#musicbrainz

I have a question about the capabilities of MusicBrainz.

And the question is? :)

Haha, sorry.

I know that MusicBrainz uses audio fingerprinting to tag music from a database. My question is, based on the metadata/tagged information, does MusicBrainz have the ability to rename a file automatically as well?

Picard does

And if it can, is there a template I can specify for all songs to follow?

guessmynickname: yep.

http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard is where you get the tagging application from which supports this.

It can? So based on the tag information, I could have all songs follow a "# - Song" format and be correctly identified under the correct artist --> album folder?

correct

that's actually almost the default setting

LOL! Oh! (Obviously, I haven't even started using the program, haha.)

you should :)

the default version doesn't include the dash, but you get Artist/Album/01 Song

Lastly, if some songs I have are tagged incorrectly, or not in the format that I want, will Picard delete the metadata and standardize all of my songs?

guessmynickname: yes.

@Luks: That's fine, haha.

guessmynickname: you *can* easily add the dash though :)

Oh really? I'd prefer to actually add the dash, haha. I didn't know this program was THAT customizable. ;o I'm a decent computer user; would you say that'd be easy to figure out how to do that once I start using Picard?

I imagine it's documented somewhere…

guessmynickname: it shouldn't be too hard. There's a lot of settings that you can tweak in the preferences, and the website has links to some guides.

you can just ask here if you can't figure it out :)

Awesomesauce!

But yeah, the program is relatively simple to use. The naming scheme can get complicated and use lots of variables and stuff, but I've had no problems using it without understanding any of them :)

Okay, thanks sooooooooooo much guys. I'm heard good things about this program (and yeah, I probably should have figure out some stuff for my own - haha), and can't wait to use it!

If I run into any trouble, I'll be back here and ask for help. And m y goodness, you guys are very quick to help -- and knowledgable! (:

one thing to remember - Musicbrainz is a user-edited database, and the tags you get from picard is only as good as the data people put in. If you see any problems, or missing releases, please fix them on the website.

^ Yeah, I realize that about the program. And I'll be sure to help the database just in case any songs aren't there.

Bye guys! And again, thanks for the help. :D

Hello all, a hopefully quick question, Can you tell me the process for suggesting an addition to the URL types for a Work?

rphill: well, it's not a very quick answer, unfortunately.

heh

welcome to mb-style ;)

I've just discovered that a Work doesn't have an "Official Website" URL Type

to add a new URL relationship requires making an RFC proposal on the musicbrainz-style mailing list

I did wonder if it had to go to the Style mailing list...

which needs at least 2 weeks of review and unanimous approval from the style council

Hmmm

Official website for works?

Any examples?

hmm. I was actually working on an "official website" url for release groups.

Consider an "Aggregate Work", my favorite of the moment, Evita

but I'm really not sure what use it would be for works...

hmm. well, you're probably not going to get such an AR proposal passed on the strength of links to only one site :/ You should try to find a few different examples linking to different sites, ideally for different types of works if you can.

I'm guessing most of the examples are likely to be Musicals, or Films, although I guess there might be some "Official" Websites for Symphonies and the like...

what we really need is rdfs:seeAlso :P

Another alternative would be just a simple "related to"

^ and that's the normal-person way of saying what I did :P

ianmcorvidae: Sorry I only discovered the IRC this week so rdfs doesn't mean much to me..

rphill: don't worry about it, I'm just making a semantic-web joke :)

... which unless nikki is here possibly only I get

no problem

don't worry, I got it too.

In terms of putting it (in some form) to the style mailing list, can anyone do it, and does it need to be in any particular format?

Anyone can do it, but there's a little bit of format work to be done. Since all ARs are documented on the musicbrainz wiki, you should make up a wiki page (under your user page) containing the AR documentation. There's some annoying template things to deal with, I hate working with them :(

rphill: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Kepstin/Offici... is one that I'm working on right now, it's rather similar ;)

hmm. actually, I think I can put out an RFV for that now.

I thought you had done that already :/

It does seem quite similiar.. Shame that your Entity needs to have "publicly endorsed" the site, as other wise, Work has an official homepage would have fitted quite well...

rphill: well, that's what "official" means :)

This is actually a modification of the original http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Official_Homepage_R... - I'm only adding a little bit to it

Yes, but in the context of a Work, it would be the creators of the work, rather than the work itself making it offical

hmm. I suppose the same is rather true of release groups.

maybe I should update that wording a bit :/

I'm guessing there is some form of review stage required before an RFC number is issued...

rphill: nope. you grab an RFC number by editing a wiki page and adding a row to a table :)

OK.

reosarevok here usually doesn't even bother with numbers, he just puts random stuff there :P

reosarevok: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposals#Next_New_... says "335" :)

kepstin-laptop: ok, I meant as in "keeping account of what number is what"

heh

(which is the only use of giving them numbers)

Any of the experimentally/electronically-minded people here can speak well of any of these? Awesome Tapes from Africa (US), Fauna (AR), Gangpol & Mit (FR), Hype Williams (UK/EE), Natalia Beridze (GE), Elektro Guzzi (AT), Dunian (LV), Oyaarss (LV), Mujuice (RU), Brokenchord (LT), Raime (UK).

Svarte Greiner (NO), Kevin Drumm (US), Skull Defekts & Tommi Karkonen (SE/FI), Thomas Ankersmit (NL), Kammerflimmer Kolektieff (DE), Angel (IS, DE, FI), Wildbirds & Peacedrums (SE).

well, that page has tables where you're supposed to add them. Looks like most are there.

kepstin-laptop: try to edit that page to do so… IIRC it's full of BF-templating

reosarevok: I have edited that page to do so :)

wonder if ocharles ever did more work on that style proposal tracker he said he was doing

or perhaps I should write something like that and make it part of BrainzStem so we don't have to go through this with any *brainz site we make :P

so, what colours were picked for the bookbrainz design? :)

thus far, none

at the moment it's unstyled HTML :P

heck, I _just_ added the functionality that will allow us to serve static files

(like, y'know, CSS)

heh

Thank you for your time

bookbrainz is progressing but thus far it's mostly been infrastructure work, thus :)

hmm. the metabrainz favicon has a music note in it.

kepstin-laptop: yes, I said you could send an rfv :P

hah

hmm. well, given the colours taken by the metabrainz and musicbrainz logos, you're left with having to use red and yellow.

rphill: the documentation on "how to make a proposal" is at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposals#Process_f...

kepstin-laptop: Thanks

kepstin-laptop: why not black and white? :p

reosarevok: well, at least use "graphite" and "parchment" ;)

so a dark grey-black, and a soft yellowish white.

you need some contrast against the black details on the brain logo ;)

hmm. someone should update the metabrainz.org site to use the new musicbrainz design :)

Add a ticket for it :p

it's been discussed

I think the idea is to make NGS have fewer bugs first

That sounds like a plan

well, also, for classic to go away and servers to get shuffled around

*coughBBcough*

hm?

Oh, nothing.

One more question.. not related to RFC's but to cancelled edits...

If I cancel an edit, does it remain the editing history for everyone to see, or just me because I'm logged in...

it stays there for everyone to see

OK

Thanks

ianmcorvidae: no, but still want to

ocharles: what do you think of the idea of integrating it with brainzstem or the like?

I'd like to make it non *brainz specific

it seems useful for anything that needs planning

that's fair

hi

is this acceptable? http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e0b5fd33-908b-...

Theoretically, I can't see why not

(although I would use "Anonymous" as the artist, not the SPA "[anonymous]"

The streaming relationship isn't supposed to be used for videos though (although I have done so once at least)

its the most mommon soruce for it

common

so I'll add another anonymous artist

okay?

I'd add it as Anonymous (capitalized, with no brackets) and maybe a comment saying "activist group" or whatever

well, to be specific this is the Anonymous associated with 4chan, right?

k

it's kind of funny that "Anonymous" refers to a specific group of people, some of whom are known :)

Awww http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1432651738/...

hmm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ignore_a... is kind of relevant to how people use musicbrainz.