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kepstin
honestly, I think it would probably make sense to just have this as a single-artist release under "Hellfish"
18:46 PM
with the appropriate ARs from the remixes to the original recordings, of course.
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Leftmost
Fair enough.
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reosarevok thought remixes were always supposed to be credited to the original artist? :/
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kepstin
reosarevok: so did I, until I couldn't find any guidelines for it.
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Leftmost
Well, I'm not totally convinced it's the Right Thing to do for all the tracks, but 2 and 10 perhaps.
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kepstin
it makes sense in most cases to do that
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Leftmost
What say you, reosarevok? 2 and 10 credited to original artists or to Hellfish alone? With ARs either way.
18:50 PM
kepstin
I think we need a guideline for artists on remixes :)
18:51 PM
maybe just leave the track artists as-is for now (but split Hellfish & Producer)
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Leftmost
Right. Splitting Hellfish & Producer and doing an AC for Alcore.
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kepstin
sure that's not just a typo, missing space? :)
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hmm. looks like he's used it other places as well.
18:53 PM
should be ok to credit as "Alcore"
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Leftmost
Aye, discogs shows a number of releases of his credited to Alcore.
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kepstin
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(that will also fix the recording artists and other releases)
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Leftmost
Alright. Putting in an edit to remove the current AR.
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kepstin
hmm. that's interesting; I didn't realize that "Hellfish & Producer" has a discogs page.
18:57 PM
now comes the question: is it a notable enough collaboration to have its own artist :)
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Leftmost
Personally, I wouldn't say a combined artist is justified for that sort of collaboration.
18:58 PM
Both are credited under their separate names, which to me gives it the sense of collaboration, as opposed to "group"
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Novarg
an extra inputbox to search for text in the current picard session (left and right side) would be awesome
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MBChatLogger
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reosarevok
19:13 PM
You can add Picard requests there
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Novarg
I thought I'd first drop a random though to hear opinions, like it already beign reported :)
19:13 PM
I'll ponder it a bit first
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thought*, man it's late
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reosarevok has no idea if it has been reported
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reosarevok
But there are not that many Picard bugs
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(we recently migrated to Jira)
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So you could easily check I guess :)
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Novarg
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reosarevok
For that, there is a ticket :p
19:16 PM
Because there's no single sign-in
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(the forum, for example, also requires a new registration)
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ianmcorvidae
and the code review site
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of course there's perhaps ten people that actually use _that_ one, but
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reosarevok
Hmmm
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kepstin, Leftmost: thinking about it, what about crediting the tracks to whatever the release says, crediting the recordings to the original artists?
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CatCat
remixes to original artst.. but i know mashups the mashuper
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but sometimes, oohh, sometiems peopel who more traditionally do amshups. when they do a remix of as ong, it's so differnt
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it's almost a shame to call it a "remix of so and so's track" and it's like it's own work
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but i still don't know though
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it feels wrong either way, idk
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like "artist x" as "whats on the cover"?
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yea i'd do that
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Novarg
In my opinion, the remixer is an artist as well and should be listed as such
19:46 PM
you can still note the original artist somewhere in the tags
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reosarevok
Well, the remixer *is* listed as remixer with a relationship
19:54 PM
CatCat
yes
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Leftmost
reosarevok, it's not clear in this case what the release says. :P But in general, I think if we're going to allow releases to show the remixer as the artist, then recording should show similarly, and have a link to the original recording.
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Jungar
hi
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reosarevok
hi
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Mustafa
hi
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anyone can help?
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reosarevok
Hi
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Maybe
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What's the issue?
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Mustafa
im a developer
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and im trying to get the track list in a release
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through xml
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so my question is: how can query a release
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and get its tracks
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luks
what do you have so far?
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21:37 PM
for example
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Mustafa
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which doesn't give me the tracks list
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what if i don't have the ID?
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luks
use the search query to get the ID
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ianmcorvidae
yeah, was gonna say, just do two queries: one to get the ID, one to get the info
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kepstin
you can't get the track list directly from the name, because there might be multiple releases with the same name, but different track lists.
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Mustafa
oh
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i see
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thank you guys
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Another question if you don't mind
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how can i query a release with its name and the artist name?
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is this possible?
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ianmcorvidae
I think you can use advanced search stuff in the query
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21:44 PM
something like ?query=releasename+artist:artistname, I think
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Mustafa
that worked, thank you!
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