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        • 2012-01-07 00703, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah

        • 2012-01-07 00707, 2012

      • kyomi
        But I assume I'll have to go back and tag all the releases again? Or can I just tag the artist and be done with it?

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • hawke_1
        You can tag artists too, but I’m not sure if Picard will use the artist tags

        • 2012-01-07 00731, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I think it doesn’t.

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hawke_1: isn't there some easy way to read tags and submit them via ws?

        • 2012-01-07 00755, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I know the MB Android app submits tags via ws, so it's clearly possible

        • 2012-01-07 00701, 2012

      • kyomi
        what is webservice?

        • 2012-01-07 00706, 2012

      • kyomi
        the website?

        • 2012-01-07 00710, 2012

      • hawke_1
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/XML_Web_Service/Versi…

        • 2012-01-07 00722, 2012

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: It’s possible, dunno about 'easy'

        • 2012-01-07 00738, 2012

      • hawke_1
        it's relatively easy if you have a good way to interact with the webservice, I guess

        • 2012-01-07 00753, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It could be useful if someone developed an easy way to do this maybe?

        • 2012-01-07 00703, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (as we keep complaining that there are not enough users setting tags :P)

        • 2012-01-07 00724, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: Yet another thing that would be great in a MB-enabled player, or a plugin for another player

        • 2012-01-07 00759, 2012

      • kyomi
        Yeah, I was just going to ask about that.. how do you access the webservice?

        • 2012-01-07 00711, 2012

      • SultS
        goddammit what a mess http://musicbrainz.org/recording/186dbb80-2221-4f…

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • kyomi
        It looks like I have to create a program that does it or install some other language

        • 2012-01-07 00730, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS: doesn't look like a total mess?

        • 2012-01-07 00738, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Just one wrong recording, right?

        • 2012-01-07 00741, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Should be an easy fix

        • 2012-01-07 00758, 2012

      • SultS
        well it’s higjacked by wrong song

        • 2012-01-07 00700, 2012

      • SultS
        high*

        • 2012-01-07 00701, 2012

      • hawke_1
        kyomi: yep, you do.

        • 2012-01-07 00702, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, technically, just one correct one :p

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • kyomi
        bah... thats more work then just creating a java program to do it here

        • 2012-01-07 00728, 2012

      • SultS
        I guess it’s easier to create new one to the original

        • 2012-01-07 00730, 2012

      • hawke_1
        kyomi: Well, you can do it manually with a web browser and command-line tools like wget

        • 2012-01-07 00749, 2012

      • hawke_1
        but yeah, it would be more work than just doing it for yourself. :-)

        • 2012-01-07 00756, 2012

      • reosarevok
        kyomi, https://github.com/jdamcd/musicbrainz-android

        • 2012-01-07 00758, 2012

      • kyomi
        I'll let that be for now

        • 2012-01-07 00703, 2012

      • hawke_1
        though if you wrote a tool that everyone could use… ;-)

        • 2012-01-07 00712, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That should have a way to submit them

        • 2012-01-07 00715, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So if you can reuse that code

        • 2012-01-07 00723, 2012

      • kyomi
        just make my own java program that takes the folder the artist is in and sets the genre tag to that

        • 2012-01-07 00724, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe you can only do the half that reads them

        • 2012-01-07 00741, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Actually, I'm fairly sure there's a program which does that where you could take code from too, heh

        • 2012-01-07 00745, 2012

      • kyomi
        Because thats all I really want

        • 2012-01-07 00746, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and just merge the two things)

        • 2012-01-07 00717, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS: it's definitely easier

        • 2012-01-07 00726, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Although it's not really *that many* fixes to be done

        • 2012-01-07 00747, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS: especially if you use the script that lets you just give it an MBID in the recordings page

        • 2012-01-07 00709, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok: hmm.. true

        • 2012-01-07 00713, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/112431 in case you don't have it

        • 2012-01-07 00714, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I’m out, ttyl

        • 2012-01-07 00718, 2012

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        • 2012-01-07 00719, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Bye!

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • SultS
        I might try it

        • 2012-01-07 00733, 2012

      • kyomi
        brain food needs to stop d/cing :p

        • 2012-01-07 00712, 2012

      • Munger
        Has anyone ever created a torrent for MusicBrainz NGS 2011-07-20.ova ?

        • 2012-01-07 00734, 2012

      • kyomi
        what is it?

        • 2012-01-07 00749, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The virtual machine?

        • 2012-01-07 00752, 2012

      • reosarevok
        A data dump?

        • 2012-01-07 00753, 2012

      • Munger
        Yes

        • 2012-01-07 00757, 2012

      • Munger
        the VM

        • 2012-01-07 00759, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, I doubt it

        • 2012-01-07 00701, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But not sure

        • 2012-01-07 00711, 2012

      • kyomi
        theres a MB VM?

        • 2012-01-07 00714, 2012

      • reosarevok
        There is

        • 2012-01-07 00719, 2012

      • kyomi
        thats... umm.. odd..

        • 2012-01-07 00724, 2012

      • Munger
        kyomi, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Server_Setup

        • 2012-01-07 00733, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess they'll make a new one after the schema change next week though

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, actually using MBID doesn’t help much, because I would be either selecting some random recording for that song, or create for each of them a new recording

        • 2012-01-07 00755, 2012

      • kovacsur
        SultS, that messup is apparently the product of this merge: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15459208

        • 2012-01-07 00701, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS, just create one recording for all of them?

        • 2012-01-07 00705, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I mean

        • 2012-01-07 00709, 2012

      • reosarevok
        One recording

        • 2012-01-07 00712, 2012

      • Munger
        Just seems to me that a torrent would help save a bit of bandwidth

        • 2012-01-07 00712, 2012

      • kyomi
        isn't that i"p"config?

        • 2012-01-07 00714, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And then use that for all the rest

        • 2012-01-07 00733, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, that’s not an autoedit for me :P

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Doesn't have to be

        • 2012-01-07 00750, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Add it as a standalone recording first

        • 2012-01-07 00756, 2012

      • SultS
        ah

        • 2012-01-07 00757, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That gives you a MBID automatically

        • 2012-01-07 00702, 2012

      • SultS
        good idea

        • 2012-01-07 00704, 2012

      • Mineo
        kyomi: ipconfig is the one on windows

        • 2012-01-07 00715, 2012

      • kyomi
        Tagging Dance/trance/electronica is a pain SultS :p

        • 2012-01-07 00738, 2012

      • SultS
        kyomi: I know :P but someone’s gotta do it :P

        • 2012-01-07 00739, 2012

      • kyomi
        So what is that? your own personal MB?

        • 2012-01-07 00747, 2012

      • reosarevok
        kyomi, mostly, yes

        • 2012-01-07 00755, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Useful if you want to a) develop code for MB

        • 2012-01-07 00703, 2012

      • reosarevok
        b) avoid rate limiting

        • 2012-01-07 00705, 2012

      • kyomi
        Ahh.. and that was my next question

        • 2012-01-07 00713, 2012

      • kyomi
        rate limiting?

        • 2012-01-07 00724, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You can make only a certain amount of calls to MB

        • 2012-01-07 00728, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (1 per second was it?)

        • 2012-01-07 00738, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If you run it yourself, you set a limit yourself :p

        • 2012-01-07 00748, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Munger, are you asking because you're planning to contribute some code?

        • 2012-01-07 00751, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Or just curious?

        • 2012-01-07 00703, 2012

      • kyomi
        Ahh.. thats probably why when I'm debugging my epguides.com program it suddenly stops connecting to the website >.>

        • 2012-01-07 00711, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Most likely

        • 2012-01-07 00735, 2012

      • kyomi
        Pretty much though that... I started making a cache...... started >.>;

        • 2012-01-07 00749, 2012

      • Munger
        reosarevok, A bit of both. I want to have a sniff around the code first to see if I can contribute anything .... I'm not a great fan of perl

        • 2012-01-07 00700, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Munger, there's a fair share of JS

        • 2012-01-07 00704, 2012

      • kyomi
        I still need to find out how threads and progress bars work in java :(

        • 2012-01-07 00733, 2012

      • MBChatLogger
        http://rika.musicbrainz.org

        • 2012-01-07 00733, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Also, with rika.mb.org you might not even have to download the VM

        • 2012-01-07 00741, 2012

      • Munger
        reosarevok, Good. I've ben brushing up on my html5 too :-)

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • reosarevok wonders if the plan for it is documented anywhere

        • 2012-01-07 00758, 2012

      • kyomi
        hmm... rika

        • 2012-01-07 00711, 2012

      • kyomi pokes MBChatLogger.... do it :P

        • 2012-01-07 00738, 2012

      • kyomi
        the website doesn't exist apparently.. at least not user accessable

        • 2012-01-07 00741, 2012

      • Munger
        http://rika.musicbrainz.org is dead for me

        • 2012-01-07 00742, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Not yet :)

        • 2012-01-07 00745, 2012

      • kyomi
        -sible*

        • 2012-01-07 00702, 2012

      • kyomi
        YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

        • 2012-01-07 00704, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It will be an user machine where people can have their own MB-thing for developing

        • 2012-01-07 00721, 2012

      • kyomi
        reosarevok: Ahh.. kinda like the MS virtual labs?

        • 2012-01-07 00722, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's still being set up - ianmcorvidae will admin it so ask him for doubts not me :)

        • 2012-01-07 00755, 2012

      • kyomi
        still need to finish that to get my server 2008 cert

        • 2012-01-07 00704, 2012

      • Munger
        reosarevok, Sounds good, but I kinda want a local server too. My crappy internet really slows me down

        • 2012-01-07 00727, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • reosarevok would suggest paying for a better internet will give you better life quality than fighting MB hell

        • 2012-01-07 00751, 2012

      • Munger
        Isn't there a UK mirror for MB? I thought I read somewhere that last.fm were going to host one

        • 2012-01-07 00708, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I think they did for a while but didn't prove too useful

        • 2012-01-07 00727, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Main word being "think"

        • 2012-01-07 00731, 2012

      • Munger
        reosarevok, I'm not averse to paying for it. But I would have to move house to get away from this pesky copper wire

        • 2012-01-07 00754, 2012

      • kyomi
        Don't use wireless? :)

        • 2012-01-07 00727, 2012

      • reosarevok wonders if Munger lives in the ghetto or in a village :)

        • 2012-01-07 00729, 2012

      • kyomi
        I still really don't like wireless and would rather a wired connection if at all possible... faster anyway

        • 2012-01-07 00735, 2012

      • kyomi
        ghetto village!

        • 2012-01-07 00737, 2012

      • kyomi
        >.>;

        • 2012-01-07 00751, 2012

      • Munger
        I don't. We don't get fibre around here until next year. I'm 4 miles from the exchange and only get < 3.5 Mb/s

        • 2012-01-07 00701, 2012

      • kyomi wonders if Munger's first nick is "fish"

        • 2012-01-07 00714, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, next year is still better than nothing I guess

        • 2012-01-07 00724, 2012

      • kyomi
        It is next year :/

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • reosarevok
        that gives you a year to start liking perl!

        • 2012-01-07 00726, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :D

        • 2012-01-07 00743, 2012

      • Munger wonders if kyomi can spell 'monger' :-p

        • 2012-01-07 00749, 2012

      • kyomi
        I know :P

        • 2012-01-07 00702, 2012

      • kyomi
        It was a stretch but it made me giggle ^^;

        • 2012-01-07 00713, 2012

      • Munger
        rhymes with 'plunger'

        • 2012-01-07 00730, 2012

      • kyomi
        Still kinda sounds the same :)

        • 2012-01-07 00731, 2012

      • SultS
        yay, wasn’t that hard after all :P http://musicbrainz.org/recording/186dbb80-2221-4f…

        • 2012-01-07 00756, 2012

      • kyomi
        SultS: looks like a middle finger now XD

        • 2012-01-07 00700, 2012

      • murdos
        lol, 2011/12, bots enter in the editing game: http://beta.musicbrainz.org/statistics/timeline/m…

        • 2012-01-07 00706, 2012

      • reosarevok almost didn't notice the obvious "go approve it all now"

        • 2012-01-07 00708, 2012

      • SultS
        lol

        • 2012-01-07 00727, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, me?

        • 2012-01-07 00728, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Theeere, approved

        • 2012-01-07 00737, 2012

      • kovacsur
        aww, I didn't get to vote

        • 2012-01-07 00754, 2012

      • reosarevok
        murdos, isn't it AWESOME? ;)

        • 2012-01-07 00740, 2012

      • SultS
        that wasn’t me asking for votes or approvals, as it wasn’t urgent in any way :P

        • 2012-01-07 00747, 2012

      • SultS
        but thanks

        • 2012-01-07 00702, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Wrong data is always urgent!!!! :D

        • 2012-01-07 00725, 2012

      • kyomi
        Umm.. Eisbrecher has the wrong data :D

        • 2012-01-07 00734, 2012

      • kyomi
        >.>

        • 2012-01-07 00742, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p