-18 19944, 2011

      • ruaok
        well, the things that I saw were broken are much better now.
      • 2011-07-18 19950, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, definitely