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      • reosarevok
        Normally, anyone who is not Amazon
      • 2011-12-25 35924, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (they suck at data)
      • 2011-12-25 35932, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But that sounds like enough doubt to check more info
      • 2011-12-25 35904, 2011

      • SultS
        I've never seen them been wrong on the import part
      • 2011-12-25 35913, 2011

      • SultS
        the label is also country X, if MB has this info correct
      • 2011-12-25 35926, 2011

      • nikki has seen them be wrong about imports
      • 2011-12-25 35929, 2011

      • SultS
        as I gather it was definetly made in country X
      • 2011-12-25 35935, 2011

      • nikki
        and the .fr one is apparently notorious for being wrong about imports
      • 2011-12-25 35908, 2011

      • SultS
        this one is .de vs. .uk
      • 2011-12-25 35931, 2011

      • kovacsur joined the channel
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      • SultS
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      • nikki
        it's not a uk barcode at least
      • 2011-12-25 35908, 2011

      • SultS
        yeah, it's german
      • 2011-12-25 35915, 2011

      • SultS
        everything else seems to be german
      • 2011-12-25 35922, 2011

      • nikki
        and the labels are german...
      • 2011-12-25 35950, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2011-12-25 35959, 2011

      • SultS
        so it's probably german.. :P
      • 2011-12-25 35905, 2011

      • reosarevok just identified the right http://musicbrainz.org/release/c44a1364-6cfe-44b0-be84-9965d080d34c (from a random FreeDB import)
      • 2011-12-25 35909, 2011

      • reosarevok is happy
      • 2011-12-25 35959, 2011

      • nikki
        and then the discogs pictures say printed in germany, it has GEMA (grr) on it and licensed to edel records gmbh
      • 2011-12-25 35906, 2011

      • nikki
        it just seems to be amazon that's confused :P
      • 2011-12-25 35936, 2011

      • SultS
        yeah, I'll go with that and correct the amazon urls
      • 2011-12-25 35918, 2011

      • SultS
        also, any opinions on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15956980 (one of multiple related edits on that release)
      • 2011-12-25 35940, 2011

      • nikki
        SultS: just because it has "inc" doesn't mean it's not a valid name
      • 2011-12-25 35959, 2011

      • nikki
        they do use that on a lot of releases in exactly the same place that you'd find normal label names
      • 2011-12-25 35904, 2011

      • nikki
        "normal" even
      • 2011-12-25 35945, 2011

      • v6lur joined the channel
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      • SultS
        but it's on the back cover that they are a manufacturer, that should still mean that sony is not the correct label to use there, I would think
      • 2011-12-25 35935, 2011

      • nikki
        they're also on the spine
      • 2011-12-25 35957, 2011

      • SultS
        as is Wind-up
      • 2011-12-25 35937, 2011

      • nikki
        I wouldn't vote no to adding that as another label
      • 2011-12-25 35928, 2011

      • SultS
        what about if disc only has Wind-up on it?
      • 2011-12-25 35932, 2011

      • SultS
        I have that image too
      • 2011-12-25 35949, 2011

      • CallerNo6 also looks at the cat# as part of determining "label", as in, "whose catalog does this seem to be part of?" ... but it's not an exact science
      • 2011-12-25 35951, 2011

      • kovacsur
        SultS: the EICP catalogue number is a SMJI one, so I'd keep SMJI for this label/cat# pair
      • 2011-12-25 35923, 2011

      • SultS
        in that case.. what about the catalog number edit, ignoring the label name?
      • 2011-12-25 35902, 2011

      • nikki enters separate catalogue numbers
      • 2011-12-25 35942, 2011

      • CallerNo6 reads slowly and types even slower
      • 2011-12-25 35902, 2011

      • CallerNo6 would add the "package" cat# for the release, and note the disc cat#s in an annotation ... the guideline that danbloo cites predates N
      • 2011-12-25 35910, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        er, "NGS"
      • 2011-12-25 35942, 2011

      • kovacsur
        The combined cat# seems to make more sense semantically
      • 2011-12-25 35916, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        exactly. and there's http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1735 hopefully in the works
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Not yet in the works
      • 2011-12-25 35945, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But let's hope they come
      • 2011-12-25 35925, 2011

      • SultS
        I cancelled that edit, but I would make a new edit for cat. no. then. I think combined cat. no. is still better as well. also voting for that ticket
      • 2011-12-25 35912, 2011

      • nikki wishes we stored standardised japanese catalogue numbers so she didn't have to do all sorts of horrible mangling to match our data with data she gathers from various japanese sites :(
      • 2011-12-25 35910, 2011

      • SultS
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      • hawke_ joined the channel
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      • SultS
        e-mail links to beta again -.-
      • 2011-12-25 35950, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        SultS: by "combined cat#" I was thinking EICP 670, which applies to the "release" rather than to the discs. I guess I'm not sure which one kovacsur meant.
      • 2011-12-25 35909, 2011

      • kovacsur
        CallerNo6: that's a completely different release.
      • 2011-12-25 35940, 2011

      • SultS
        yeah, different releases, 670 is 1 CD
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        I'm probably looking at the wrong tab again.
      • 2011-12-25 35906, 2011

      • SultS
        but 668~9 is also combined
      • 2011-12-25 35928, 2011

      • kovacsur
        This one has EICP 668~9 all over the packaging, EICP 668 on the CD, EICP 669 on the DVD
      • 2011-12-25 35936, 2011

      • kovacsur
        If I recall correctly.
      • 2011-12-25 35946, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        sorry. my mistake.
      • 2011-12-25 35951, 2011

      • SultS
        you are correct
      • 2011-12-25 35925, 2011

      • SultS
        I did add the disc cat#-s to annotation in any case
      • 2011-12-25 35908, 2011

      • kovacsur
        SultS: you linked the wrong image in the edit note by the way.
      • 2011-12-25 35934, 2011

      • kovacsur
        ...or am I looking at the wrong tab this time
      • 2011-12-25 35940, 2011

      • SultS
        you mean http://imgur.com/CWh8l ? it shows back cover
      • 2011-12-25 35904, 2011

      • kovacsur
        back cover of EICP 670
      • 2011-12-25 35918, 2011

      • SultS
        oops, indeed it does
      • 2011-12-25 35924, 2011

      • SultS
        lemme see
      • 2011-12-25 35939, 2011

      • SultS
        that means I *uploaded* wrong one as well
      • 2011-12-25 35946, 2011

      • hawke_
        luks: Any idea why http://acoustid.org/track/18c1f44b-ca2e-46db-855f… thinks the fingerprint is 8:39 in duration even though the file and the discID show the recording as 8:46?
      • 2011-12-25 35952, 2011

      • SultS
        kovacsur: I have to link to lower quality discogs then, but the correct number can still be made out
      • 2011-12-25 35906, 2011

      • kovacsur
        yes, I think it's legible
      • 2011-12-25 35908, 2011

      • kovacsur
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      • nikki
        you should link to the page with the images
      • 2011-12-25 35912, 2011

      • nikki
        direct links don't always work because they have a bunch of referrer blocking stuff
      • 2011-12-25 35928, 2011

      • SultS
      • 2011-12-25 35904, 2011

      • nikki was talking to kovacsur :)
      • 2011-12-25 35922, 2011

      • kovacsur
        I always link to the page in edit notes, too. :)
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • nikki
        good :)
      • 2011-12-25 35955, 2011

      • nikki
        ;_;
      • 2011-12-25 35906, 2011

      • nikki
        I still have 436 release groups tagged as containing 8cm cds
      • 2011-12-25 35919, 2011

      • nikki
        this is neverending...
      • 2011-12-25 35931, 2011

      • nikki
        it was 1003 releases before ngs, so I guess I'm half way there...
      • 2011-12-25 35909, 2011

      • hawke_
        Is that for ones that haven’t have their media type updated yet?
      • 2011-12-25 35914, 2011

      • nikki
        yep
      • 2011-12-25 35959, 2011

      • v6lur
        ummm... is the word for 'trinity' spelled with a capital in latin? ("Laudatio Trinitatis")
      • 2011-12-25 35916, 2011

      • v6lur
        i mean the christian trinity, of course, not neo's gf :P
      • 2011-12-25 35953, 2011

      • v6lur
        i started changing it to lowercase, but then suspected i might be wrong by doing so
      • 2011-12-25 35906, 2011

      • reosarevok
        No idea :(
      • 2011-12-25 35909, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I HATE FRATRES
      • 2011-12-25 35924, 2011

      • nikki
        fratres?
      • 2011-12-25 35929, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It's a nice piece, but were 10 arrangements of it really necessary?
      • 2011-12-25 35929, 2011

      • nikki read it as fritters
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      • v6lur joined the channel
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      • brianfreud joined the channel
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      • CallerNo6
        reosarevok: take a break from P�rt and help me with http://musicbrainz.org/release/735bcf72-b332-45af…
      • 2011-12-25 35949, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh no!
      • 2011-12-25 35907, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I can't break a-pärt!
      • 2011-12-25 35912, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (someone kill me)
      • 2011-12-25 35914, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        akkk
      • 2011-12-25 35944, 2011

      • CallerNo6
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      • CallerNo6
        I have no idea how to credit this
      • 2011-12-25 35952, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Why?
      • 2011-12-25 35904, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (well, I would change the Name, The to The Name)
      • 2011-12-25 35914, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        I don't know nuthin' 'bout mixes
      • 2011-12-25 35924, 2011

      • reosarevok
        In general, it looks OK
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Mixer / compiler as release artist, track artists as themselves
      • 2011-12-25 35952, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        it's that simple?
      • 2011-12-25 35949, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Tends to be
      • 2011-12-25 35913, 2011

      • reosarevok
        What doesn't seem clear is whether it is a real mix
      • 2011-12-25 35918, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Or just a compilation
      • 2011-12-25 35922, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        I'm assuming they're remixes based on the write-up on his site
      • 2011-12-25 35903, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        but maybe not
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      • reosarevok
        Discogs says the credit is "Compiled By – Paul D. Miller a.k.a. DJ Spooky*"
      • 2011-12-25 35901, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But sometimes people credit one thing and do the other
      • 2011-12-25 35908, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Just to be annoying
      • 2011-12-25 35948, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        yeah, saw that. hmm. amazon samples don't seem to be remixed. I'll keep listening and try to figure it out on my own (if there's anything to figure out)
      • 2011-12-25 35932, 2011

      • DarkerAudit joined the channel
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      • reosarevok
        YAY
      • 2011-12-25 35954, 2011

      • kovacsur
        One customer on Amazon says "In addition to the superlative remix album, a bonus album of unremixed reggae classics is included" but I can't find anything official
      • 2011-12-25 35910, 2011

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        I wonder if it would make sense to extend the "tribute" rel for works
      • 2011-12-25 35939, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Or add a "dedicated to" thing
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Dunno
      • 2011-12-25 35952, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Maybe it is just my data hoarding mentality
      • 2011-12-25 35956, 2011

      • FroMaster
        How would I modify this string to omit the track number if there isn't one? [%artist%] - $num(%tracknumber%,2) - %title%
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      • kovacsur
        my guess would be [%artist%] - $if(%tracknumber%,$num(%tracknumber%,2) - )%title%
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      • hawke_
        yup
      • 2011-12-25 35919, 2011

      • FroMaster
        kovacsur: Thanks. That worked!
      • 2011-12-25 35929, 2011

      • kovacsur
        You're welcome.
      • 2011-12-25 35959, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou joined the channel
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      • reosarevok
        Hi voiceinsideyou!
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Back from beer and beach?
      • 2011-12-25 35937, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou
        hey reo; yup :) still haven't had the gall to go through the hundreds of MB emails yet ;-)
      • 2011-12-25 35932, 2011

      • reosarevok shakes his fist at fjutt, whoever (s)he is
      • 2011-12-25 35941, 2011

      • reosarevok
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/74cf6c98-ae64-4c58… scared me from the recordings list!
      • 2011-12-25 35900, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Thankfully once in the release it is easy to do the work linking...
      • 2011-12-25 35929, 2011

      • reosarevok
        6 pages done, 9 to go
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      • nikki
        hey voiceinsideyou
      • 2011-12-25 35948, 2011

      • reosarevok
        On to page 8!
      • 2011-12-25 35937, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Heh
      • 2011-12-25 35940, 2011

      • reosarevok
        CSG overkill
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        (the work is in one movement)
      • 2011-12-25 35932, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        that's awesomerness
      • 2011-12-25 35933, 2011

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      • CallerNo6
        but it /totally/ shows how scared people are of "classical"
      • 2011-12-25 35912, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2011-12-25 35918, 2011

      • reosarevok
        bitmap, are you around? :)
      • 2011-12-25 35919, 2011

      • reosarevok wants a "relate checked works to new parent work with this title" script for the work list :p
      • 2011-12-25 35924, 2011

      • reosarevok
        10!
      • 2011-12-25 35936, 2011

      • jacobbrett
        Ergh..."An error occured while communicating with MusicBrainz: HTTP Error 503:" using libmusicbrainz2
      • 2011-12-25 35912, 2011

      • nikki guesses it doesn't set a ua?