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      • kepstin
        aww, 502 adding a url relationship :/
      • 2011-12-21 35528, 2011

      • kepstin
        ... again.
      • 2011-12-21 35509, 2011

      • kepstin tries again...
      • 2011-12-21 35527, 2011

      • kepstin
        502 again.
      • 2011-12-21 35545, 2011

      • kepstin
        I'm tempted to give up, but I really want that relationship on there.
      • 2011-12-21 35556, 2011

      • v6lur
        k, thanks
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • kepstin
        ... 502 again.
      • 2011-12-21 35541, 2011

      • brianfreud
        502
      • 2011-12-21 35506, 2011

      • v6lur
        too bad there are some 7 pairs of such songs :P
      • 2011-12-21 35522, 2011

      • v6lur
        but okay, 21 works it is then
      • 2011-12-21 35534, 2011

      • v6lur
        aww, 502...
      • 2011-12-21 35529, 2011

      • hawke_
        kepstin: regarding 'set track durations', it seems like it would complicate the UI unnecessarily to have to select which releases to set track durations on. What’s wrong with just setting the durations of the one you click “set track durations” for?
      • 2011-12-21 35523, 2011

      • brianfreud
        makes sense to me
      • 2011-12-21 35539, 2011

      • brianfreud
        what hawke_ said, that is
      • 2011-12-21 35505, 2011

      • v6lur
        returning to my earlier question: what if there never was a separate poem, and a later song just has the same lyrics to different music? does that merit a third work for just the lyrics?
      • 2011-12-21 35541, 2011

      • v6lur
        or should there just be an earliest version AR between the two songs, and different composer linked to each?
      • 2011-12-21 35533, 2011

      • nikki does the latter
      • 2011-12-21 35535, 2011

      • kepstin
        great, now I get a 502 on an isrc add edit
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • kepstin
        repeatable :/
      • 2011-12-21 35508, 2011

      • nikki got a 504 on beta
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • kepstin tries doing some other edits...
      • 2011-12-21 35520, 2011

      • drsaunde
        does anyone know what the problem is with all these 502s the last few days?
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • kepstin
        looks like no edits are working right now. 502s everywhere :/
      • 2011-12-21 35502, 2011

      • kepstin
        drsaunde: one theory is that modbot is breaking everything else while it runs
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • kepstin
        (which it's supposed to do at :10 after the hour, I think?)
      • 2011-12-21 35529, 2011

      • drsaunde
        modbot doesn't run 100 times a day though so there's something else
      • 2011-12-21 35500, 2011

      • kepstin
        drsaunde: no, only 24 times of day, for a couple minutes at around :10 after each hour
      • 2011-12-21 35509, 2011

      • kepstin
        which corresponds approximately to when I've seen them
      • 2011-12-21 35510, 2011

      • ruaok joined the channel
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      • nikki
        hi ruaok
      • 2011-12-21 35517, 2011

      • kepstin
        (e.g. everything is magically working again now)
      • 2011-12-21 35524, 2011

      • nikki
        I thought modbot ran on the hour
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • kepstin
        ruaok: you just missed another bout of 502s :)
      • 2011-12-21 35555, 2011

      • ruaok
        yep, thats modbot then.
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • hrglgrmpf
        502 while loading a page :-(
      • 2011-12-21 35540, 2011

      • ruaok sets an alarm for 40 minutes from now
      • 2011-12-21 35525, 2011

      • ruaok
        I'll be watching logs then. :)
      • 2011-12-21 35548, 2011

      • v6lur
        bitmap: is it just me or doesn't http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/104349 hide the ARs shown by the server itself?
      • 2011-12-21 35538, 2011

      • bitmap
        v6lur: I think I updated it once but then it broke again
      • 2011-12-21 35500, 2011

      • bitmap
        clicking on "Hide credits" should always hide the server ones though
      • 2011-12-21 35537, 2011

      • kepstin
        yeah, it's kind of pointless to have it hide the server ones now that the server supports hiding them itself :)
      • 2011-12-21 35546, 2011

      • v6lur
        what is this "hide credits" of which you speak... i can't seem to find it
      • 2011-12-21 35559, 2011

      • brianfreud
        Could I get a y-bomb on this edit? Trying to sort out a rather confusing work w/multiple official titles issue. :P http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15930297
      • 2011-12-21 35505, 2011

      • kepstin
        v6lur: hidden in the header of the tracklist table
      • 2011-12-21 35516, 2011

      • v6lur
        kepstin: well, server doesn't show everything... plus the script's indentation looks nicer to me
      • 2011-12-21 35517, 2011

      • bitmap
        it's in the top right of the header IIRC
      • 2011-12-21 35534, 2011

      • kepstin
        v6lur: I know... that's why I still use the script
      • 2011-12-21 35550, 2011

      • v6lur
        ooooh, and there it is! thanks
      • 2011-12-21 35501, 2011

      • bitmap
        basically identical to how Discogs does it :P
      • 2011-12-21 35514, 2011

      • Rondom joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        I'm ready.
      • 2011-12-21 35549, 2011

      • ruaok
        bring on 502s!
      • 2011-12-21 35501, 2011

      • kepstin
        they're not here yet, but soon ;)
      • 2011-12-21 35507, 2011

      • kepstin
        and here they are :)
      • 2011-12-21 35524, 2011

      • ruaok
        Request for http://musicbrainz.org/work/8bb5b46d-944e-3078-ae… took over 30 seconds. Killing process
      • 2011-12-21 35532, 2011

      • kepstin
        that was mine.
      • 2011-12-21 35552, 2011

      • kepstin tries again for fun
      • 2011-12-21 35507, 2011

      • ruaok
        Request for http://musicbrainz.org/release/1198de23-4c98-4684… took over 30 seconds. Killing process
      • 2011-12-21 35514, 2011

      • ruaok
        twice.
      • 2011-12-21 35528, 2011

      • kepstin
        should get another work/8b... one soon
      • 2011-12-21 35532, 2011

      • brianfreud
        odd, it loaded just fine here just now
      • 2011-12-21 35544, 2011

      • kepstin
        brianfreud: it's /submitting edits/ that's the issue.
      • 2011-12-21 35548, 2011

      • brianfreud
        ah
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • kepstin
        loading pages is generally fine.
      • 2011-12-21 35519, 2011

      • brianfreud missed the bring on 502s :P
      • 2011-12-21 35522, 2011

      • kepstin goes off to take a little break for 5 minutes, since none of the editing he's gonna do before then will work :/
      • 2011-12-21 35531, 2011

      • brianfreud
        and just when I have none queued up
      • 2011-12-21 35546, 2011

      • ruaok
        yeah, requests are timing out. thats all we know.
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • ruaok
        read: nothing new
      • 2011-12-21 35559, 2011

      • brianfreud
        nod
      • 2011-12-21 35506, 2011

      • brianfreud
        been getting them for days now myself too
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • kepstin
        so, you don't have anything to get a traceback to find out where it's hanging set up yet?
      • 2011-12-21 35520, 2011

      • kepstin
        based on the fact that I only see it when submitting edits, it's probably hanging when trying to write the the db?
      • 2011-12-21 35501, 2011

      • brianfreud
        502s on 1084fe62-7881-4c1d-8e59-324a1cabc7e1 and http://musicbrainz.org/work/1084fe62-7881-4c1d-8e… were me
      • 2011-12-21 35517, 2011

      • ruaok
        well, some reads are timing out too, so its not as simple as that.
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • ruaok
        but some DB contention would be my guess right now.
      • 2011-12-21 35546, 2011

      • ruaok
        right now we're not logging much DB output. I need to increase that.
      • 2011-12-21 35549, 2011

      • brianfreud
        I can say that I haven't yet had a 502 where I got the error, but the edit went in anyhow, unlike most other errors
      • 2011-12-21 35557, 2011

      • brianfreud
        and another one for ya ruaok :P
      • 2011-12-21 35552, 2011

      • ruaok
        feck. logging is totally turned off and will require a DB restart.
      • 2011-12-21 35541, 2011

      • destryalhmns joined the channel
      • 2011-12-21 35545, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        HEY
      • 2011-12-21 35548, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        everyone shut up
      • 2011-12-21 35559, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        what was that song on mtv, latish 90's
      • 2011-12-21 35513, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        something about the battle of "lost angeles"
      • 2011-12-21 35534, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        some guy talking, remember when you go down there tonight, the man next to you is your bother
      • 2011-12-21 35542, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        anyone know what im talking about?
      • 2011-12-21 35501, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        *brother
      • 2011-12-21 35527, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        nm i finally found it after like 15 years of trying to remember it
      • 2011-12-21 35546, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        thanks useless irc where 100 ppl are in a channel and no one ever says anything
      • 2011-12-21 35506, 2011

      • destryalhmns
      • 2011-12-21 35545, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        yesssssssssssssssss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So3gbmaDUuM&ob… YESSSSSSSSSS
      • 2011-12-21 35535, 2011

      • derwin
        destryalhmns : feel it.
      • 2011-12-21 35503, 2011

      • Vorpal joined the channel
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      • destryalhmns
        and the one major thing you have to remember tonight, when you go back to the woods or whether you stay here, is that the man next to you is your brother, and yo udamn well better treat each other Because if you dont, then we blow the whole thing
      • 2011-12-21 35522, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        i mean treat each other THAT WAY
      • 2011-12-21 35527, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        awesome song.... awesone
      • 2011-12-21 35530, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        m
      • 2011-12-21 35518, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        again only making sense???? OKAY...
      • 2011-12-21 35558, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        and the one major thing you have to remember tonight, when you go back to the woods or whether you stay here, is that the man next to you is your brother, and you damn well better treat each other that way, Because if you dont, then we blow the whole thing
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • destryalhmns feels it
      • 2011-12-21 35502, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        everyone is who they are for a reason.... even if that reason is just boring genetics
      • 2011-12-21 35526, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        christ all mighty, what is the sense in advertising yourself as having over 100 users if barely 1 person even talks?!!??!!
      • 2011-12-21 35531, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        oh sorry, im talking to myselff
      • 2011-12-21 35534, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        IRC IS DEAD
      • 2011-12-21 35541, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        TIME TO START SOMETHIGN THAT WORKS!!!
      • 2011-12-21 35514, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        wait wait
      • 2011-12-21 35516, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        shhhhhhhhhh
      • 2011-12-21 35520, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        someone is transcending time
      • 2011-12-21 35542, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        they will look at this channel 15 hours from now and comment, then leave
      • 2011-12-21 35554, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        this is not my thing
      • 2011-12-21 35527, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        can i please have op???
      • 2011-12-21 35537, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        my first order of business woudl be honesty
      • 2011-12-21 35505, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        and that means booting everyone but the person who gave me op and the two or three ppl i have seen making noise in the last hours
      • 2011-12-21 35508, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        irc is fucking useless
      • 2011-12-21 35512, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        time to look elsewhere
      • 2011-12-21 35521, 2011

      • destryalhmns
        GOODBYE USERS OF ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY
      • 2011-12-21 35506, 2011

      • jacobbrett
        WAIT! I was going to say somethi...
      • 2011-12-21 35546, 2011

      • hrglgrmpf
        jacobbrett: hehe, he will read the logs and come back at you :-)
      • 2011-12-21 35520, 2011

      • SultS
        I don't think that's his thing
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • drsaunde
        lmao
      • 2011-12-21 35517, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        that was an exciting 30 minutes.
      • 2011-12-21 35520, 2011

      • drsaunde
        he left too soon
      • 2011-12-21 35544, 2011

      • drsaunde
        Death in Vegas - Dirt
      • 2011-12-21 35550, 2011

      • drsaunde
        was the song he wanted
      • 2011-12-21 35519, 2011

      • kovacsur
        yeah, he found it.
      • 2011-12-21 35537, 2011

      • kepstin
        aww man, I go to make some edits and it's all 502 time again
      • 2011-12-21 35543, 2011

      • kepstin
        at least the user-agent rate limiting seems to be holding up :)
      • 2011-12-21 35554, 2011

      • STalKer-Y joined the channel
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      • dubwai joined the channel
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      • drsaunde
        at least now i know to expect the 502s between 05-15, that helps
      • 2011-12-21 35507, 2011

      • dubwai
        Iration Steppas Meet D. Rootical or "Iration Steppas meet D. Rootical"
      • 2011-12-21 35553, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        any perl'ers willing to give me a hand with something? I'm totally in over my head.
      • 2011-12-21 35543, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        VxJasonxV: no guarantees, but I can try (wouldn't exactly call myself a perl'er but maybe it happens to hit an area where I've worked)
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I assume this should be relatively easy.
      • 2011-12-21 35539, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I'm trying to use WWW::Mechanize to access a page. I've previously generated a cookie_jar that should include active session cookies for an authenticated instance, and the Mech object is setting the cookie jar.
      • 2011-12-21 35502, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        Do I have to do something specific to specify a cookie? Or should requests just use it during the HTTP communication?
      • 2011-12-21 35514, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        The page is acting like I'm not logged in, and I'm not sure why that is.
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
      • 2011-12-21 35551, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'm unfortunately not familiar with WWW::Mechanize specifically, but it should (I think?) just work that you initialize the Mechanize object with the relevant cookie jar
      • 2011-12-21 35537, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        Oh snap. I just did it.
      • 2011-12-21 35543, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        So, funny story;
      • 2011-12-21 35550, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, cool
      • 2011-12-21 35559, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        glad my lack of help worked :P
      • 2011-12-21 35515, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I was using HTTP::Cookies::Mozilla to load my cookie jar, then save it off to a file. Then loading that file via HTTP::cookies and using /that/ object in Mech
      • 2011-12-21 35543, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        I realized since I was no longer trying to load a classic "cookie jar" type file, and just needed an HTTP::Cookies object, that I could just use the object created by loading my mozilla cookies
      • 2011-12-21 35500, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        so I stripped out all the extra cruft, and *bam*, I can see the difference in the html output already, and no existence of "Sign In" (yay)
      • 2011-12-21 35506, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        yay!
      • 2011-12-21 35508, 2011

      • JoeLlama joined the channel
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      • VxJasonxV
        silly me